Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide...

[8537]

Bullshit, non sequiter. Government does NOT use tax codes to promote on line sales.

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

 

[8537]

The fools are the ones who think there's going to be any significant change to a tax code that lets politicians reward friends, punish enemies, tinker and social engineer to their hearts content.

Yet here you sit, supporting a tax code that lets politicians reward one business over another, tinkering with the tax code to engineer a preference for online sales.

Leaving people alone is not "preferential treatment"...What's so difficult to grasp about that simple concept?

Yes, it is. You are giving preference to one business by requiring other businesses to collect a tax.

The fact that you work so hard to deny this painfully obvious fact is hilarious.

 

[The Rabbi]

Did you read the story and discover that it's the BIG RETAILERS that are in favor of this?

Sheeeeesh!

So what? They are right. People are engaged in massive tax cheating. That needs to stop.

So, your disingenuous mewling about mom and pop stores was just a prop to try and make the point that gubmint has a "right" to drill our wallets....How very leftist of you.

BTW, everyone is entirely within their rights to avoid taxes...There's no "cheating" about it.

That isn't avoiding taxes. Avoiding taxes is taking a deduction you're entitled to. This is tax cheating, not paying a tax you are obligated under the law to pay.

 

[paulitician]

The fools are the ones who think there's going to be any significant change to a tax code that lets politicians reward friends, punish enemies, tinker and social engineer to their hearts content.

Yet here you sit, supporting a tax code that lets politicians reward one business over another, tinkering with the tax code to engineer a preference for online sales.

Leaving people alone is not "preferential treatment"...What's so difficult to grasp about that simple concept?

Big Brother Bootlickers. You're not gonna get anywhere with them. Nice effort though.

 

[Oddball]

So what? They are right. People are engaged in massive tax cheating. That needs to stop.

So, your disingenuous mewling about mom and pop stores was just a prop to try and make the point that gubmint has a "right" to drill our wallets....How very leftist of you.

BTW, everyone is entirely within their rights to avoid taxes...There's no "cheating" about it.

That isn't avoiding taxes. Avoiding taxes is taking a deduction you're entitled to. This is tax cheating, not paying a tax you are obligated under the law to pay.

Everyone es completely entitled to shop in one state that has no taxes on clothing and bring their purchases to a state that does tax clothes....People from Wisconsin cross the border into Minnesota to do so every day of the week.

You have NFI what you're talking about...Gubmint is not entitled to my money.

 

[paulitician]

Socialists/Progressives pushing more Big Brother oppression is very predictable. It's very sad, but predictable. But even more sad, is so-called 'Conservative Republicans' pushing it. The Republican Party is breaking apart. True Conservatives are finding it harder & harder to remain in the Party.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

It's not a gospel of envy. It's a gospel of the law. You believe in the law, dont you?

 

[eflatminor]

Bullshit, non sequiter. Government does NOT use tax codes to promote on line sales.

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Similarly, online operations are required to collect sales tax for the state in which they are domiciled.

There is no policy promoting one operation over the other. In either case (online or brick and mortar), the person buying the product is required to pay the sales tax in the proper state where the retailer is not required to collect the tax.

 

[Full-Auto]

Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide

So the plan is to force our future purchases overseas.

Ok if thats the way they want it.

 

[Oddball]

Bullshit, non sequiter. Government does NOT use tax codes to promote on line sales.

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Similarly, online operations are required to collect sales tax for the state in which they are domiciled.

There is no policy promoting one operation over the other. In either case (online or brick and mortar), the person buying the product is required to pay the sales tax in the proper state where the retailer is not required to collect the tax.

Apparently, very few people know this.

 

[The Rabbi]

Bullshit, non sequiter. Government does NOT use tax codes to promote on line sales.

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Similarly, online operations are required to collect sales tax for the state in which they are domiciled.

There is no policy promoting one operation over the other. In either case (online or brick and mortar), the person buying the product is required to pay the sales tax in the proper state where the retailer is not required to collect the tax.

Yes, and thats the problem because there is no enforcement mechanism for the state with onlne sales. That allows people to cheat on taxes, which is unfair.

 

[8537]

Bullshit, non sequiter. Government does NOT use tax codes to promote on line sales.

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Oh really now? So when someone from NH walks into my store in Vermont I don't have to charge them sales tax? I'll be sure to let everyone know.

 

[Oddball]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

It's not a gospel of envy. It's a gospel of the law. You believe in the law, dont you?

Apparently, you know nothing of the law.

There's noting illegal, immoral or fattening about avoiding taxation.

 

[Murf76]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

 

[eflatminor]

Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide

So the plan is to force our future purchases overseas.

Ok if thats the way they want it.

Yep. Yet another unintended consequence of big government meddling. China must love the Progressives.

 

[Oddball]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

Because shopping across state lines is a perfectly legitimate way to avoid taxes....People do it all the time in person, how are internet sales any different?

 

[Full-Auto]

Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

Read More:
Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide

So the plan is to force our future purchases overseas.

Ok if thats the way they want it.

Yep. Yet another unintended consequence of big government meddling. China must love the Progressives.

With two big government parties. Decision making on who to support becomes difficult.

 

[eflatminor]

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Oh really now? So when someone from NH walks into my store in Vermont I don't have to charge them sales tax? I'll be sure to let everyone know.

Not if you ship that product to their New Hampshire residence. Wow, you really are ignorant for a guy that says he owns a retail establishment.

 

[eflatminor]

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Similarly, online operations are required to collect sales tax for the state in which they are domiciled.

There is no policy promoting one operation over the other. In either case (online or brick and mortar), the person buying the product is required to pay the sales tax in the proper state where the retailer is not required to collect the tax.

Yes, and thats the problem because there is no enforcement mechanism for the state with onlne sales. That allows people to cheat on taxes, which is unfair.

What do you mean by "state with online sales"? States don't sell anything, businesses do.

 

[paulitician]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

Your whole argument for more Taxes is based on the gospel of Envy. And it's very disappointing hearing so-called Conservatives preaching that stuff. That's for Socialists/Progressives. We're better than that.