Okay so the NFL can make rules but they dont have to follow them now? okay,gotcha.

[Dale Smith]

Here is the proof I was talking about that both the Chargers and Raiders have violated the NFL rules and did not follow them. the Rams situation was much different. Different because Kroneke HONERED the terms of the lease agreement with the Rams and st louis drawn up in 1995.

St Louis fans are blamed Kroneke for the Rams leaving are such morons.They deserved to lose the Rams not only because unlike san diego and oakland who did support their teams when they were bac,st louis had empty stadiums all the time when they were horrible where oakland SD ALWAYS packed them in regardless of how bad they are. st louis deserved to lose the Rams not only because of that but also because of this.

St Louis football fans deserved to lose them as well because they are such clueless morons unaware of the facts to WHY they lost the Rams. Those idiot morons were always blaming Kroneke for them leaving when the REAL people they should have been angry at was the CITY.

Reason being is because Stan Kroneke HONERED the terms of the lase agreement they had with them,He did everything they asked him to do in the agreement. the city of st louis did NOT honor the terms.THEY violated the agreement stated in the lease not Kroneke.

Davis and Spanos on the other hand VIOLATED NFL rules as you can see below in these links.If our government was not corrupt as the NFL is,they would be sued and put behind bars but because of that,nothing will come of these lawsuits if they take action against the NFL.

San Diego Politician Exploring Lawsuit Against Chargers, NFL


If our the government was not so corrupt and evil same as the NFL,the city of oakland and san dieog would WIN in court. the city of st louis would lose though because Kronke followed the terms of the NFL and the lease agreement with the city where spanos and davis did NOT follow NFL rules.

as i said,fuck you stan kroneke for voting for this.I will no longer support the rams anymore since you are a part of this corrupt organization and are an evil greedy bastard same as mark davis and every other NFL owner.fuck you kroneke and the NFL.

City of Oakland: Sue to keep the Raiders brand in Oakland.
Mark Davis along with the NFL have lied about the viability of a new stadium in Oakland and haven't made every effort to keep the team in Oakland. Rather than acknowledging that Oakland has come up with viable proposals for a new stadium and moving forward with those options, Mark Davis, along with the NFL, decided they would relocate the Oakland Raiders to Las Vegas so that they may fleece the state of Nevada for over $750 million. As there are viable and ready stadium options in Oakland, the city of Oakland should file suit to keep the Raiders brand, logo, name, colors, etc. in Oakland as Cleveland did with the Browns in BEDER et al. v. CLEVELAND BROWNS, INC.

the raiders case for staying in oakland is even FAR more tight than the chargers being in LA since as I said,Davis made it perfectly clear he never ONCE had any intention of trying to worlk with the oakland city to get a new stadium which had a VERY VIABLE and solid plan that mother fucker goddel rejected.


goddel is LEAPS AND BOUNDS the worst NFL commissioner ever,that cannot be disputed.

There is no loyalty to the fans....always looking for the BBD (bigger, better deal) and the people that supported their teams don't matter one iota. Just one more reason as to why I am no longer an avid sports fan. Great dissertation on the state of the sports business as it pertains to today.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here is the proof I was talking about that both the Chargers and Raiders have violated the NFL rules and did not follow them. the Rams situation was much different. Different because Kroneke HONERED the terms of the lease agreement with the Rams and st louis drawn up in 1995.

St Louis fans are blamed Kroneke for the Rams leaving are such morons.They deserved to lose the Rams not only because unlike san diego and oakland who did support their teams when they were bac,st louis had empty stadiums all the time when they were horrible where oakland SD ALWAYS packed them in regardless of how bad they are. st louis deserved to lose the Rams not only because of that but also because of this.

St Louis football fans deserved to lose them as well because they are such clueless morons unaware of the facts to WHY they lost the Rams. Those idiot morons were always blaming Kroneke for them leaving when the REAL people they should have been angry at was the CITY.

Reason being is because Stan Kroneke HONERED the terms of the lase agreement they had with them,He did everything they asked him to do in the agreement. the city of st louis did NOT honor the terms.THEY violated the agreement stated in the lease not Kroneke.

Davis and Spanos on the other hand VIOLATED NFL rules as you can see below in these links.If our government was not corrupt as the NFL is,they would be sued and put behind bars but because of that,nothing will come of these lawsuits if they take action against the NFL.

