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The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the states
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
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In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Well, no, that's a separate issue. Constitutionally, Congress DOES need to agree to compacts among the states, but even if it does agree with this compact, the Supreme Court can still say that they're violating various rights of the people and overreaching their delegated powers.
The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the statesThe Presidency has never been about the popular vote.
President Trump won 30 of 50 states. You can cry about millions of extra votes in deep blue states like California and New York all you want.
If we had a national popular vote it would only encourage ballot stuffing in every state and corruption would win elections. Would you like it if deep red states threw out all their Dem votes and added more Republican ones?
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
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In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
You don't seem to follow the idea. NO, "another state" would not choose the winner, the COUNTRY would choose the winner. Collectively.
No, because the overage mostly took place in CA. Therefore they would be making our choice for us if this law was ever reality.
AGAIN ---- nothing "unconstitutional" about " in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct". That specifically states that literally anything is Constitutional. It is unqualified, unlimited and wide open.
You cannot legislate that majority of a state will not be counted and say it's constitutional. What if we in Ohio decided to legislate that black votes will not be counted? Nothing unconstitutional about that as long as "legislature directed it" huh?
Too late for that. In 2016 in your neighbor Michigan (for one) the majority was not counted, and it was Constitutional. Interestingly in Michigan, state Democrat legislators had in the past arranged for its EC to reflect the popular vote proportionally, until later Republicans dumped it and went to WTA.
And that --- the majority not being counted --- also took place in my state, in Cecile's state, in Florida, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Colorado, and in at least seven other states too, and they were ALL Constitutional because they all exist under the same clause of the same Constitution.
That's the turd that WTA plops out.
You don't seem to follow the idea. NO, "another state" would not choose the winner, the COUNTRY would choose the winner. Collectively.
No, because the overage mostly took place in CA. Therefore they would be making our choice for us if this law was ever reality.
AGAIN ---- nothing "unconstitutional" about " in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct". That specifically states that literally anything is Constitutional. It is unqualified, unlimited and wide open.
You cannot legislate that majority of a state will not be counted and say it's constitutional. What if we in Ohio decided to legislate that black votes will not be counted? Nothing unconstitutional about that as long as "legislature directed it" huh?
Too late for that. In 2016 in your neighbor Michigan (for one) the majority was not counted, and it was Constitutional. Interestingly in Michigan, state Democrat legislators had in the past arranged for its EC to reflect the popular vote proportionally, until later Republicans dumped it and went to WTA.
And that --- the majority not being counted --- also took place in my state, in Cecile's state, in Florida, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Colorado, and in at least seven other states too, and they were ALL Constitutional because they all exist under the same clause of the same Constitution.
That's the turd that WTA plops out.
Oh really? You mean those states already do what these clowns were proposing; giving all their electors to whoever won the national popular vote?
In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
So your hugely important point that you just HAD to post about was that the asswipe who runs the group says it's legal and a great idea?
How very enlightening. And?
That's why I marked my post "Hugely Important"
Posting it implies that you're saying something you consider important and meaningful.
It wasn't.
I understand you were just being a sarcastic snot, you had to post your first snide comments because they were important enough for you to post them. So yeah, for whatever reasons I posted that, it was enough. Not that it was hugely or important, or meaningful in any sort of way other than to me. But is it important enough to hit Post....,, mmmmmm fuck I donno, I already type the shit out so .... .here goes.....
You are correct that I had to post because I thought it was important. I always think it's important to point out useless BS when I see it. You may not agree; other people do.
However, in this case, it's relevant to notice that your post actually had no real point to it. It provided no information that wasn't already known, nor did it express your opinion.
Oh, really? The guy fronting the push for the NPV Compact thinks it's a good idea? You don't say? That certainly puts a new spin on things.
The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the states
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
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In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Well, no, that's a separate issue. Constitutionally, Congress DOES need to agree to compacts among the states, but even if it does agree with this compact, the Supreme Court can still say that they're violating various rights of the people and overreaching their delegated powers.
The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the states
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Outside of a constitutional amendment, Congress has nothing to do with it. It would be between the state and the courts, just like with Voter-ID.
The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the statesOf course Dems would support screwing over the results of an election and the will of the people. They are saying that if a candidate wins a state, the electoral vote will be changed to the exact opposite outcome based on how other people in other states vote. Tyranny at its finest.Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery
DemNazis...
If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!
We are in a Civil War.
And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.
But look at it this way, if the Trumpublicans win the popular vote, think of the bragging rights to the landslide victory in the EC the Trumpublicans would have. Faux's Anchor's would have on-air orgasms.
The Presidency has never been about the popular vote.
President Trump won 30 of 50 states. You can cry about millions of extra votes in deep blue states like California and New York all you want.
If we had a national popular vote it would only encourage ballot stuffing in every state and corruption would win elections. Would you like it if deep red states threw out all their Dem votes and added more Republican ones?
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the states
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
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In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Outside of a constitutional amendment, Congress has nothing to do with it. It would be between the state and the courts, just like with Voter-ID.
