OMG Its not that serious, Its the Clinton Tax Rates

[g5000]

Democrats: Tax and Spend

Republicans: Borrow and Spend

 

[boedicca]

Democrats: Tax and Spend

Republicans: Borrow and Spend

Really? Then why has Obama pushed to raise the Debt Ceiling?

 

[SniperFire]

Democrats: Tax and Spend

Republicans: Borrow and Spend

Really? Then why has Obama pushed to raise the Debt Ceiling?

but... but... but...


LOL

 

[g5000]

Democrats: Tax and Spend

Republicans: Borrow and Spend

Really? Then why has Obama pushed to raise the Debt Ceiling?

This is one of the greatest scams for the rubes ever.

Who controls the purse strings, boedicca?

That's right. Congress.

And if the Congress spends more than the Treasury gets in revenues, what does that mean with respect to the debt?

That's right. The debt goes up.

So if Congress appropriates more money than the Treasury is taking in, what will have to happen?

That's right. The Treasury will have to borrow money.

Congress spent the money and then they put on a theater for the rubes like you when the Treasury then has to request a raise of the debt ceiling so the Treasury can borrow the money needed for Congress's spending!

Wake up.

So now let's get you on record. Please tell us why Defense spending should not be returned to pre-war levels. Please explain why Boehner is refusing a single cent of Defense cuts.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Look at this:

Look at the DoD budget before 9/11.

Look at it now.

Look at it into the future.

One war is over, the other very nearly.

Why is the projected DoD budget not being returned to pre-war levels?

As long as the GOP opposes Defense spending cuts, they need to shut their pie-holes about their "fiscal conservatism". They come across as raging hypocrites.

And anyone who is around today claiming to be a conservative who does not speak out against this will probably years from now claim they did, just like they claim they were always against Bush's spending. But we know better, don't we.

The GOP today is the "borrow and spend" party. This is irrefutable fact.

Pre-war levels after being cut by the globalist clinton is one reason we were attacked, we looked weak.

 

[g5000]

Democrats: Tax and Spend

Republicans: Borrow and Spend

Really? Then why has Obama pushed to raise the Debt Ceiling?

but... but... but...


LOL

The jokes on you, dipshit. I answered the question.

The only person dodging here is you. Let's get you on record about the Defense budget.

but...but...but...

LOL

 

[jillian]

Look at this:

Look at the DoD budget before 9/11.

Look at it now.

Look at it into the future.

One war is over, the other very nearly.

Why is the projected DoD budget not being returned to pre-war levels?

As long as the GOP opposes Defense spending cuts, they need to shut their pie-holes about their "fiscal conservatism". They come across as raging hypocrites.

And anyone who is around today claiming to be a conservative who does not speak out against this will probably years from now claim they did, just like they claim they were always against Bush's spending. But we know better, don't we.

The GOP today is the "borrow and spend" party. This is irrefutable fact.

Pre-war levels after being cut by the globalist clinton is one reason we were attacked, we looked weak.

no.... shrub cutting taxes during wartime for the ONLY TIME IN RECORDED HISTORY was the problem....

not to mention what the medical needs of our vets are b/c of bush's wars of adventure.

and there's no reason not to cut at least parts of the military budget that are wasteful. we certainly don't need what romney said we do.

 

[g5000]

Look at this:

Look at the DoD budget before 9/11.

Look at it now.

Look at it into the future.

One war is over, the other very nearly.

Why is the projected DoD budget not being returned to pre-war levels?

As long as the GOP opposes Defense spending cuts, they need to shut their pie-holes about their "fiscal conservatism". They come across as raging hypocrites.

And anyone who is around today claiming to be a conservative who does not speak out against this will probably years from now claim they did, just like they claim they were always against Bush's spending. But we know better, don't we.

The GOP today is the "borrow and spend" party. This is irrefutable fact.

Pre-war levels after being cut by the globalist clinton is one reason we were attacked, we looked weak.

You guys need to get your story straight. boedicca said it was the GOP that cut spending. Not Clinton.

And you said, "we were attacked". Really? You mean 9/11? Please provide evidence one reason for 9/11 was because OBL perceived our national defense as weak.

And Iraq didn't attack us, dipshit. We attacked them.

 

[SniperFire]

Look at this:

Look at the DoD budget before 9/11.

Look at it now.

Look at it into the future.

One war is over, the other very nearly.

Why is the projected DoD budget not being returned to pre-war levels?

As long as the GOP opposes Defense spending cuts, they need to shut their pie-holes about their "fiscal conservatism". They come across as raging hypocrites.

And anyone who is around today claiming to be a conservative who does not speak out against this will probably years from now claim they did, just like they claim they were always against Bush's spending. But we know better, don't we.

The GOP today is the "borrow and spend" party. This is irrefutable fact.

Pre-war levels after being cut by the globalist clinton is one reason we were attacked, we looked weak.

I have the moron on ignore, but someone should explain to him what 6% baseline budgeting does to any notion of returning to a pre-level of anything 12 years in the past.

 

[jillian]

Look at this:

Look at the DoD budget before 9/11.

Look at it now.