San Diego Politician Exploring Lawsuit Against Chargers, NFL


If our the government was not so corrupt and evil same as the NFL,the city of oakland and san dieog would WIN in court. the city of st louis would lose though because Kronke followed the terms of the NFL and the lease agreement with the city where spanos and davis did NOT follow NFL rules.

as i said,fuck you stan kroneke for voting for this.I will no longer support the rams anymore since you are a part of this corrupt organization and are an evil greedy bastard same as mark davis and every other NFL owner.fuck you kroneke and the NFL.

City of Oakland: Sue to keep the Raiders brand in Oakland.
Mark Davis along with the NFL have lied about the viability of a new stadium in Oakland and haven't made every effort to keep the team in Oakland. Rather than acknowledging that Oakland has come up with viable proposals for a new stadium and moving forward with those options, Mark Davis, along with the NFL, decided they would relocate the Oakland Raiders to Las Vegas so that they may fleece the state of Nevada for over $750 million. As there are viable and ready stadium options in Oakland, the city of Oakland should file suit to keep the Raiders brand, logo, name, colors, etc. in Oakland as Cleveland did with the Browns in BEDER et al. v. CLEVELAND BROWNS, INC.

the raiders case for staying in oakland is even FAR more tight than the chargers being in LA since as I said,Davis made it perfectly clear he never ONCE had any intention of trying to worlk with the oakland city to get a new stadium which had a VERY VIABLE and solid plan that mother fucker goddel rejected.


goddel is LEAPS AND BOUNDS the worst NFL commissioner ever,that cannot be disputed.

There is no loyalty to the fans....always looking for the BBD (bigger, better deal) and the people that supported their teams don't matter one iota. Just one more reason as to why I am no longer an avid sports fan. Great dissertation on the state of the sports business as it pertains to today.

yeah this is the last straw for me.I was pretty much 99.9 % done with the NFL anyways the way they let the cheatriots get away with scandal after scandal and go unpunished for them and its become so obvious these playoffs and superbowls are scripted well in advance as well. there was this one blogger who posted a couple weeks before the game that the patriots would be down by a huge score and then come back and win and not only that,but that it would go into overtime.

I thought he was grasping at straws saying the game would go into overtime but he has done enough exhaustive research to where he knows these things though. I thought he was bonkers saying they would go into overtime but he knows his stuff obviously.

I also knew that the cheats would come back from the huge margin tthey were losing by and that it was all planned.there was never any doubts in my mind on that.sense i woke up a couple years ago I now have gotten to where i know what the outcome of the game is going to be now so why watch it anymore? that is the main reason for me why I stick to old games from the past when the game was not corrupt as it is now.

I was 99.9% sure i was done with the NFL but now with this latest idiotic move by the NFL,I am 100% with them and wont even support the Rams as well. at first when they moved back to LA,I considered stan kroneke my hero because he was righting a wrong. with the chargers going to LA as well though now and now the raiders to vegas,that is one step forward but two steps backwards.

Kroneke is just as much of an asshole as dean spanos of the chargers and mark davis of the raiders the fact he voted for it so i wont even support the rams anymore with them being back in LA.He is no different.

I am going to turn to college sports and watch UCLA football,you know universitys are not going to pack up and leave,they will always be there plus they play the game for the love of the game instead of the money as do the players now the way they jump from team to team which at one time was unheard of in the NFL. fuck the NFL.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Franchise vs. Friars

IMO, there are two 'types' of players in the NFL, and they can be compared to the greats from the Super Bowl winning NY Giants of the 1980s: Phil Simms (QB) and Lawrence Taylor (LB).

The Simms 'brand' of NFL player is coach-obedient (for the most part) and franchise-minded, while the Taylor 'brand' of NFL player is talent-minded (for the most part) and contract-focused.

Both 'types' of players are 'good' for NFL marketing and dynamics, but not respecting the differences between these two 'types' makes it difficult for the rule-makers and managers to create harmonious procedure-focused teams such as the 1985 Chicago Bears or the 2016 Carolina Panthers.