So your hugely important point that you just HAD to post about was that the asswipe who runs the group says it's legal and a great idea?
How very enlightening. And?
That's why I marked my post "Hugely Important"
Posting it implies that you're saying something you consider important and meaningful.
It wasn't.
I understand you were just being a sarcastic snot, you had to post your first snide comments because they were important enough for you to post them. So yeah, for whatever reasons I posted that, it was enough. Not that it was hugely or important, or meaningful in any sort of way other than to me. But is it important enough to hit Post....,, mmmmmm fuck I donno, I already type the shit out so .... .here goes.....
You are correct that I had to post because I thought it was important. I always think it's important to point out useless BS when I see it. You may not agree; other people do.
However, in this case, it's relevant to notice that your post actually had no real point to it. It provided no information that wasn't already known, nor did it express your opinion.
Oh, really? The guy fronting the push for the NPV Compact thinks it's a good idea? You don't say? That certainly puts a new spin on things.
Like I'm suppose to care that you can't discern why I posted that in response
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
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In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Well, no, that's a separate issue. Constitutionally, Congress DOES need to agree to compacts among the states, but even if it does agree with this compact, the Supreme Court can still say that they're violating various rights of the people and overreaching their delegated powers.
As a matter of fact there is already a suit in the works by several states. Doesn't matter. Will the SC decide that the Federal Government has the power to force those States to change their laws on how they choose their electors? I don't think they will.
Dumbshits should realize it is a double edge sword and instead focus their efforts harder to get the voters in the counties of the states that they need to win, imo.
Well this group of losers called it quits so we will never know. Good luck next time losers!
Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com
In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Outside of a constitutional amendment, Congress has nothing to do with it. It would be between the state and the courts, just like with Voter-ID.
The court doesn't have the power to change the Constitution. From what I understand when/if they get enough states, they are going to ask Congress for consent anyway just to avoid any sense of impropriety.
Look at it this way. If it ever comes to pass, and some how you assholes win a popular election (LOL), all those Blue States will have to cast their EC vote for your guy(or gal [hahaha]), giving them a huge, I mean huge, EC landslide victory.
That's why I marked my post "Hugely Important"
Posting it implies that you're saying something you consider important and meaningful.
It wasn't.
I understand you were just being a sarcastic snot, you had to post your first snide comments because they were important enough for you to post them. So yeah, for whatever reasons I posted that, it was enough. Not that it was hugely or important, or meaningful in any sort of way other than to me. But is it important enough to hit Post....,, mmmmmm fuck I donno, I already type the shit out so .... .here goes.....
You are correct that I had to post because I thought it was important. I always think it's important to point out useless BS when I see it. You may not agree; other people do.
However, in this case, it's relevant to notice that your post actually had no real point to it. It provided no information that wasn't already known, nor did it express your opinion.
Oh, really? The guy fronting the push for the NPV Compact thinks it's a good idea? You don't say? That certainly puts a new spin on things.
Like I'm suppose to care that you can't discern why I posted that in response
Hey, if pointless babble that wastes space for no reason is your thing, have at.
And this is why you get mocked so much, FYI.
In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Outside of a constitutional amendment, Congress has nothing to do with it. It would be between the state and the courts, just like with Voter-ID.
The court doesn't have the power to change the Constitution. From what I understand when/if they get enough states, they are going to ask Congress for consent anyway just to avoid any sense of impropriety.
Look at it this way. If it ever comes to pass, and some how you assholes win a popular election (LOL), all those Blue States will have to cast their EC vote for your guy(or gal [hahaha]), giving them a huge, I mean huge, EC landslide victory.
No one's asking the Court to change the Constitution, and it's pretty rich of YOU to accuse others of that in defense of a scheme designed to do that very thing.
Only a leftist would think, "Look at it this way, YOU'LL get to cheat and take advantage of how we've screwed over the laws too" is an actual argument. I know this will make no sense to you, but not everyone thinks getting their own way is the be-all and end-all of what's right or wrong.
In a statement released Tuesday, National Popular Vote, the group pushing for states to adopt the compact, praised the move by Oregon's state Senate.
"This is the fully constitutional way to ensure that every voter is politically relevant in every presidential election while preserving the Electoral College as the founders intended," John Koza, the group's chairman, said.
Oregon could be the next state to OK sending electoral votes to winner of the popular vote - CNNPolitics
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Well, no, that's a separate issue. Constitutionally, Congress DOES need to agree to compacts among the states, but even if it does agree with this compact, the Supreme Court can still say that they're violating various rights of the people and overreaching their delegated powers.
As a matter of fact there is already a suit in the works by several states. Doesn't matter. Will the SC decide that the Federal Government has the power to force those States to change their laws on how they choose their electors? I don't think they will.
Dumbshits should realize it is a double edge sword and instead focus their efforts harder to get the voters in the counties of the states that they need to win, imo.
No one's asking about "forcing them to change their laws", but I see how you're trying to twist this around so that leftists are just helpless victims being bullied and "forced" into doing things, instead of heinously sore losers tearing apart the fabric of the nation to get their way.
