Only Four (4) Presidents In The Last Century Have Won 50% of The Vote Twice

[Sallow]

Indeed

even Blacks in the US owned slaves,...

Oh gosh, really?

All of a sudden the "exception" becomes the "rule"?

 

[Sallow]

Actually, the concept of Negative Liberties is a leftist idea

It bothers the Left that the Constitution only tells the gov't what it can't do
The Left would prefer if it was more like leftist constitutions and told the gov't
what it was suppose to do

The Founding Fathers understood that with each power one gives the gov't
more power is lost by the individual and that is a bad thing.

Again..it's you folks that are trying to take away liberties from people.

The Bush years are stark reminders of that.

As are Republican States.

 

[Neotrotsky]

The gov't giving people things is not Liberty
At best, it is a "deal with the devil"

I hear you
like the same Bush powers that Papa Obama
kept and has even increased

For example, Papa Obama has quadrupled warrantless wiretaps

 

[Neotrotsky]

Indeed

even Blacks in the US owned slaves,...

Oh gosh, really?

All of a sudden the "exception" becomes the "rule"?

Not at all

Just another leftist talking point becomes
even more weak

 

[Sallow]

The gov't giving people things is not Liberty
At best, it is a "deal with the devil"

I hear you
like the same Bush powers that Papa Obama
kept and has even increased

For example, Papa Obama has quadrupled warrantless wiretaps

Presidents don't give up power.

Book that.

 

[Neotrotsky]

nor gov'ts in general
Book that...

which is why the US is on a malignant path
to real liberties over the last 100 years

 

[MarcATL]

Obama is the first president in our history whose margin of victory for reelection was smaller than his first one.

Indeed, his margin of victory dropped by over 60% and he lost many demographic groups that he won handily the first time around.

For example, Romney handily beat Obama among every income group except the bottom two: the poor and lower middle income ($0 to $25K and $25K to $50K). Romney won soundly among voters who earn $50K or more, i.e., the middle class, the affluent, the rich, and the super rich ($50K-$99K, $100K-$199K, $200K-$249K, $250K and above). Romney's margins of victory in those groups were 6%, 10%, 5%, and 13% respectively.

Romney also carried independents by a margin of 5%, 50% to 45%.

On the other hand, Obama soundly beat Romney among high school dropouts, winning that sad demographic by nearly 2 to 1 (64% to 35%). By the way, those uneducated voters accounted for about 3% of all votes cast, so we're not talking about some insignificant number. By any measure, a group that makes up 2-3% of the electorate is important, especially when the election is decided by less than 3%.

If low-income and lower-middle-income voters had not gone so overwhelmingly for Obama--63% to 35% and 57% to 42%--Romney would have won.

So, in a very real sense, one can say that Obama owes his victory to the two bottom income groups and high school dropouts, the two least-successful demographic groups among us.

The gov't giving people things is not Liberty
At best, it is a "deal with the devil"

I hear you
like the same Bush powers that Papa Obama
kept and has even increased

For example, Papa Obama has quadrupled warrantless wiretaps

Presidents don't give up power.

Book that.

Damn right.

The righties want to pretend to be outraged by Obama using these powers when they sat silently while Bush DEVELOPED and INITIATED these powers.

No RWers, it doesn't work that way.

But brought it on the stage, they're here to stay.

As Steffy Weffy says....ENJOY!!

 

[Neotrotsky]

Compared to the "lefties" who are Now comfortable with it....
but were not before

I am not outraged at all
National security is one of the few areas that
the Federal gov't should be doing
Assuming that is what the wiretaps are for...


I am just pointing out the lefts' hypocrisy
under Bush, this was one of their most dear causes

But like military deaths in Afghanistan that have gone up
under Papa Obama, more than Bush
the left does not care anymore

 

[MarcATL]

Compared to the "lefties" who are Now comfortable with it....
but were not before

I am not outraged at all
National security is one of the few areas that
the Federal gov't should be doing
Assuming that is what the wiretaps are for...