With that said, I think it's relatively cheerful to consider how the Vegas Raiders move can hypothetically symbolize a stylistic shift in sports-marketing. After all, Vegas needs an established/respected professional sports team such as the NFL's Raiders to create a positive city-culture 'vibe' and get out of the 'Bugsy' shadow (if you can call it that). Hey, I'm sure President Trump is intrigued --- the former owner of Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey! Remember what Durant's Thunder (NBA) did for a trauma-dejected Oklahoma City?


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SIMMS: I can't believe Madden approves of the Raiders moving to Vegas.
TAYLOR: I don't think Coach Madden has much say...
SIMMS: The league is changing...
TAYLOR: Well, look what the Patriots did for New England!
SIMMS: Yeah, but fans were equally intrigued by the Peyton-Eli rivalry.
TAYLOR: Contracts gauge marketing angles now.
SIMMS: People will say, "The league is scrambling to be media-catchy."
TAYLOR: You have something against Vegas?
SIMMS: No, but moving the Raiders there suggests people are scrambling.
TAYLOR: Dire straits call for creative thinking.
SIMMS: I'd rather the Raiders move to Carson City.
TAYLOR: Vegas Raiders can offer the NFL a 'fun' complement to the now-boring Patriots.
SIMMS: Why are the Patriots boring?
TAYLOR: No one wants to see Brady win another Super Bowl...he's the opposite of Babe Ruth.
SIMMS: Well, Brady is not as 'fan-loved' as Joe Montana or Eli Manning, but he is very professional.
TAYLOR: The fans want fun and quick evidence of money-in-motion...
SIMMS: I don't see the practicality of bending NFL 'culture' to suit market niches.
TAYLOR: Athletes are considered 'Vegas centurions.'

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PHIL SIMMS and LAWRENCE TAYLOR:

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With that said, I think it's relatively cheerful to consider how the Vegas Raiders move can hypothetically symbolize a stylistic shift in sports-marketing. After all, Vegas needs an established/respected professional sports team such as the NFL's Raiders to create a positive city-culture 'vibe' and get out of the 'Bugsy' shadow (if you can call it that). Hey, I'm sure President Trump is intrigued --- the former owner of Trump Taj Mahalcasino in Atlantic City, New Jersey! Remember what Durant's Thunder (NBA) did for a trauma-dejected Oklahoma City?


The Raiders creating a positive city culture? the Raiders? comedy gold. the raiders image will just give vegas an even badder names than they already have as the city of sin.

they will bring the same result there they did to LA where it was thugs and gangsters that embraced them.

If they wanted such a popular team there for a POSITIVE city culture,then americas team the COWBOYS would have been the one to try and reform the image. that was never going to happen though with jerry jones.lol

 

[yiostheoy]

Okay the NFL is clearly now allowed to make rules but they can break them and change them at a moments notice obviously now. Thats not debatable with the Raiders being allowed to move to Las Vegas.

Here is the proof that they do NOT have to follow the rules they set and that are in writing and have been in place ever since the mid 90's but have been violated and broken recently with first the chargers moving to LA and now the Raiders to Vegas.

This is why I never believed for a second it would be possible for the Raiders to go to Vegas because of rules they have set in place which have been followed since 95 till now.

If you do your research on this as I have the last couple of years, you will find the NFL has guidelines that they set back in the mid 90's that they are set to follow and have been followed all these years until these last 6 months with the chargers move to LA and now the Raiders being allowed to move to Vegas.

Here are the THREE guidelines and rules the NFL drew up in the mid 90's and HAD been followed all these years up until now these last 6 months with the chargers and raiders moves. Both assholes Dean Spanos of the Chargers and now Mark Davis of the Raiders have now broken these three rules. Spanos has broken two of them and Davis has broken all three.

1...

The NFL rulebook states an NFL owner has to meet with their city and try and work something out with them to stay and remain there.That he has to have ongoing communications with them and work with them. Well BOTH Dean Spanos and Mark Davis both VIOLATED that agreement in the rules.

Both cities said they tried to negotiate with both owners but neither ever once came to the table to try and meet with them and work something out.the mayor of san diego went on the radio many times and complained about it saying Spanos never once came to the table and tried to talk work with them and its very well known Mark Davis NEVER once tried to get anything done in Oakland.thats no secret at all them being the Raiders and everything ,that was all over the news everywhere all the time.

2.
the guidelines also state that only if the team has exhausted ALL options and nothing can be worked out,then and only then can the team file for relocation.

