[OFFICIAL] USMB Post Debate Poll/Thursday 10-16

[paulitician]

Now that the debate is over, who won and did it make you finally choose a candidate?

If you have already decided on a candidate please just choose a winner.


**Thread will open immediately after the debates**

Today's Gallop poll (after the second debate) has Romney surging by 7 points.

A new national poll that includes one day of polling data after the second presidential debate shows Republican Mitt Romney with his biggest lead to date.

Romney has surged to a 7-point lead over President Obama among likely voters, according to Gallup’s latest daily tracking poll.

Romney received 52 percent of the votes compared to 45 percent for Obama; Romney also led 48 percent to 47 when registered voters were surveyed.

Thursday's Gallup poll shows Romney with 7-point lead - Tampa Bay Tampa Top News | Examiner.com


It appears that everyone is losing interest in our high school "Prom King" President--who can deliver a darn good speech--written by someone else--that he can read off of a teleprompter. They're much more interested in SUBSTANCE and SOLUTIONS than they've ever been before.

Anyone who has watched the 1st and 2nd Presidential debate--realizes now what a LEADER looks like--and it sure isn't Barry. The "glitter is gone" from our celebrity--community organizer President."

The Frank Luntz focus group of former Obama voters--(mainly democrats) spells a landslide victory for Mitt Romney. DEMOCRATS ARE MOVING TO THE ROMNEY COLUMN QUICKLY. Here is the video of that focus group--(former Obama voters) and what they had to say after the second debate.
Video: Luntz focus group unloads on Obama after debate « Hot Air

"Barack Obama is the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American population"--Clint Eastwood.

Wait till the Gays, the Blacks, the Hispanics, The young women, folks working two jobs, those drawing welfare checks, the seniors on social security, Medicaid and/or Medicare show up at the polls. You folks forget that a lot of people in this country don't have computers and you assume that what you see here is a relative sample. Ain't no way!

Yes, Romney should do very well. Most Americans have suffered immensely under Obama. His time is probably up.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wait till the Gays, the Blacks, the Hispanics, The young women, folks working two jobs, those drawing welfare checks, the seniors on social security, Medicaid and/or Medicare show up at the polls. You folks forget that a lot of people in this country don't have computers and you assume that what you see here is a relative sample. Ain't no way!

Romney fully acknowledged that the 47% who pay no taxes will vote for Obama, if they vote. The other 53% will vote for Mitt, and we WILL vote.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Teh Gays dont have computers ?

Dirty little secret, gays often are conservative, since many have good jobs, pay taxes, have houses, and investments.

 

[Foxfyre]

Teh Gays dont have computer s ?

Dirty little secret, gays often are conservative, since many have good jobs, pay taxes, have houses, and investments.

It is true, at least based on the last time I looked at the demographics, that gay people overall tend to be somewhat more affluent than the general population. I know our neighbors--a great gay couple--are supporting the Republican for both Senate and for our House representative. I haven't asked, but I would guess that they will probably also vote for Romney. I can't believe that all or even most gay people vote purely on so-called "gay issues" any more that all or most of us women vote purely on so-called "women issues" but many, maybe most, of us support the candidate who we believe will do the best job for the country.

 

[Article 15]

Love the fact that this poll shows the right/left demographics of this posting board.

Lots more righties than lefties posting here.

Can't say I'm surprised though.

I actually think it is indicative of our country as a whole

 

[Article 15]

Wait till the Gays, the Blacks, the Hispanics, The young women, folks working two jobs, those drawing welfare checks, the seniors on social security, Medicaid and/or Medicare show up at the polls. You folks forget that a lot of people in this country don't have computers and you assume that what you see here is a relative sample. Ain't no way!

Romney fully acknowledged that the 47% who pay no taxes will vote for Obama, if they vote. The other 53% will vote for Mitt, and we WILL vote.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nov. 7th is going to be a very hard day for you.

Are you planning to riot?

 

[ScienceRocks]

A chance for Obama to explain his self for all his fuck ups.


Read all about it...Obama spins and lies!!!!


Time line of lies!

Obama's Benghazi Lies - Home

Destroys Obama's case. It wasn't about a fucking terrorist attack, BUT the protest over our freedom of speech.

On the 13th he was talking about the protest when he said terrorized.

Susan Rice said on the 16th that this wasn't a pre-planned attack. LIES

On the 18th Obama went on the letterman show and blamed our first amendment for the attack. LIES!!!

If the terrorized was supposed to mean a terrorist attack. Well, Obama sure inserted his foot in his ass.

Clinton on the 21st was the first to say it was a Terrorist attack. SPIN!