I am just pointing out the lefts' hypocrisy
under Bush, this was one of their most dear causes

But like military deaths in Afghanistan that have gone up
under Papa Obama, more than Bush
the left does not care anymore

We still don't like it.
We realize that once a power has been established it's next to impossible to go under any President.
That's why we were so gung-ho to stop in the FIRST place under Bush, but we failed thanks to you guys and your complacency for any and everything that scoundrel did.
And yes, we feel safer with those powers in the hands of someone like President Obama, which explains the lack of major outcry.
You have no leg to stand on, as you and your side ushered those powers in.
Cut it out.

 

[Neotrotsky]

So abuse of power and/or a overreach of gov't power is
OK as long as the Left approves of the person

Your argument is specious,
but no doubt it helps you sleep at night

Funny, to most rational people, it appears
that Bush might have been right about the wiretaps
and the Left was wrong in the first place.

 

[Meathead]

Compared to the "lefties" who are Now comfortable with it....
but were not before

I am not outraged at all
National security is one of the few areas that
the Federal gov't should be doing
Assuming that is what the wiretaps are for...


I am just pointing out the lefts' hypocrisy
under Bush, this was one of their most dear causes

But like military deaths in Afghanistan that have gone up
under Papa Obama, more than Bush
the left does not care anymore

We still don't like it.
We realize that once a power has been established it's next to impossible to go under any President.
That's why we were so gung-ho to stop in the FIRST place under Bush, but we failed thanks to you guys and your complacency for any and everything that scoundrel did.
And yes, we feel safer with those powers in the hands of someone like President Obama, which explains the lack of major outcry.
You have no leg to stand on, as you and your side ushered those powers in.
Cut it out.

Selective righteous indignation rings hollow and hypocrisy is a very lousy excuse. The value of human lives, be that of Iraqis, Afganis or Americans seems to have tumbled since Obama took office.

 

[Neotrotsky]

It is OK

they are comfortable with it because Papa Obama is doing it now

 

[Rozman]

Wow, I didn't know that. Far out. Obama is in good company except for that asshole Reagan.

My sentiments exactly.

No matter WHAT these Republicans say...Obama has secured his place in history as one of THEE best Presidents and Politicians in US history. Bar-none. Period. Full stop.

Amen! Time for Obama to be on Mt. Rushmore.

You really can't be serious about this.....

 

[Neotrotsky]

My sentiments exactly.

No matter WHAT these Republicans say...Obama has secured his place in history as one of THEE best Presidents and Politicians in US history. Bar-none. Period. Full stop.

Amen! Time for Obama to be on Mt. Rushmore.

You really can't be serious about this.....

They are,,,,
They are just waiting for China to give us the money,,,

 

[Stephanie]

My sentiments exactly.

No matter WHAT these Republicans say...Obama has secured his place in history as one of THEE best Presidents and Politicians in US history. Bar-none. Period. Full stop.

Amen! Time for Obama to be on Mt. Rushmore.

You really can't be serious about this.....

that's how his cult members think...like I said, 8% unemployment and record setting people on food stamps should secure him a spot there..

 

[Rozman]

Obama on Mt.Rushmore....

Way too fuckin funny....
I'm gonna be laughing about this for a while...

 

[Stephanie]

Obama on Mt.Rushmore....

Way too fuckin funny....
I'm gonna be laughing about this for a while...

now you see how Obama won with his record..very sad

 

[Neotrotsky]

Obama on Mt.Rushmore....

Way too fuckin funny....
I'm gonna be laughing about this for a while...

now you see how Obama won with his record..very sad

Expect even more...Leftist regimes tend to do/seek more glorification
of their leaders as life worsens under them in order to prop them up.

Papa Obama’s next term will start to see the effects of his 'bag of goods'....
health-care reform, Dodd-Frank, etc
....barely known to the public

In Obama’s case, to hide their effects and help in securing reelection,
he has back loaded most of his controversial changes into a second term.

Indeed, one should always be careful what they wish for....
In the words of Papa Obama's ex pastor of 20 years
"The chickens are coming home to roost"

 

[Rozman]

I don't know weather to laugh or cry...
To those republicans who sat this one out are you guys pleased with your choice now?
We get someone who should not have been elected with the job he's done.
And we have idiots in this country that not only voted for him but want to put him up on
Mt.Rushmore....

You can't make this crap up...

 

[Neotrotsky]

It is sad how far left and extreme the Democratic party has gone in 50 years

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