Well San Diego wanted the mission valley site where they have played all these years for the site but the chargers wanted downtown and even though the city did not like it,they said they would so it if they came to the table and negotiated with them,asshole spanos never did that and neither did Davis.He said PUBLICLY that he would not stay in oakland even if they came up with a good plan which they DID,that he was going to vegas.

3.
the final one they have that had the NFL rules been FOLLOWED as written down,that would for sure have prevented the Raiders from leaving and WHY I never once considered for a second they had a prayer of getting the votes from the owners, is this rule does not apply to spanos and the chargers which is why I always knew there was a 50/50 chance HE could leave for LA, is that a team cannot leave from a major market to a smaller market. Well this rule does not apply to the chargers obviously but it clearly cannot be debated or disputed that it DOES apply to the Raiders This is the identical and exact as the Rams leaving LA for st louis back in 95 going for the 2nd biggest media market in the country to a real tine one,the 38th biiggest the FACT that Oakland is the SIXTH biggest media market in the country where vegas is even more tiny that St Louis ranked even lower at 44th I believe.

the owners were very angry with then Rams owner Georgia Frontiere when she moved the Rams out of LA to that small hicktown in st louis,they at first in a majority vote voted against it only changing their vote later in march around this time back then approving of it.Well the Raiders going from Oakland to Vegas is the identical to that and no different yet the owners ARE in favor of this after setting up rules for this NOT to happen anymore?

Okay how anybody can still follow the Lying NFL after this and support these greedy assholes anymore is beyond me.wait until they take YOUR teams from you in the future.dont think it will happen,then you are clearly in denial,it will,it has clearly become a merry go round circus now.

I hate the Raiders for the fact they once invaded LA where my Rams are and where they belong but I would never want them out of Oakland.

I know firsthand how devasted and depressed I was back in 95 when the Rams left LA.It was the same as having a woman you devoted your life to and were loyal to for so many years leave you for another man,i would never wish that hurt on anybody which is WHY my heart goes out to the san diego and oakland fans.

a Year ago,I considered Stan Kroneke my hero for bringing the Rams back to LA writing a wrong making it a right now however,I hate that asshole as much as I hate Mark Davis,same as all the other NFL owners.

For the NFL to allow the Raiders to leave Oakland and break the rules they set.everyone of these criminal owners who voted for this should be behind bars for life the fact they broke the rules they set.all with the EXCEPTION of dolphins owner Stephen Ross.The one owner who cared about doing the right thing and resisted the money.He is a true patriot the fact he did not go along with these other criminal NFL owners. I salute and applaud him for that.

From now on anyone without an avatar is going onto my ignore list.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Okay the NFL is clearly now allowed to make rules but they can break them and change them at a moments notice obviously now. Thats not debatable with the Raiders being allowed to move to Las Vegas.

Here is the proof that they do NOT have to follow the rules they set and that are in writing and have been in place ever since the mid 90's but have been violated and broken recently with first the chargers moving to LA and now the Raiders to Vegas.

This is why I never believed for a second it would be possible for the Raiders to go to Vegas because of rules they have set in place which have been followed since 95 till now.

If you do your research on this as I have the last couple of years, you will find the NFL has guidelines that they set back in the mid 90's that they are set to follow and have been followed all these years until these last 6 months with the chargers move to LA and now the Raiders being allowed to move to Vegas.

Here are the THREE guidelines and rules the NFL drew up in the mid 90's and HAD been followed all these years up until now these last 6 months with the chargers and raiders moves. Both assholes Dean Spanos of the Chargers and now Mark Davis of the Raiders have now broken these three rules. Spanos has broken two of them and Davis has broken all three.

1...

The NFL rulebook states an NFL owner has to meet with their city and try and work something out with them to stay and remain there.That he has to have ongoing communications with them and work with them. Well BOTH Dean Spanos and Mark Davis both VIOLATED that agreement in the rules.

Both cities said they tried to negotiate with both owners but neither ever once came to the table to try and meet with them and work something out.the mayor of san diego went on the radio many times and complained about it saying Spanos never once came to the table and tried to talk work with them and its very well known Mark Davis NEVER once tried to get anything done in Oakland.thats no secret at all them being the Raiders and everything ,that was all over the news everywhere all the time.

