Oh this is gold. Obamacare call center stacked with part timers. No health benefits.

[JakeStarkey]

Not for the poor and the lower working class.

 

[Toronado3800]

Health care is neither wealth redistribution or socialism: learn the terms' definitions.

It's called supply and demand.

Free market competition never worried about the poor and never will.

Bullshit. Health care was quite affordable in this country until the government started fucking with it 50 years ago.

I would respectfully argue the limited technology of 1963 compared with today.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Not for the poor and the lower working class.

It most certainly was. My grandparents wrote a check to the doctor right there on the spot when my parents were born. Doctors used to make house calls. Sure, if you got slammed with a serious disease that would have been costly, but that's what insurance is actually supposed to be for and if that is what we were using it for health care costs would be no where near what they are right now. When you want every damn sniffle and sneeze under the sun covered the rates skyrocket.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It most certainly wasn't for the great majority. Your grandparents were unusual. If they were writing checks to the doctor for births, then they were not poor.

 

[Darkwind]

Not for the poor and the lower working class.

It most certainly was. My grandparents wrote a check to the doctor right there on the spot when my parents were born. Doctors used to make house calls. Sure, if you got slammed with a serious disease that would have been costly, but that's what insurance is actually supposed to be for and if that is what we were using it for health care costs would be no where near what they are right now. When you want every damn sniffle and sneeze under the sun covered the rates skyrocket.

My parents paid for doctor visits out of pocket. My dad had insurance for major medical, meaning if on of us broke something or contracted a serious disease.

Otherwise, our family doctor charged rates that his patients could afford.

Some of that goes on today. I have moderate healthcare coverage. My doctor knows this and often will point out things like how to get blood work cheaper, or will proscribe my blood pressure meds (one pill a day) as two pills a day for three months and this way, it lasts Me six months...

When insurance companies began offering 'well care', the prices grew exponentially and became unaffordable.

 

[Toronado3800]

Not for the poor and the lower working class.

It most certainly was. My grandparents wrote a check to the doctor right there on the spot when my parents were born. Doctors used to make house calls. Sure, if you got slammed with a serious disease that would have been costly, but that's what insurance is actually supposed to be for and if that is what we were using it for health care costs would be no where near what they are right now. When you want every damn sniffle and sneeze under the sun covered the rates skyrocket.

My grandmother's medical care sucked. Lots of tombstones from lost children and mothers to be 100 years ago. Them docs were barely better than the Greeks had so of course the costs were low.

I had an ACL replaced on the other hand. Back then it was just no more ACL to hold my knee together.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The cost of medical care has skyrocketed, just not because of greedy insurance companies, but also because of the nature of technology and investment in research

The western nations have shown all of that can be reduced dramatically, access opened, longer healthiness and longevity as the product.