Online Purchases Soon To Be Taxed Nationwide...

[gallantwarrior]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

Personally, I shop locally whenever I can, and at smaller local places rather than the big-box places. But there are things that are not available locally that I can get online. (Ain't the internet great!) Even those suppliers tend to be smaller businesses. Now, in addition to increasing costs of shipping, I'll have to cough up taxes, too?
Government needs to realize that taxes are not the answer to their woes. Government needs to make a reasoned analysis of their expenses and start doing the difficult and unpopular trimming of the fat.

 

[DontBeStupid]

This would not in any way "level the playing field" but it would destroy online sales, which would have to include state taxes as well as shipping charges. Amazon might survive but you can say bye bye to countless smaller online operations.

It won't destroy it. People don't shop online purely to save a few bucks. The ease of it is what attracts most people.

Most people make buying decision not based on cost but convenience...got it.

Do you by any chance work for the government?

It can be cheaper to make dinner than buy fast food, yet people still go to McDonald's.

But hey, keep telling yourself price is literally the only criteria.

 

[tjvh]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

Brick and Mortar stores have the option of selling their goods online, it's called Free Enterprise. If your business fails because you aren't keeping up with what works, such is the unfairness that is life.

So the government should be using the tax code to incentivize online sales?

OK then tv. You keep preaching free markets and supporting government efforts to make them less balanced. Nice effort.

Not at all, I think Government should stay the hell out of the way, and let businesses succeed, or fail... Whichever the market dictates.

 

[paulitician]

Why should brick and mortar stores be at a competitive disadvantage and online retailers get preferential treatment from the government?

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

It's not a gospel of envy. It's a gospel of the law. You believe in the law, dont you?

Your argument for more Taxes really is very disappointing. And to play the old Socialist/Progressive Envy-Card, makes it so much worse. Your Conservative cred is shot.

 

[eflatminor]

It won't destroy it. People don't shop online purely to save a few bucks. The ease of it is what attracts most people.

Most people make buying decision not based on cost but convenience...got it.

Do you by any chance work for the government?

It can be cheaper to make dinner than buy fast food, yet people still go to McDonald's.

But hey, keep telling yourself price is literally the only criteria.

Another bullshit response. I never stated nor implied cost was "literally the only criteria". You did.

You also stated that convenience is the motivator for "most people". I call bullshit on that. Cost is the motivator for most people...unless of course you work for government in which case, cost is someone else's concern. I ask again, do you work for a government?

 

[Murf76]

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

Because shopping across state lines is a perfectly legitimate way to avoid taxes....People do it all the time in person, how are internet sales any different?

Hey... I'm all for avoiding taxation when possible, particularly in light of how wasteful our government, both federal and state have become. But when I look at it from the small retailer's POV, I just can't see how it's fair to ask them to collect taxes, but not the online guys.

 

[tjvh]

Oh really? then why are only online businesses allowed to make a sale without collecting sales tax?

You don't think that policy promotes online sales?

False! Brick and mortar business are NOT required to collect sales tax for out-of-state transactions.

Similarly, online operations are required to collect sales tax for the state in which they are domiciled.

There is no policy promoting one operation over the other. In either case (online or brick and mortar), the person buying the product is required to pay the sales tax in the proper state where the retailer is not required to collect the tax.

Yes, and thats the problem because there is no enforcement mechanism for the state with onlne sales. That allows people to cheat on taxes, which is unfair.

Yes... New York State Tax returns provide a line for you to simply "by the goodness of your heart" fill in the amount of your online purchases. That works.

 

[tjvh]

It won't destroy it. People don't shop online purely to save a few bucks. The ease of it is what attracts most people.

Most people make buying decision not based on cost but convenience...got it.

Do you by any chance work for the government?

It can be cheaper to make dinner than buy fast food, yet people still go to McDonald's.

But hey, keep telling yourself price is literally the only criteria.

Laziness is the criteria.

 

[eflatminor]

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

Because shopping across state lines is a perfectly legitimate way to avoid taxes....People do it all the time in person, how are internet sales any different?

Hey... I'm all for avoiding taxation when possible, particularly in light of how wasteful our government, both federal and state have become. But when I look at it from the small retailer's POV, I just can't see how it's fair to ask them to collect taxes, but not the online guys.

You're missing the facts. Brick & Mortar retailers do NOT have to collect sales tax for anything they ship out of state. Same goes for online retailers. In addition, online retailers must collect state sales tax for items sold to customers in the state in which the retailer is domiciled. Same goes for brick & mortar retailers. It's perfectly fair as it is.

 

[Murf76]

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

Your whole argument for more Taxes is based on the gospel of Envy. And it's very disappointing hearing so-called Conservatives preaching that stuff. That's for Socialists/Progressives. We're better than that.