Obama on the view on the 25th said it was about the fucking video! Spin some more!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD4a9GHBF_U&feature=related]Carney maintains Libya attack was not preplanned - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPzjayOh-PU&feature=relmfu]Who is responsible for the attack in Benghazi? - YouTube[/ame]




Biden blatantly lied about Chris Stevens wanting more Security
The Fact Checker


“We weren’t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security.”

— Biden, speaking of the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya

Biden’s bold statement was directly contradicted by State Department officials just this week, in testimony before a congressional panel and in unclassified cables released by a congressional committee.

“All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,” said Eric Nordstrom, the top regional security officer in Libya earlier this year. A Utah national guardsman who led a security team, Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, said: “We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met.”



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxjz5wEcF0]September 12, 2012 - President Obama Speaks on Libya Attacks that killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens - YouTube[/ame]

@ 5:00-6:20 you can hear the context in which he mentioned terrorism, Romney was correct in his assertation as, in context, Obama was referring to terrorism in general and not specifically the attack
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Candy wasn't even right here as Obama said "terror" in the context of the protest.



Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror
Breitbart ^ | 17 Oct 2012, 3:44 AM PDT | Tony Lee
Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror'

On CNN's "State of the Union" on September 30, Candy Crowley insisted David Axelrod, President Barack Obama's chief strategist, was wrong when Axelrod tried to claim President Barack Obama called the Benghazi attack "an act of terror" on the day after.
"First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape," Crowley said when Axelrod tried to spin her.
This was Crowley the journalist, unlike the pro-Obama advocate who moderated Tuesday's debate between Obama and Mitt Romney and interjected herself into an argument between Obama and Romney on the exact same issue -- and took Obama's side.
During the debate, Crowley affirmed Obama's assertion that he referred to the Benghazi attacks as acts of terror on the day after.
After Romney correctly said it took Obama 14 days before Obama said the the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror, Crowley took Obama's side -- to an ovation from the town hall audience -- and she proclaimed Obama had indeed claimed the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror the day after the attacks in the White House Rose Garden.
On September 12, the day after the attacks, Obama did say the words "acts of terror" but he was not referring to the attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.
Crowley knew that on September 30 and she conceded it again hours after the debate when she went on CNN and said while Romney "was right in the main, but he just chose the wrong word." But the damage had already been done.
With Obama's reelection on the line, Crowley seemed to have conveniently forgotten the facts she knew two weeks before when she grilled Axelrod in a way she should have Obama.

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Yet we learn today that Stevens was begging for months for security??? WTF is wrong with the Obama Admin. If you leftist had any honor you wouldn't vote for Obama.


Documents show Stevens worried about Libya security threats, Al Qaeda before consulate attack
Fox News ^ | 10-19-2012 | James Rosen
Documents show Stevens worried about Libya security threats, Al Qaeda before consulate attack | Fox News

Across 166 pages of internal State Department documents -- released Friday by a pair of Republican congressmen pressing the Obama administration for more answers on the Benghazi terrorist attack -- slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the security officers assigned to protect him repeatedly sounded alarms to their superiors in Washington about the intensifying lawlessness and violence in Eastern Libya, where Stevens ultimately died.

On Sept. 11 -- the day Stevens and three other Americans were killed -- the ambassador signed a three-page cable, labeled "sensitive," in which he noted "growing problems with security" in Benghazi and "growing frustration" on the part of local residents with Libyan police and security forces. These forces the ambassador characterized as "too weak to keep the country secure."

 

[Dr.House]

Nov. 7th is going to be a very hard day for you.

Are you planning to riot?

Gonna be hard for him to riot while bawling his eyes out...

Maybe his life-partner will comfort him...

 

[Article 15]

Nov. 7th is going to be a very hard day for you.

Are you planning to riot?

Gonna be hard for him to riot while bawling his eyes out...

Maybe his life-partner will comfort him...

Meanwhile, in reality, Obama is still ahead in this election and you are on your way to losing your sig and avatar for 8 weeks of my choosing.

 

[Dr.House]

Nov. 7th is going to be a very hard day for you.

Are you planning to riot?

Gonna be hard for him to riot while bawling his eyes out...

Maybe his life-partner will comfort him...

Meanwhile, in reality, Obama is still ahead in this election and you are on your way to losing your sig and avatar for 8 weeks of my choosing.

 

[Article 15]

Gonna be hard for him to riot while bawling his eyes out...

Maybe his life-partner will comfort him...

Meanwhile, in reality, Obama is still ahead in this election and you are on your way to losing your sig and avatar for 8 weeks of my choosing.

You're definitely going to need all the booze you can get your hands on, that's for sure, ya unoriginal piece of repeating shit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You're definitely going to need all the booze you can get your hands on, that's for sure, ya unoriginal piece of repeating shit.

Now see what you did there? When I just repped House, I remarked that your life partner is probably a fifth of gin.

