Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide...

Is it wrong for the government to pick winners and losers?

Or it is ok, as long as you are personally benefiting.

The state government is granting an advantage to online retailers.

And it is an advantage against interest, as the advantage only goes to online retailers with no locations within the borders of the state.

So the state is incentivising exporting capital instead promoting local purchasing as a form of reinvestment and losing the growth and associated revenue.

That is not a wise economic policy...therefore, I do not oppose ending it.
 
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Never thought i'd see the day when people who call themselves 'Conservatives', would be whining and pushing for more Taxes. Man, what happened to the Republican Party? How did they allow these phony Conservative stiffs to take over the Party? It's so damn sad.
What's amusingly pathetic is the protection racketeers trying to reframe freedom as "preferential treatment" and "unfairness".

And the band played on......
 
What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law? :eusa_eh:
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.
Because shopping across state lines is a perfectly legitimate way to avoid taxes....People do it all the time in person, how are internet sales any different?

Hey... I'm all for avoiding taxation when possible, particularly in light of how wasteful our government, both federal and state have become. But when I look at it from the small retailer's POV, I just can't see how it's fair to ask them to collect taxes, but not the online guys.

I believe that some online sales are taxed by the states. There are often caveats that if the goods will be delivered within the state in which the business is based, then state sales tax is levied. Right now, they don't levy state tax for orders sent out-of-state. I see where that practice makes it fairer for the local businesses. What I'd hate to see is the Feds hopping on what they view as a gravy train and start levying federal taxes on internet sales. At that time, we will have a de facto national sales tax and I doubt it would be long before we'd start paying fed taxes on local purchases, as well.
 
Is it wrong for the government to pick winners and losers?

Or it is ok, as long as you are personally benefiting.

The state government is granting an advantage to online retailers.

And it is an advantage against interest, as the advantage only goes to online retailers out of state.

So the state is incentivising exporting capital instead promoting local purchasing as a form of reinvestment and losing the growth and associated revenue.

That is not a wise economic policy...therefore, I do not oppose ending it.
Taxation only picks you as the loser and gubmint as the winner.
 
Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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I really don't get what this has to do with politics.

I always did think being taxed for on line buying was inevitable.
 
Is it wrong for the government to pick winners and losers?

Or it is ok, as long as you are personally benefiting.

The state government is granting an advantage to online retailers.

And it is an advantage against interest, as the advantage only goes to online retailers with no locations within the borders of the state.

So the state is incentivising exporting capital instead promoting local purchasing as a form of reinvestment and losing the growth and associated revenue.

That is not a wise economic policy...therefore, I do not oppose ending it.

Out of state? Hell! Try out of country! An online retailer can be set up completely out of the country with only a minor presence in the states.

And since Pauli is in favour of this, I guess that means he's in favour of outsourcing.

Willard would be proud.
 
Pauli believes in the Law of Pauli. Nothing more.

You cheerleading for this, proves my point better than i ever could. The gospel of Envy is what you're all about.

Out of curiosity, since you and other "conservatives" hate the poor, can we say you have a Gospel of Hatred? Or would you prefer Gospel of Arrogance?

Since this fabrication is just that.

Why do you hate Americans with that enterprising spirit?
 
Never thought i'd see the day when people who call themselves 'Conservatives', would be whining and pushing for more Taxes. Man, what happened to the Republican Party? How did they allow these phony Conservative stiffs to take over the Party? It's so damn sad.
What's amusingly pathetic is the protection racketeers trying to reframe freedom as "preferential treatment" and "unfairness".

And the band played on......

So sad. Whining and pushing for more Taxes? And these people call themselves 'Conservatives'? These idiots are the reason why many will sit this Election out. The Republican Party is the Democrat Party at this point. No real differences.
 
Did you read the story and discover that it's the BIG RETAILERS that are in favor of this?

Sheeeeesh!

Well,sure. They get to collect a nice chunk of change and make some short term investments until the tax man comes a-calling.
 
Did you read the story and discover that it's the BIG RETAILERS that are in favor of this?

Sheeeeesh!

Well,sure. They get to collect a nice chunk of change and make some short term investments until the tax man comes a-calling.
And they can more readily absorb the additional accounting costs, that will push out of business the smaller retailers who cannot.

Higher taxes and more regulations favor the big bidness over the small.
 
Did you read the story and discover that it's the BIG RETAILERS that are in favor of this?

Sheeeeesh!

Well,sure. They get to collect a nice chunk of change and make some short term investments until the tax man comes a-calling.
And they can more readily absorb the additional accounting costs, that will push out of business the smaller retailers who cannot.