Well, by all means... explain it to me then. From the small brick-and-mortar's perspective, how is it fair for government to make them collect sales tax under penalty of law, but not require it of the online guys? I've got to go out, but I'll be interested to see your reasoning on that.

 

[Oddball]

Well, by all means... explain it to me then. From the small brick-and-mortar's perspective, how is it fair for government to make them collect sales tax under penalty of law, but not require it of the online guys? I've got to go out, but I'll be interested to see your reasoning on that.

How is it fair that people cross the border from Wisconsin to Minnesota to buy clothing that has no sales tax levied upon it?

Methinks you're buying into the phony socialist/progressive meme that taxation is about fairness.

 

[DontBeStupid]

More gospel of Envy. But i expect it from Socialist/Progressive wingnuts like you. But to hear it preached by so-called 'Conservatives' is very disappointing.

It's not a gospel of envy. It's a gospel of the law. You believe in the law, dont you?

Your argument for more Taxes really is very disappointing. And to play the old Socialist/Progressive Envy-Card, makes it so much worse. Your Conservative cred is shot.

Pauli believes in the Law of Pauli. Nothing more.

 

[paulitician]

What's not "conservative" about applying equal treatment under the law?
The brick-and-mortars don't have a choice about charging sales tax, why should their competitors? If we look at it from their point of view, they're being penalized unfairly.

So yeah, small online retailers have to compete with large ones. But small brick-and-mortars have to compete with not only their larger physical counterparts, but the online ones, both large and small, as well. These poor guys are bottom feeding. Seems only fair that everyone plays by the same rules.

Your whole argument for more Taxes is based on the gospel of Envy. And it's very disappointing hearing so-called Conservatives preaching that stuff. That's for Socialists/Progressives. We're better than that.

Well, by all means... explain it to me then. From the small brick-and-mortar's perspective, how is it fair for government to make them collect sales tax under penalty of law, but not require it of the online guys? I've got to go out, but I'll be interested to see your reasoning on that.

Evolve and change with the times. Sell more of your products online. Creating more Taxes based on the gospel of Envy, is not something a true Conservative should stand for. That stuff is for Socialist/Progressive Democrats. We Conservatives, should rise above that.

 

[Oddball]

Hey... I'm all for avoiding taxation when possible, particularly in light of how wasteful our government, both federal and state have become. But when I look at it from the small retailer's POV, I just can't see how it's fair to ask them to collect taxes, but not the online guys.

It's the small online retailers who stand the most to lose here.

Big online retailers like Amazon can absorb the additional costs of the requisite added accounting, which will push the small operators with smaller margins out of business.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Most people make buying decision not based on cost but convenience...got it.

Do you by any chance work for the government?

It can be cheaper to make dinner than buy fast food, yet people still go to McDonald's.

But hey, keep telling yourself price is literally the only criteria.

Laziness is the criteria.

Bingo.

 

[paulitician]

It's not a gospel of envy. It's a gospel of the law. You believe in the law, dont you?

Your argument for more Taxes really is very disappointing. And to play the old Socialist/Progressive Envy-Card, makes it so much worse. Your Conservative cred is shot.

Pauli believes in the Law of Pauli. Nothing more.

You cheerleading for this, proves my point better than i ever could. The gospel of Envy is what you're all about.

 

[eflatminor]

It's not a gospel of envy. It's a gospel of the law. You believe in the law, dont you?

Your argument for more Taxes really is very disappointing. And to play the old Socialist/Progressive Envy-Card, makes it so much worse. Your Conservative cred is shot.

Pauli believes in the Law of Pauli. Nothing more.

Another leftist that's just sure he knows what's in the heart of other men. Impressive. Sadly, I possess no such insight.

 

[paulitician]

Never thought i'd see the day when people who call themselves 'Conservatives', would be whining and pushing for more Taxes. Man, what happened to the Republican Party? How did they allow these phony Conservative stiffs to take over the Party? It's so damn sad.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Your argument for more Taxes really is very disappointing. And to play the old Socialist/Progressive Envy-Card, makes it so much worse. Your Conservative cred is shot.

Pauli believes in the Law of Pauli. Nothing more.

Another leftist that's just sure he knows what's in the heart of other men. Impressive. Sadly, I possess no such insight.

It's easy to know what's in the hearts of men. All you have to do is listen.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Your argument for more Taxes really is very disappointing. And to play the old Socialist/Progressive Envy-Card, makes it so much worse. Your Conservative cred is shot.

Pauli believes in the Law of Pauli. Nothing more.

You cheerleading for this, proves my point better than i ever could. The gospel of Envy is what you're all about.

Out of curiosity, since you and other "conservatives" hate the poor, can we say you have a Gospel of Hatred? Or would you prefer Gospel of Arrogance?