2.
the guidelines also state that only if the team has exhausted ALL options and nothing can be worked out,then and only then can the team file for relocation.

Well San Diego wanted the mission valley site where they have played all these years for the site but the chargers wanted downtown and even though the city did not like it,they said they would so it if they came to the table and negotiated with them,asshole spanos never did that and neither did Davis.He said PUBLICLY that he would not stay in oakland even if they came up with a good plan which they DID,that he was going to vegas.

3.
the final one they have that had the NFL rules been FOLLOWED as written down,that would for sure have prevented the Raiders from leaving and WHY I never once considered for a second they had a prayer of getting the votes from the owners, is this rule does not apply to spanos and the chargers which is why I always knew there was a 50/50 chance HE could leave for LA, is that a team cannot leave from a major market to a smaller market. Well this rule does not apply to the chargers obviously but it clearly cannot be debated or disputed that it DOES apply to the Raiders This is the identical and exact as the Rams leaving LA for st louis back in 95 going for the 2nd biggest media market in the country to a real tine one,the 38th biiggest the FACT that Oakland is the SIXTH biggest media market in the country where vegas is even more tiny that St Louis ranked even lower at 44th I believe.

the owners were very angry with then Rams owner Georgia Frontiere when she moved the Rams out of LA to that small hicktown in st louis,they at first in a majority vote voted against it only changing their vote later in march around this time back then approving of it.Well the Raiders going from Oakland to Vegas is the identical to that and no different yet the owners ARE in favor of this after setting up rules for this NOT to happen anymore?

Okay how anybody can still follow the Lying NFL after this and support these greedy assholes anymore is beyond me.wait until they take YOUR teams from you in the future.dont think it will happen,then you are clearly in denial,it will,it has clearly become a merry go round circus now.

I hate the Raiders for the fact they once invaded LA where my Rams are and where they belong but I would never want them out of Oakland.

I know firsthand how devasted and depressed I was back in 95 when the Rams left LA.It was the same as having a woman you devoted your life to and were loyal to for so many years leave you for another man,i would never wish that hurt on anybody which is WHY my heart goes out to the san diego and oakland fans.

a Year ago,I considered Stan Kroneke my hero for bringing the Rams back to LA writing a wrong making it a right now however,I hate that asshole as much as I hate Mark Davis,same as all the other NFL owners.

For the NFL to allow the Raiders to leave Oakland and break the rules they set.everyone of these criminal owners who voted for this should be behind bars for life the fact they broke the rules they set.all with the EXCEPTION of dolphins owner Stephen Ross.The one owner who cared about doing the right thing and resisted the money.He is a true patriot the fact he did not go along with these other criminal NFL owners. I salute and applaud him for that.

From now on anyone without an avatar is going onto my ignore list.

uh you have had me on ignore ever since you got here on day one the fact you ALWAYS run off with your tail between your legs and wont answer a question i asked a hundred times before in the past never to get an answer.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I said before this happened,it would not be a done deal that the raiders leave,

Raider Revolution: How Oakland Could Use the 5th Amendment to Keep the Raiders

 

[LA RAM FAN]

oakland had just as much of a good deal as vegas did and yet this idiot mark davis wanted to leave oakltown the fifth biggest media market in the country for that even bigger shithole vegas,the 44th which is out in the middle of the desert nowhere?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2017/03/30/tk-show-amy-trask-vegas-raiders/:cuckoo:

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Raiders owner Mark Davis says Oakland group was 'disrespectful'
FUCK YOU MARK DAVIS AND FUCK YOU NFL

 

[LA RAM FAN]

N.F.L. Stadium in Las Vegas May Be an Ego Boost, but Not an Economic One
the Las Vegas bigwigs backing the stadium should have just said that. Because rarely have the economic rationales for a new stadium been as flimsy as they are in the case of Las Vegas — and never has the subsidy been as high.

the vegas resident who said this is such a great deal for vegas is a moron.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I was just watching ESPN and they had four people on there talking about the raiders going to vegas and one of them was a raiders fan and he said he wont root for them in vegas.good man. i have said a million times if the raiders dont play in oakland they arent the raiders.only an idiot would deny that fact. when they were in LA,that was some phony fraud team there in black and white,that wasnt the raiders.

they were also saying what I been saying all along as well that the raiders going to vegas was all about GREED.that the owners voted for it since they get 11 million a piece in relocation fees.they nailed it. thats also what I been saying all along,its all about GREED.the NFL owners just see the dollars in relocation fees,they dont see what a disaster and time bomB this really is for the NFL long term.