Higher taxes and more regulations favor the big bidness over the small.

That too.
 
The fools are the ones who think there's going to be any significant change to a tax code that lets politicians reward friends, punish enemies, tinker and social engineer to their hearts content.
Yet here you sit, supporting a tax code that lets politicians reward one business over another, tinkering with the tax code to engineer a preference for online sales.
Leaving people alone is not "preferential treatment"...What's so difficult to grasp about that simple concept?

Leaving only some people alone is preferrential treatment.
 
Et tu, Brute? Et tu?

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of Envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Sir Winston Churchill

Those pushing this who call themselves 'Conservatives', really should read this quote over & over & over again. You've lost your way. Time to get back on track. A true Conservative would never support this.
 
Yet here you sit, supporting a tax code that lets politicians reward one business over another, tinkering with the tax code to engineer a preference for online sales.
Leaving people alone is not "preferential treatment"...What's so difficult to grasp about that simple concept?

Leaving only some people alone is preferrential treatment.
That's the ethos of the protection racketeer, Bubba.
 
Et tu, Brute? Et tu?

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of Envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Sir Winston Churchill

Those pushing this who call themselves 'Conservatives', really should read this quote over & over & over again. You've lost your way. Time to get back on track. A true Conservative would never support this.

Maybe they just realize that you can balance a budget by raising revenue instead of cutting medical care for single moms.
 
As every socialist twit understands higher taxes on internet transactions will increase business activity, spur economic growth and increase prosperity

Lets tax the hell out of it, for fairness and the consumer !!!
 
Hey... I'm all for avoiding taxation when possible, particularly in light of how wasteful our government, both federal and state have become. But when I look at it from the small retailer's POV, I just can't see how it's fair to ask them to collect taxes, but not the online guys.
It's the small online retailers who stand the most to lose here.

Big online retailers like Amazon can absorb the additional costs of the requisite added accounting, which will push the small operators with smaller margins out of business.

And yet small brick and mortar businesses must absorb these costs...

Why should the tax system give an advantage to the small online business over the small brick and mortar business?
 
Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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...as the advantage only goes to online retailers with no locations within the borders of the state.

How exactly do online retailers have an advantage? Please be specific.

Keep in mind, as has been stated previously, that tax requirements are EXACTLY THE SAME for brick&mortar as they are for online retailers. If you sell a product to a customer out of the state in which your retail establishment is domiciled and ship that product to the customer, it's the customer's responsibility to pay the tax in the state in which he lives. This is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar. Similarly, if a retailer sells a product to a customer in the same state in which the retailer is domiciled, the retailer must collect the state tax. Again, this is true for any kind of retailer, online or brick&mortar.

So I ask again, how exactly do online retailers have an advantage?
 
Screwed by the phony Conservatives and Socialists/Progressives again.


Small companies who want to sell their products online are in real trouble. Some Republican governors, eager to enrich their thinning state coffers, are endorsing a tax that would be imposed on products sold online.According to the National Conference of State Legislatures Strapped, states could reap as much as $23 billion in new annual revenue.

Bigger chains are happy with the move. Scott Mason, a vice president at Lowe's Cos, who noted that Lowe’s has a 5 percent to 10 percent price disadvantage compared with online rivals, exclaimed, "Having one of the most recognized and widely popular Republican leaders take this position gives other politicians comfort that the online sales tax is fair and helps state budgets in crisis.”

Until recently, consumers could purchase items online without paying sales tax, a strategy that enabled consumers to shop at local stores but then order the same products online so they could avoid the sales tax. In order to level the playing field, there has been a push to tax the online purchases so local business owners could compete.

The giant Amazon.com, which initially viewed with disfavor the idea of a sales tax, has decided that they now like the idea. Why? Because Amazon plans to offer same-day delivery, which will mean it needs more local warehouses, and it will then get hit by state taxes anyway.

Small online competitors are upset. Steve DelBianco, executive director of NetChoice, a trade group representing eBay, Overstock.com and others, said, "Besides the Republican support, this position change is being driven by the millions of dollars being spent by the big-box retailers—and now Amazon—to push the sales tax through Congress."

States that already have an online sales tax are Kansas, Kentucky, North Dakota, New York, Texas and Washington. Other state that are planning to join them are California (Sept. 2012), Indiana (Jan. 2014), Nevada (Jan. 2014), New Jersey (July 2013), South Carolina (Jan. 2016),Tennessee (Jan 2014) and Virginia (Sept 2013)...

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