Ohio Republicans move to exclude judges from interpreting enshrined abortion rights

[struth]

That's not what your dear leader Trump did. Instead he setup fake electors.

No he didn’t. There were real electors in place if needed

 

[martybegan]

That's not what your dear leader Trump did. Instead he setup fake electors.

Which until they actually tried to do anything weren't illegal. And even then would only be illegal if they tried to prevent the other electors from electing AND were accepted by the State while not being the actual electors.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Which until they actually tried to do anything weren't illegal. And even then would only be illegal if they tried to prevent the other electors from electing AND were accepted by the State while not being the actual electors.

Normalising this shit makes you complicit.

 

[martybegan]

Normalising this shit makes you complicit.

Criminalizing opposing political activity makes you a Nazi, a Communist, or a bit of both.

 

[struth]

Normalising this shit makes you complicit.

there is nothing abnormal about it. There was however something abnormal when Dems tried to get electors not to vote as they were sworn to do in 2016.

Democratic presidential electors revolt against Trump

The Electoral College could see a historic number of "faithless electors."

www.politico.com

At least a half-dozen Democratic electors have signed onto an attempt to block Donald Trump from winning an Electoral College majority, an effort designed not only to deny Trump the presidency but also to undermine the legitimacy of the institution.

 

[SavannahMann]

Which until they actually tried to do anything weren't illegal. And even then would only be illegal if they tried to prevent the other electors from electing AND were accepted by the State while not being the actual electors.

If you were carrying a badge that said you were a cop, and you were not one, just possessing it is impersonating a police officer, a felony. You are in possession of credentials that you are not entitled to possess.

There are some exceptions. Movie actors on set. That sort of thing. But if Joe Citizen was found with them it would be a crime. Those idiots who buy badges that say concealed carry license are flaunting jail.

The case can and almost certainly will result in jail time and a trial.

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So declaring yourself as a cop isn’t necessarily a prerequisite to getting busted for impersonating a cop.

On to our Trump believers who signed and accepted documents declaring themselves as the designated Electors of the State. They didn’t have to show up in Washington. Intent. Conspiracy. All those apply.

That is why it is illegal to even talk about hiring someone to kill your wife. The person you are talking to doesn’t have to actually kill anyone. Conspiracy and intent come into play.

 

[martybegan]

If you were carrying a badge that said you were a cop, and you were not one, just possessing it is impersonating a police officer, a felony. You are in possession of credentials that you are not entitled to possess.

There are some exceptions. Movie actors on set. That sort of thing. But if Joe Citizen was found with them it would be a crime. Those idiots who buy badges that say concealed carry license are flaunting jail.

The case can and almost certainly will result in jail time and a trial.

Should You Have a Concealed Carry Badge? The Pros & Cons | Option Gray

There are several advantages and disadvantages that are associated with purchasing and carrying a concealed carry badge. Getting a concealed carry badge can be used…

optiongray.com

So declaring yourself as a cop isn’t necessarily a prerequisite to getting busted for impersonating a cop.

On to our Trump believers who signed and accepted documents declaring themselves as the designated Electors of the State. They didn’t have to show up in Washington. Intent. Conspiracy. All those apply.

That is why it is illegal to even talk about hiring someone to kill your wife. The person you are talking to doesn’t have to actually kill anyone. Conspiracy and intent come into play.

A police officer is different because they have the authority to make arrests without fear of prosecution as long as they follow police procedures.

When electors can arrest someone, then you can make the comparison.

 

[struth]

If you were carrying a badge that said you were a cop, and you were not one, just possessing it is impersonating a police officer, a felony. You are in possession of credentials that you are not entitled to possess.

There are some exceptions. Movie actors on set. That sort of thing. But if Joe Citizen was found with them it would be a crime. Those idiots who buy badges that say concealed carry license are flaunting jail.

The case can and almost certainly will result in jail time and a trial.

