One of the Lies Behind fdr's Concentration Camps

[TNHarley]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

He was the President. Lets be REAL, ok?

 

[JakeStarkey]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

Those are certainly all yours.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Republican governor of California demanded FDR issue orders.

So did his top military advisers.

But the far right does like them sum dictator.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The Republican governor of California demanded FDR issue orders.

So did his top military advisers.

But the far right does like them sum dictator.

Link?

 

[Penelope]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

He was the President. Lets be REAL, ok?

All presidents do what the military generals suggest. He made the call , but it was a call most likely anyone in his position would of made.

 

[Syriusly]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

"Gutting the military"

See here is the thing about you anti-FDR nutjobs. There are legitimate issues to attack FDR for- but then you just go all stupid, and reflect that it isn't really about FDR- it is because you dislike his policies.

After World War 1, the United States underwent a rapid demilitarization. In the 1930's, after Roosevelt came to power, there was at first a gradual build up the United States military- and then a rush starting in 1939 as Roosevelt(often at odds with Congress) pushed to build our military up to deal with the increasing threat from Germany, Italy and Japan.

WWII: Mobilization

And Japan didn't attack the United States because they thought our military was too weak- it was the other way around.

 

[Camp]

The Rape of Nanking was real and preceded Pearl Harbor. Japanese atrocities being committed against Americans at the time of the internments are legendary. The murder, torture and enslavement of Americans in the Philippines was going on during that period. Does the term "Bataan Death March" mean anything? And less than one month after the internment camps began, Japan invaded and occupied Alaskan islands specifically for the purpose of establishing bases to be used for attacking the west coast of America.
Historical events have to be put in perspective of the culture and circumstances of the era they occur. American was in danger and under threat. The guy in charge decided not to take any chances or gamble with America's security. The result was that no acts of sabotage were successfully conducted on the west coast during the Japanese internment period.

 

[Weatherman2020]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

He was the President. Lets be REAL, ok?

All presidents do what the military generals suggest. He made the call , but it was a call most likely anyone in his position would of made.

All Presidents do what the military suggests!?

What else you going to pull out of your ass today?

 

[Syriusly]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

He was the President. Lets be REAL, ok?

All presidents do what the military generals suggest. He made the call , but it was a call most likely anyone in his position would of made.

Yes- but it was the wrong call.

Not only is it appropriate to look at the issue honestly- it is important to keep that in mind when people start talking about the threat dejure- and putting them in camps- whether it is Mexicans or Muslims.

The United States finally apologized for our actions under Ronald Reagan- and it was the right thing to do- a country should acknowledge its mistakes. We are among the rare countries that has.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

6500 German citizens were still held in 1946. Remind me how many Japanese were held that long?

 

[Weatherman2020]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

"Gutting the military"

See here is the thing about you anti-FDR nutjobs. There are legitimate issues to attack FDR for- but then you just go all stupid, and reflect that it isn't really about FDR- it is because you dislike his policies.

After World War 1, the United States underwent a rapid demilitarization. In the 1930's, after Roosevelt came to power, there was at first a gradual build up the United States military- and then a rush starting in 1939 as Roosevelt(often at odds with Congress) pushed to build our military up to deal with the increasing threat from Germany, Italy and Japan.

WWII: Mobilization

And Japan didn't attack the United States because they thought our military was too weak- it was the other way around.

Fact remains FDR left our military so decimated three nations felt comfortable enough to declare war on us.
And stop trying to blame the Democrat controlled Congress for his actions.

 

[Unkotare]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

Don't forget the Tuskegee experiments, prolonging the Great Depression, or violating his wedding vows with great regularity.

 

[Unkotare]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

6500 German citizens were still held in 1946. Remind me how many Japanese were held that long?

Held on charges, not for simply being of German ancestry or having a certain physical appearance.

 

[Unkotare]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

Bullshit. He had the information.

I know but he went with the head military people (some of who were racist and filled with hatred) and well the non Japanese public fear of Japanese people, which was as we now know was unwarranted even at the time.

Then why weren't all those of Japanese ancestry on Hawaii thrown into fdr's CONCENTRATION CAMPS?

 

[Syriusly]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

"Gutting the military"

See here is the thing about you anti-FDR nutjobs. There are legitimate issues to attack FDR for- but then you just go all stupid, and reflect that it isn't really about FDR- it is because you dislike his policies.

After World War 1, the United States underwent a rapid demilitarization. In the 1930's, after Roosevelt came to power, there was at first a gradual build up the United States military- and then a rush starting in 1939 as Roosevelt(often at odds with Congress) pushed to build our military up to deal with the increasing threat from Germany, Italy and Japan.

WWII: Mobilization

And Japan didn't attack the United States because they thought our military was too weak- it was the other way around.

Fact remains FDR left our military so decimated three nations felt comfortable enough to declare war on us.
And stop trying to blame the Democrat controlled Congress for his actions.

Stop pulling crap out of your ass and calling it honey.

The fact is that FDR led the United States to the largest expansion of the military in our history- despite the isolationist attitude of much of the United States.

The fact is that our military in December 1941 was the largest it had been since the end of World War 1. Perhaps the most stupid thing Hitler ever did was declare war on the United States- without that FDR would have been hard pressed to assist Europe in defeating Hitler- but he did- and because of American intervention, Hitler was defeated in the West.

 

[Unkotare]

FDR’s Solicitor General Withheld Evidence in Japanese Internment Cases

 

[Syriusly]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

Don't forget the Tuskegee experiments, prolonging the Great Depression, or violating his wedding vows with great regularity.

'Tuskegee experiments'?

I know you just have a hard on for FDR but why bother to lie about him when you are correct about the Japanese Internement camps.

The Tuskegee experiments went from 1932- the year before Roosevelt was President- until 1972- 20 odd years after he died. Certainly a blemish on the United States but FDR did not initiate them, or participate in them in any way other than the experiments happened under his administration as it did under Truman's and Eisenhower's.

'prolonging the Great Depression' There are some who make that claim. There is no disputing though that FDR did lead the country out of the Great Depression.

'infidelity'- We have a leading GOP candidate who is on his third wife and cheated on his previous wives. FDR was no better- or worse- when it comes to faithfulness than many of our Presidents.

 

[Unkotare]

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The Tuskegee experiments went from 1932- the year before Roosevelt was President- until 1972- 20 odd years after he died. Certainly a blemish on the United States but FDR did not initiate them, or participate in them in any way other than the experiments happened under his administration as it did under Truman's and Eisenhower's.......

Did they, or did they not, take place during the entirety of his time in office?

 

[Unkotare]

...... There is no disputing though that FDR did lead the country out of the Great Depression........

Of course there is disputing of it. He made it worse, longer, and did NOT end it. The end of WWII ended the Great Depression, not that irresponsible, arrogant scumbag fdr.

 

[Unkotare]

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'infidelity'- We have a leading GOP candidate who is on his third wife and cheated on his previous wives. FDR was no better- or worse- when it comes to faithfulness than many of our Presidents.

Is this the "everyone else did it!" excuse? Really? Try it the next time you are pulled over for speeding.