On May 8th, Germany had so much renewable energy...

[Muhammed]

One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source.

That is a very ignorant statement.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

Hey Marty, don't come in here with all your fancy shmancy oil and gas accounting crap. This is a feel good post about saving the planet from money hungry multinational oil giants. Why do you have to piss on it with a bunch of facts that only people in the real world care about?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Now if you could only get a 24 hour sunny day with 20 MPH winds, everything would be unicorn farts and pixie queefs.

See what I mean?

Do you mean reality bites?

I said above that the anti-energy independence conservatives nitpick the imperfections as part of their propaganda,

and voila! right on cue one of them chimes in.

 

[NYcarbineer]

...it had to pay people to use electricity.

"On Sunday, May 8, Germany hit a new high in renewable energy generation. Thanks to a sunny and windy day, at one point around 1pm the country’s solar, wind, hydro and biomass plants were supplying about 55 GW of the 63 GW being consumed, or 87%.

Power prices actually went negative for several hours, meaning commercial customers were being paid to consume electricity."

While conservatives stonewall progress in this country, with lame excuses, nitpicking imperfections, and simply lying,

the rest of the world is moving ahead.

Germany had so much renewable energy on Sunday that it had to pay people to use electricity

That is impressive and encouraging for the future of renewables. However it also highlights the biggest hurdle facing renewables- Storage! Too bad that couldn't save all those electrons for a rainy, dark day.

That's why you run a mix of energy sources.

 

[BULLDOG]

One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

 

[BULLDOG]

One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source.

That is a very ignorant statement.

It's a very true statement.

 

[martybegan]

One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

 

[Muhammed]

One day huh?
So what are ya gonna do about the other 364 days?

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source.

That is a very ignorant statement.

It's a very true statement.

Prove it.

You need to hit the library and learn some history.

 

[BULLDOG]

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

 

[NYcarbineer]

At any given moment, there is always somewhere the wind is blowing, the sun is shining, and water is flowing.

All produce energy, and always will. Why people want to discourage using that energy and would rather drill 2 miles deep in the ocean in a desperate attempt to find more oil is anyone's guess.

 

[NYcarbineer]

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

The most amount of money they've given away is the money gone to protect the oil market in the Middle East.

 

[martybegan]

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

Allowing tax deductions is not giving away money. giving away money is giving away money (i.e. a payout).

 

[martybegan]

At any given moment, there is always somewhere the wind is blowing, the sun is shining, and water is flowing.

All produce energy, and always will. Why people want to discourage using that energy and would rather drill 2 miles deep in the ocean in a desperate attempt to find more oil is anyone's guess.

When you can make the wind farms and solar arrays mobile enough to meet your above situation, then you can talk.

 

[martybegan]

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

The most amount of money they've given away is the money gone to protect the oil market in the Middle East.

We protect our interests there and abroad. are you advocating isolationism?

 

[NYcarbineer]

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

The most amount of money they've given away is the money gone to protect the oil market in the Middle East.

We protect our interests there and abroad. are you advocating isolationism?

Yes. I think the 2 trillion we spent on the Iraq wars for oil could have been better spent on domestic energy investment.

 

[martybegan]

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

The most amount of money they've given away is the money gone to protect the oil market in the Middle East.

We protect our interests there and abroad. are you advocating isolationism?

Yes. I think the 2 trillion we spent on the Iraq wars for oil could have been better spent on domestic energy investment.

back to the old BOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHH lines, eh?

 

[BULLDOG]

Germany's at 33% average renewable energy and going higher all the time. Let me ask you this.

What is the POINT of opposing renewable energy development?

it's opposing forcing technology that hasn't matured yet at the expense of proven technology in the name of all holy AGW.

If the technology was able to stand on its own, without subsides and at a lower cost and higher reliability then non renewable sources, most of us wouldn't have an issue.

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source.

That is a very ignorant statement.

It's a very true statement.

Prove it.

You need to hit the library and learn some history.

One of us does.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

Allowing tax deductions is not giving away money. giving away money is giving away money (i.e. a payout).

Some people have been in business, and understand accounting, some people have not and don't understand accounting, and still others understand accounting but choose to lie and twist the truth. Allowing tax deductions for a depleting asset is not a subsidy, it is in the tax code for all businesses in all industries who use depleting assets.

 

[BULLDOG]

If oil hadn't received massive tax breaks, it would have never become a viable energy source. Over the past century, the federal government has pumped more than $470 Billion into the oil and gas industry in the form of generous, never ending tax breaks.
There will be subsidies: A brief history of tax breaks for oil companies

basically you are complaining about depreciation in a specific industry. Depreciation is used in other industries as a write off as well. What the depletion allowance did was give it a quantifiable measurement for drilling and well operations.

1926 Congress approves the "depletion allowance," which lets oil producers deduct more than a quarter of their gross revenues. Texas Sen. Tom Connally, who sponsored the break, later admits, "We could have taken a 5 or 10 percent figure, but we grabbed 27.5 percent because we were not only hogs but the odd figure made it appear as though it was scientifically arrived at."

So companies in the business of making money went with an offer to make more money...

Scandalous....

I thought you RWNJs were against giving away federal money for no good reason.

The most amount of money they've given away is the money gone to protect the oil market in the Middle East.

There is no shortage of giveaways to oil companies in all areas.

 

[Granny]

Sounds like a terrific deal to me ... or should I say a "terrorific" deal?
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