Look at it into the future.

One war is over, the other very nearly.

Why is the projected DoD budget not being returned to pre-war levels?

As long as the GOP opposes Defense spending cuts, they need to shut their pie-holes about their "fiscal conservatism". They come across as raging hypocrites.

And anyone who is around today claiming to be a conservative who does not speak out against this will probably years from now claim they did, just like they claim they were always against Bush's spending. But we know better, don't we.

The GOP today is the "borrow and spend" party. This is irrefutable fact.

Pre-war levels after being cut by the globalist clinton is one reason we were attacked, we looked weak.

You guys need to get your story straight. boedicca said it was the GOP that cut spending. Not Clinton.

And you said, "we were attacked". Really? You mean 9/11? Please provide evidence one reason for 9/11 was because OBL perceived our national defense as weak.

And Iraq didn't attack us, dipshit. We attacked them.

she's kind of a moron... you can't really expect her to get it right.

 

[g5000]

Look at this:

Look at the DoD budget before 9/11.

Look at it now.

Look at it into the future.

One war is over, the other very nearly.

Why is the projected DoD budget not being returned to pre-war levels?

As long as the GOP opposes Defense spending cuts, they need to shut their pie-holes about their "fiscal conservatism". They come across as raging hypocrites.

And anyone who is around today claiming to be a conservative who does not speak out against this will probably years from now claim they did, just like they claim they were always against Bush's spending. But we know better, don't we.

The GOP today is the "borrow and spend" party. This is irrefutable fact.

Pre-war levels after being cut by the globalist clinton is one reason we were attacked, we looked weak.

I have the moron on ignore, but someone should explain to him what 6% baseline budgeting does to any notion of returning to a pre-level of anything 12 years in the past.

but...but...but...

LOL

What a chickenshit you are.

 

[LibertyLemming]

Where is the remove all federal taxes and completely scale down the Federal Government to a military, court, and basic government functions option?

 

[kyzr]

The poll choices are inadequate.

I'd prefer to see federal spending rolled back to 2008 levels. We have a spending problem, exacerbated by the supposed temporary stimulus turning into structural spending (aided and abetted by the Dems refusal to pass a budget).

Roll it back.

How far back, $2-trillion? I think we're at $4 now, so cutting spending means cutting entitlements. I'm for cutting foreign aid, but unless you specify the cuts your idea goes no where.

 

[g5000]

I have the moron on ignore, but someone should explain to him what 6% baseline budgeting does to any notion of returning to a pre-level of anything 12 years in the past.

I like how you pulled 6% out of your ass. Especially since the economy has not grown that much in decades.

Here's another chart to chew on:

Dumbass. Not even during the Cold War did we explode DoD spending the way Bush did.

There simply is no excuse for not lowering Defense spending considerably.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

That's not going to ever happen.

 

[kyzr]

Where is the remove all federal taxes and completely scale down the Federal Government to a military, court, and basic government functions option?

After we paid into SS and Medicare all our lives? Nope, not a workable option. Entitlements we earned need to be provided.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Fine. We'll cut defense spending significantly to provide them and then start offering an opt out immediately.

 

[g5000]

Where is the remove all federal taxes and completely scale down the Federal Government to a military, court, and basic government functions option?

That is the Libertarian way of things which will never happen.

Our budget problems could be easily solved in three steps. But the politicians throw up a lot of smoke and mirrors to conceal this. To do the sensible things would greatly weaken their hold on power. Can't have that!

So we have this theater for the rubes over tax rates instead.

1. Eliminate tax expenditures. No more loopholes for anyone. We spend over a trillion dollars a year on them. And if a Congressman can't put a deduction/loophole/credit in the tax code, who will pay him campaign cash to do so? No one. Eliminate them and lower everyone's tax rates.

2. Raise the SS and Medicare eligibility ages to 70, or index them to 9 percent of the population. If we pay 5 more years into SS and Medicare, and draw out 5 years less, that is a huge savings. We are living far longer than our ancestors who created SS. We should be working longer than they did. Common sense.

3. Cut Defense spending. I will not believe anyone is a fiscal conservative until they show some seriousness in this area.

 

[DiamondDave]

I have the moron on ignore, but someone should explain to him what 6% baseline budgeting does to any notion of returning to a pre-level of anything 12 years in the past.

I like how you pulled 6% out of your ass. Especially since the economy has not grown that much in decades.

Here's another chart to chew on:

Dumbass. Not even during the Cold War did we explode DoD spending the way Bush did.

There simply is no excuse for not lowering Defense spending considerably.

As long as entitlements are lowered even more.. because at least defense is something constitutionally charged as a task for the fed....

I am all for cutting waste, etc out of the defense spending
But not when progressives and/or big govt types are not cutting or eliminating their other pet spending

 

[g5000]

Where is the remove all federal taxes and completely scale down the Federal Government to a military, court, and basic government functions option?

After we paid into SS and Medicare all our lives? Nope, not a workable option. Entitlements we earned need to be provided.

SS was intended as insurance, not a retirement plan. Not a way of life. The politicians over the decades have corrupted it and your mind.