The Supreme Court is fully capable of striking down state laws on the grounds of overreaching their powers, and has done so before.
The Presidency is about Electoral votes decided by the statesOf course Dems would support screwing over the results of an election and the will of the people. They are saying that if a candidate wins a state, the electoral vote will be changed to the exact opposite outcome based on how other people in other states vote. Tyranny at its finest.Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery
DemNazis...
If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!
We are in a Civil War.
And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.
But look at it this way, if the Trumpublicans win the popular vote, think of the bragging rights to the landslide victory in the EC the Trumpublicans would have. Faux's Anchor's would have on-air orgasms.
The Presidency has never been about the popular vote.
President Trump won 30 of 50 states. You can cry about millions of extra votes in deep blue states like California and New York all you want.
If we had a national popular vote it would only encourage ballot stuffing in every state and corruption would win elections. Would you like it if deep red states threw out all their Dem votes and added more Republican ones?
If the states change how they decide, it is their decision
Yes, it is their decision. If that decision is to ignore their own constituents, that’s tyranny.
Posting it implies that you're saying something you consider important and meaningful.
It wasn't.
I understand you were just being a sarcastic snot, you had to post your first snide comments because they were important enough for you to post them. So yeah, for whatever reasons I posted that, it was enough. Not that it was hugely or important, or meaningful in any sort of way other than to me. But is it important enough to hit Post....,, mmmmmm fuck I donno, I already type the shit out so .... .here goes.....
You are correct that I had to post because I thought it was important. I always think it's important to point out useless BS when I see it. You may not agree; other people do.
However, in this case, it's relevant to notice that your post actually had no real point to it. It provided no information that wasn't already known, nor did it express your opinion.
Oh, really? The guy fronting the push for the NPV Compact thinks it's a good idea? You don't say? That certainly puts a new spin on things.
Like I'm suppose to care that you can't discern why I posted that in response
Hey, if pointless babble that wastes space for no reason is your thing, have at.
And this is why you get mocked so much, FYI.
Yeah cause popping off a sarcastic ditty and getting the chance to call someone and Asswipe or something, is really important and meaningful stuff ....
It doesn't matter what he says, it matters what the Supreme Court says.
Unless Congress gives it's consent of course.
Outside of a constitutional amendment, Congress has nothing to do with it. It would be between the state and the courts, just like with Voter-ID.
The court doesn't have the power to change the Constitution. From what I understand when/if they get enough states, they are going to ask Congress for consent anyway just to avoid any sense of impropriety.
Look at it this way. If it ever comes to pass, and some how you assholes win a popular election (LOL), all those Blue States will have to cast their EC vote for your guy(or gal [hahaha]), giving them a huge, I mean huge, EC landslide victory.
No one's asking the Court to change the Constitution, and it's pretty rich of YOU to accuse others of that in defense of a scheme designed to do that very thing.
Only a leftist would think, "Look at it this way, YOU'LL get to cheat and take advantage of how we've screwed over the laws too" is an actual argument. I know this will make no sense to you, but not everyone thinks getting their own way is the be-all and end-all of what's right or wrong.
The states have the right and constitutional authority to determine how they choose their electors. If the states opposing this mechanism happen to win, what is the fix? Who has the authority to tell the states they do not have the power to choose their own electors and they must change the way they have decided?
Working within the system is not cheating. The EC will still determine the outcome. Both parties have the same chance of winning.
Trumpytarian's love to brag, democrats are short sighted.
I understand you were just being a sarcastic snot, you had to post your first snide comments because they were important enough for you to post them. So yeah, for whatever reasons I posted that, it was enough. Not that it was hugely or important, or meaningful in any sort of way other than to me. But is it important enough to hit Post....,, mmmmmm fuck I donno, I already type the shit out so .... .here goes.....
You are correct that I had to post because I thought it was important. I always think it's important to point out useless BS when I see it. You may not agree; other people do.
However, in this case, it's relevant to notice that your post actually had no real point to it. It provided no information that wasn't already known, nor did it express your opinion.
Oh, really? The guy fronting the push for the NPV Compact thinks it's a good idea? You don't say? That certainly puts a new spin on things.
Like I'm suppose to care that you can't discern why I posted that in response
Hey, if pointless babble that wastes space for no reason is your thing, have at.
And this is why you get mocked so much, FYI.
Yeah cause popping off a sarcastic ditty and getting the chance to call someone and Asswipe or something, is really important and meaningful stuff ....
When the alternative is leaving your bullshit unchallenged, you betcha.
You're welcome to keep pussyaching about how "mean" I am to not let you define the debate as though your insanity is reality, but I'm really bored with it.
Bottom line: posting to tell us that the asshole pushing for the Compact thinks it's wonderful and Constitutional is not going to make us accept it as fact. Cope with it.
When the alternative is leaving your bullshit unchallenged, you betcha.
You're welcome to keep pussyaching about how "mean" I am to not let you define the debate as though your insanity is reality, but I'm really bored with it.
Bottom line: posting to tell us that the asshole pushing for the Compact thinks it's wonderful and Constitutional is not going to make us accept it as fact. Cope with it.