Should You Have a Concealed Carry Badge? The Pros & Cons | Option Gray

There are several advantages and disadvantages that are associated with purchasing and carrying a concealed carry badge. Getting a concealed carry badge can be used…

optiongray.com

So declaring yourself as a cop isn’t necessarily a prerequisite to getting busted for impersonating a cop.

On to our Trump believers who signed and accepted documents declaring themselves as the designated Electors of the State. They didn’t have to show up in Washington. Intent. Conspiracy. All those apply.

That is why it is illegal to even talk about hiring someone to kill your wife. The person you are talking to doesn’t have to actually kill anyone. Conspiracy and intent come into play.

Owning a badge and not being a cop, is not a crime. It’s not impersonation of a law enforcement officer.

 

[SavannahMann]

A police officer is different because they have the authority to make arrests without fear of prosecution as long as they follow police procedures.

When electors can arrest someone, then you can make the comparison.

Impersonating a lot of things is illegal. It is illegal to impersonate an elected official in Georgia.

2022 Georgia Code :: Title 16 - Crimes and Offenses :: Chapter 10 - Offenses Against Public Administration :: Article 2 - Obstruction of Public Administration and Related Offenses :: § 16-10-23. Impersonating a Public Officer or Employee

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A person who falsely holds himself or herself out as a peace officer, officer of the court, or other public officer or employee with intent to mislead another into believing that he or she is actually such officer commits the offense of impersonating an officer and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years, or both.

Public Officer or employee.

So claiming that you work for a State Representative is impersonating a public official. Claiming you are anything official is a crime in Georgia. Telling someone to do it is Conspiracy. Conspiracy to commit a number of crimes qualifies as a RICO case.

 

[SavannahMann]

Owning a badge and not being a cop, is not a crime. It’s not impersonation of a law enforcement officer.

I keep telling you guys. You need to learn the laws.

 

[martybegan]

Impersonating a lot of things is illegal. It is illegal to impersonate an elected official in Georgia.

2022 Georgia Code :: Title 16 - Crimes and Offenses :: Chapter 10 - Offenses Against Public Administration :: Article 2 - Obstruction of Public Administration and Related Offenses :: § 16-10-23. Impersonating a Public Officer or Employee

Justia Free Databases of US Laws, Codes & Statutes

law.justia.com

A person who falsely holds himself or herself out as a peace officer, officer of the court, or other public officer or employee with intent to mislead another into believing that he or she is actually such officer commits the offense of impersonating an officer and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years, or both.

Public Officer or employee.

So claiming that you work for a State Representative is impersonating a public official. Claiming you are anything official is a crime in Georgia. Telling someone to do it is Conspiracy. Conspiracy to commit a number of crimes qualifies as a RICO case.

To members of the public, as a job, usually government.

Not as part of the electoral process where there could be issues of contention.

 

[SavannahMann]

To members of the public, as a job, usually government.

Not as part of the electoral process where there could be issues of contention.

Well several states are prosecuting the folks involved. So it seems that waving a document around claiming to be something you aren’t is actually illegal.

 

[martybegan]

Well several states are prosecuting the folks involved. So it seems that waving a document around claiming to be something you aren’t is actually illegal.

Persecuting is more like it.

No, it's a political crime according to your SJW massahs.

 

[struth]

I keep telling you guys. You need to learn the laws.

I know the laws, merely owning a badge isn't a crime.

 

[hadit]

You should run on that platform.

Only if I can debate you on an open stage. Your ignorance of American politics is a huge advantage for me.

 

[Care4all]

Nobody said anything about modifiying the amendment...read the link in the OP...the quote is "modifying existing law..." the legislature certainly can do that, and might have to enforce the new Amendment.

Here's the quote from the article "
The Ohio legislature alone will consider what, if any, modifications to make to existing laws based on public hearings and input from legal experts on both sides.”


It certainly would be nice if you dembot posters had a clue what we were talking about before jumping in

Why the new law silly one? If the legislature already had the power in normal legislating as you claim Struth?

 

[initforme]

The voters have spoken. That's the way it went. So it's best to accept it. Better than wealthy men making the decision.