Opportunity in Somalia After Killing of Qaeda Militant

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    Opportunity in Somalia After Killing of Qaeda Militant

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/14/world/africa/14somalia.html?ref=africa
     
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    And you are correct, Sunni Man! The problem in Somalia stems, to a greater degree, from discontent with US propped government!

    High_Gravity, your picture is very colorful. I hope troop shown are veterans, seeing most are grey-headed.
     
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    I assume they are taking whoever they can get right now in Somalia.
     
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    The killing of this guy ain't going to make an ounce of difference.

    The western backed puppet President is full of hot air. :doubt:
     
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    I want things in Somalia to get better but I have to agree with you guys, the killing of one man is not going to automatically turn Somalia into a successful democracy, hell I doubt they will even turn a corner.
     
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    Somalia is an enigma inside of a riddle that even Somali's can't figure out.

    The mosque I attend is about 50% somali

    So I know what I am talking about.


    To Somali's the tribe/clan/sub clan is everything.

    Every tribe/clan has age old friends and enemies.

    So tribes/clans that are aligned with Al Shabab are doing so to align against their enemy tribes.


    Ideology has little influence in their alliances.

    Plus, all tribes dislike/hate the government.

    Except the tribe/clan to which the current President is a member.

    They will support him and the government.


    Somalia is now divided into 3 distinct territories.

    Puntland is the northern 3rd that wants to form their own country and has a very robust economy.

    Somali Land which is the southern 3rd and also want's to break away and form their own country is doing well also.

    And in the center is Somali and the city of Mogudishu. Where the western backed government is located. This is the poverty and war racked area that is always shown on the Western media.

    Each of these 3 areas have distinct tribal/clan loyalties that no government will ever be able to subdue.


    Now add the centuries old xenophobia that is the essence of Somali culture.

    And the various warlords who run the tribes/clans/sub clans


    Even King Soloman couldn't navigate thru the maze known as Somalia :eek:
     
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    Somalia is indeed a strange puzzle, reminds me of the Afghanistan of Africa. At what point Somalia did have a functioning government under a Military leader, I don't know what happened but he was over thrown. Since you around Somalis alot what do you think? do the Somalis want to stay unified? do they want to be broken up in separate countries? do you think there is anything the US or international community can do differently?
     
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    The U.S. government has a hard on for Somalia since the Black Hawk Down days.

    The somali people could work out their differences if the West would leave them alone.

    Like I said; Puntland in the north and Somali land in the south are economically doing very well.

    And are not having fighting and conflicts like the center section called Somalia.

    The center section is where the Western backed puppet government is located.

    And this is were all of the fighting is taking place.

    Because the somali people hate outside influences and foreign soldiers on their land.

    We support African Union and Etiopion soldiers who keep invading Somali on our behalf.

    And I assume that you are aware that we still bomb parts of Somalia on a regular basis?
     
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    I know there are drone strikes in Somalia like we do in Yemen and Pakistan however I don't know when the last one was, so you think if the US and the West just cut Somalia off, everything would improve? the US Military hasn't been in Somalia since 1993 and they are still struggling. You think it would be better to let Puntland and Somaliland separate?
     
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    That is BULLShIT!
     

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