The other thing they talked about that made me happy as well to see the mainstream media mention it,was what I have been saying alll along as well how everyone thinks that because it is vegas,its all glamor and glitz and this is a great thing for the NFL but even THEY said what I been saying all along,its not a good deal at all because of the fact that Vegas is such a poor city that there will be no homefield advantage there for the raiders.well done,glad to see the MAINSTREAM media touch this for a change.

.the NFL is so goddamn corrupt I guarantee this will be the decline of the NFL cause i also guarantee there are thousands of fans across the country that are just like me,not raider fans but tired of all this bullshit relocation and upset about the raiders leaving.you just dont take the raiders out of oakland,thats like taking the yankees or cowboys out of new york or dallas and going to orlando florida.no different.anybody who thinks otherwise is a moron.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

for the ignorant who have cheered on the raiders the past 20 years,"You are NOT ignorant if you cheered on the raiders the last 20 years just to clear that up,just ignorant if you will STILL cheer for them in vegas." and will STILL cheer them on,is john madden a fake fan?

John Madden trashes Raiders move to Las Vegas: 'Really bothers me'

 

[LA RAM FAN]

hypocrite indeed. a lying one at that saying the NFL was working to keep all their teams in their respective markets.

The Raiders' Move to Las Vegas Proves Roger Goodell's a Hypocrite

 

[LA RAM FAN]

unbelievable how morons here think this is such a great deal for vegas.this guy gets it.He sees it that NFL owners should build their own fucking stadiums. the tax payers of vegas are getting ripped off big time and they are clueless about this.

like he says so well,shouldnt tax money be spent on college education and parks and roads rather than some stupid new stadium?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

he nailed it.

NFL ratings this year will be even worse than last years were,the all time low.
Former fan‏ @RussellRivera
Replying to @dkaplanSBJ
and owners wonder why ratings are dropping. Fans growing disenchanted with greed and arrogance.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

as I been saying,its not over yet.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

amen brutha.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

you go girl.

Greg Jones

Many of us already mentioned those issues with Las Vegas. Now these fools are just noticing them?

https://lasvegassun.com/…/sisolak-raiders-tight-constructi…/

 

[LA RAM FAN]

PERFECT example of hows the media lies. this person nailed it to a tee and said it so well,I could not have said it better.

I'm glad I was part of that so-called 1,000. Anyone who believes they would say the real amount of folks that request for a refund gotta be crazy themselves. No smart businessman is going to say how he's getting less consumers.



the REAL number of Oakland fans who actually wanted refunds for season tickets for this season is actually around in the SEVERAL thousands like in the 30's at LEAST and even in the 40's.we know that to be true because most oakland season ticket holders that were polled said they would dump their season tickets in a heartbeat if they left for vegas and if you know the loyalty of the oakland fans,you know they MEAN it,that it wasnt just all talk. the only fans that you will see showing up for raider games in oakland this year are from the opposing team guaranteed.

also the year the oliers left Houston for nashville if you remember,that was announced in the middle of the season back then as well and that stadium was a ghostown the rest of the season with the majority of the seats empty.oakland has the most passionate fans in the country so you think they wont follow the same lead that the Houston fans did back then? better think again.

I tip my cap off to the OAKLAND fans for taking a stand against the corrupt NFL.

 

[HenryBHough]

NFL is a monopoly and must be treated and taxed as such.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

a TRUE Raider fan would not cheer on the Raiders or support them and boycott the NFL because as i have said a million times before,if the Raiders dont play in OAKLAND,then they are not the Raiders. same as with the chargers,if they dont play in san diego,they are not the chargers.

Thats WHY I refused to cheer on the Rams when they left LA,if they dont play in LA,they are not the Rams.period. the fucking idiots around here who dont care about the Rams being back in LA or cared if they stayed in st louis are indeed that,IDIOTS because the Rams are not the RAMS if they dont play in LA,the raiders are not the raiders if they dont play in OAKLAND,the chargers are not the chargers if they dont play in SAN DIEGO.end of discussion,PERIOD.