On filibusters

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  1. Wry Catcher
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    Should the Senate revise its rules and allow for a simple majority to call for the vote, ending a filibuster?

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    Debate, Filibusters, and Cloture


    The presiding officer of the Senate may not use the power to recognize senators to control the flow of business. If no senator holds the floor, any senator seeking recognition has a right to be recognized, and then, usually, to speak for as long as he or she wishes (but only twice a day on the same question). Once recognized, a senator can move to call up any measure or offer any amendment or motion that is in order. Senate rules do not permit a majority to end debate and vote on a pending question.


    Generally, no debatable question can come to a vote if senators still wish to speak. Senators who oppose a pending bill or other matter may speak against it at indefinite length, or delay action by offering numerous amendments and motions. A filibuster involves using such tactics in the hope of convincing the Senate to alter a measure or withdraw it from consideration. The only bills that cannot be filibustered are those few considered under provisions of law that limit time for debating them.


    The only procedure Senate rules provide for overcoming filibusters is cloture, which cannot be voted until two days after it is proposed in a petition signed by 16 senators. Cloture requires the support of three-fifths of senators (normally 60), except on proposals to change the rules, when cloture requires two-thirds of senators voting. If the Senate invokes cloture on a bill, amendment, or other matter, its further consideration is limited to 30 additional hours, including time consumed by votes and quorum calls, during which each senator may speak for no more than one hour.


    Link: U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Legislative Process > Senate Legislative Process
     
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    A Senator proposed to end all filibusters in the Senate.

    However, a bi-partisan coalition of 99 other Senators, lead by Senator Philip Buster was successful of quelling that motion.
     
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    Only when it suits Democrats
     
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    Make them ACTUALLY FILIBUSTER FCS...lol
     
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    If you want this fine just don't try and swing the pendulum back the other way when Democrats are the minority party in the Senate again as one day they will be if your ok with both parties having that power to push their agenda through when they are in the majority go for it.
     
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    A transparent attempt to suppress minority rights in the Senate. When the Dums held a 60 vote majority I never heard any proposal like this.
     
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    Filibusters no longer serve any purpose, other than to impose a de facto supermajority requirement on every single piece of legislation introduced in the chamber.
     
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    Only when it suits Democrats

    Republican control the House, so it is still majority rule or do Dems get to pass everything on a "2 out of 3 ain't bad" theory?
     
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    If they're going to have a filibuster then it needs to be a REAL filibuster. I'm talking about going back to the days when they were required to literally stand there and read from the dictionary for 24 hours straight, not this candy ass bullshit where they just declare they're having a filibuster and that's it.
     
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    When that was the case, it was the Republicans asking for an end to the filibuster rule.
     

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