alpine
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No, the reason of the crash was NOT socialismYup, and this is another socialist country with empty shelves
Ops, shit, sorry, this is capitalist Greece...
People who have never left their comfort bubble, commenting on the events around the world,
entertaining for sure....
Capitalist Greece you say?
Didn't they just elect a socialist...
Oh well...
Yes, the key word is "just" in your message,
which means "after the fact"
Hope makes sense...
No, actually the crisis too, was the fault of socialism. It should ring a bell that it was a government debt crisis...
It is funny thought that they elect socialists to fix the mess. That never works... and now we see the results.
Social policies, which you claim makes a country socialist, exist in all major EU countries, and they dont crash do they?
In fact, Germany for instance, with all her social policies, even more extreme compared to Greece at times, is doing pretty dam good...
So, if it is not socialism, nor capitalism was the cause of this crash in Greece, what was it???
The answer to this question is simple;
CORRUPTION!!!
The Myth of the Bloated Greek State
What you are saying is logically impossible. If the Greece Government had zero debt.... they would not have crashed. It's like saying you have have your house foreclosed on... when you don't have a mortgage.
If you don't have a mortgage, it is fundamentally impossible to have your home foreclosed on.
Similarly, the crash can only have occurred because government spent more money than it collected in taxes. And that is a function of socialism. Are you suggesting that government is a Capitalist venture? I think not.
Moreover, your article cites a dozen different things... but they all support our original claim.
For example, they list off that the Agricultural Bank of Greece, gave out $5.5 Billion in bad loans to people connected with government.
So government, gave money from government banks, to government supporters. And that's not a socialism problem? What do you call that? How do you label a system created, run, and broken by government, a problem with Capitalism?
I love how the idiot in your article labels this "Bad private loans".... FROM GOVERNMENT BANKS YOU IDIOT!
Or they mention that 30% of the economy is untaxed, and hidden underground. Well no crap, the taxes are way too high. No one is going to pay that much in taxes. That's a problem with socialism, not private sector or capitalism.
He then complains of the "A restricted market". Who restricts the market? If GM wants to prevent me from building cars, they can't do jack. Only the government can stop me from building cars. So who restricted the market in Greece? Government. That's socialism, not Capitalism.
Pensions have also been a major expense, more due to demographics and early retirements than systematically generous outlays.Pension system is a product of socialism. Not capitalism.
Greek revenue never kept up with expenditure.Almost like he read my posts.
Pensions for early retirees now burden state budgets disproportionately.Bloated Greek Government "no no it's a myth! But they have a burden of massive pensions for retired government employees".... Well what the crap do you call a bloated government???
That is a bloated government! When you have so much in pension payments, that you sink the entire country, that's a bloated government. You people twist the words a hundred different ways to try and hide the truth.
Corruption and Socialism go hand in hand. The fact is, without socialist policies and socialist government programs, there would never have been a crash of the entire country, no matter how much corruption there was in the government.
Check the list I have up there.
Germany, France, UK, Greece.....
All EU states have a debt, and pretty close to each other
So; Greece crashed because of socialism
Why Germany not crashing?
Germany is capitalist? or socialist?
Well, that means it is not socialism nor capitalism that would crash a state
Aristotelian logic, been around for thousands of years.......
But this is not your fault, you have been fed the same bs in the mainstream media for a long time.
I don't expect much out of you anyways.....