Oregon -American Patriots put the Will of the People First

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  1. Luddly Neddite
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    Can you understand the difference between a protest and an armed occupation?

    They already get tax subsidized land but they want it for free - at the tax payer's expense. And, taking guns instead of toilet paper means they're willing to kill.

    That's domestic terrorism.
     
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    remember when some folks were calling for snipers to take out BLM protesters?

    is there some sort of double standard going on here...? hmmm :eusa_think:
     
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    the actual "will of the people" fyi is called RULE OF LAW :thup:
     
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    even the staunch federalist understands how delusional these armed thugs are.


    "Bundy isn’t upholding state sovereignty—he’s upholding his own personal conception of state sovereignty."


    The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
     
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    From an email --

    Ammon Bundy told CNN this:

    I want to emphasis that the American people are wondering why they can't seem to get ahead or why everything is costing more and you are getting less, and that is because the federal government is taking and using the land and resources.

    Do these wack-a-doodle doos ever think before they speak?

    Poor put upon Ammon didn't always hate the gub't. In 2010, he got a $530K loan from the feds.
     
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    Those who agree with and support these wackadoodles should git their pop guns and load up the pickemup with malomars and TP and git on up there.

    C'mon peeps - put yer money where yer mouth is.

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    So far out the last two OP's you have posted on this subject...You have perverted the real reason why this is occurring....
    Iron fist?
    They were tried and convicted, they have legal remedies to their case...as of yet they have not taken those routes.... So now you claim that playing armed rebellion will help with a supposed tyrannical govt. which if it was would have already rooted the rebellion out with bloodshed...
    something is rotten in the state of Denmark...
     
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    Brian Levin, an attorney and criminologist, said the overall risk posed by anti-government groups is growing. Levin, who directs the nonpartisan Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, said it was a "material change" that the militants in Oregon have moved from "mere rhetoric to action, and from action to forceful action."

    "This is a significant milestone because we’re seeing now a coalescence of a grassroots organization, which is responding to events and trying to influence them through show of force," Levin said. "We’re seeing aggressive and criminal conduct to make this point."

    The groups tend to lack central direction, sophisticated organization and recruiting networks. Some aren't groups at all, but loners or partnerships. That can make them less of an overall threat than Salafi jihadist groups like ISIS and al-Shabaab, Levin said.

    Patriot groups "don’t have the organization or hierarchical power that say, ISIS does," Levin said. "Are they terrorists? As a technical matter, yes. But on the same hand, they’re not ISIS, and nor should our response to them" be the same.

    Much like in the 2014 standoff at the Bundy ranch, federal officials in Oregon have thus far declined to take the bait by challenging the militants' "kill and be killed" stance.

    Levin, who described himself as third-generation law enforcement, said the "less is more" approach to handling the militants will avoid opportunity for martyrdom or further notoriety.

    "When things go south, the first question is always, 'Why didn’t you wait?'" Levin said. "A court order is still valid, and can be executed at a time and place of the government’s convenience. And no one gets killed. And we haven’t given these extremists fodder for their own recruitment efforts."

    While a threat exists as long as the militants remain armed, Levin noted federal officials can afford to give the occupants room, since they effectively "put themselves in their own jail" by holing up in a remote and empty building with few snacks.

    "Do you want to eat frozen Spam over a half-lit fire in a desolate tundra? Knockyourself out," Levin said. "It’s not like they occupied a resort in Maui.”
     
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    These Oregon folks, even though engaged in criminal activity, are not vicious as the Bundyville Alumanutty Brigade.
     

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