And here you go confirming it!

 

[Dr.House]

Poor Ardickless15... I've already got a few Avy's and sigs picked out for him for opportune times throughout the year...

Can't wait to spring the first one...

I'll be bumping his posts for weeks....

 

[Foxfyre]

Pulled from Matthew's really wordy but accurate post:

Across 166 pages of internal State Department documents -- released Friday by a pair of Republican congressmen pressing the Obama administration for more answers on the Benghazi terrorist attack -- slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the security officers assigned to protect him repeatedly sounded alarms to their superiors in Washington about the intensifying lawlessness and violence in Eastern Libya, where Stevens ultimately died.

On Sept. 11 -- the day Stevens and three other Americans were killed -- the ambassador signed a three-page cable, labeled "sensitive," in which he noted "growing problems with security" in Benghazi and "growing frustration" on the part of local residents with Libyan police and security forces. These forces the ambassador characterized as "too weak to keep the country secure."
Documents show Stevens worried about Libya security threats, Al Qaeda before consulate attack | Fox News

And this, it appears, has become the "October surprise" for the 2012 election cycle. Despite Obama, his operatives, and the surrogate media's best attempts to make us believe it was an offensive video and nothing else that caused the death of 4 consulate employees and injury to up to 30 more, despite the Administration attempting to make his admirer's believe he didn't have access to the information and that he acted prudently, expeditiously, and appropriately, and despite Obama's worshippers continue drumbeat that none of it matters, it is the story that won't go away.

Fox News, whatever you think of Fox News, is keeping it at the top of news where it belongs--we deserve to know what lengths our elected leaders will go to deceive us--and the underground media, internet centers, and message boards are making sure that those who don't watch Fox are also informed.

Will it affect Mondy night's debate? Depends on how partisan the moderator is. If he is responsible it will come up in a foreign policy debate. If he is in bed with Obama all the way, he won't bring it up.

It was the most talked about issue from the previous debate.


Will it affect the vote in two weeks and three days? I bet it affects the vote of at least some of the family members who now know their President totally lied to them.

 

[oreo]

Today's Gallop poll (after the second debate) has Romney surging by 7 points.


Thursday's Gallup poll shows Romney with 7-point lead - Tampa Bay Tampa Top News | Examiner.com


It appears that everyone is losing interest in our high school "Prom King" President--who can deliver a darn good speech--written by someone else--that he can read off of a teleprompter. They're much more interested in SUBSTANCE and SOLUTIONS than they've ever been before.

Anyone who has watched the 1st and 2nd Presidential debate--realizes now what a LEADER looks like--and it sure isn't Barry. The "glitter is gone" from our celebrity--community organizer President."

The Frank Luntz focus group of former Obama voters--(mainly democrats) spells a landslide victory for Mitt Romney. DEMOCRATS ARE MOVING TO THE ROMNEY COLUMN QUICKLY. Here is the video of that focus group--(former Obama voters) and what they had to say after the second debate.
Video: Luntz focus group unloads on Obama after debate « Hot Air

"Barack Obama is the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American population"--Clint Eastwood.

Wait till the Gays, the Blacks, the Hispanics, The young women, folks working two jobs, those drawing welfare checks, the seniors on social security, Medicaid and/or Medicare show up at the polls. You folks forget that a lot of people in this country don't have computers and you assume that what you see here is a relative sample. Ain't no way!

Yes, Romney should do very well. Most Americans have suffered immensely under Obama. His time is probably up.

It's already over. Gallop national polling is showing Romney leading Obama by 7 points--but more importantly Romney is at 52%. Historically at this late date in the election cycle a 50% showing for the challenger spells disaster for the incumbent.

Then look what's happening in these swing states. Suffolk University already pulled out of 3 swing states right after the 1st debate calling them for Romney.

Suffolk University pollster David Paleologos, whose polls are aggregated into mainstream averages to show where the presidential race stands in the swing states, said he’s finished polling in Florida, North Carolina and Virginia because President Obama has no shot of winning those states.

“I think in places like North Carolina, Virginia and Florida, we’ve already painted those red, we’re not polling any of those states again,” Paleologos said Tuesday night on Fox’s "The O’Reilly Factor." “We’re focusing on the remaining states.”

Pollster pulls out of Fla., NC and Va., says Obama can

Then the SURPRISES--like Pennsylvania:

A new poll shows Republican Mitt Romney leading in Pennsylvania, a state that Republicans had all but written off just weeks ago but which is now listed as a toss up by the Real Clear Politics website.

Susquehanna Polling and Research provided The Washington Examiner with a poll it conducted for state party officials that shows Romney with a 49 percent to 45 percent lead over President Obama.

It's the first poll to show Romney leading among likely voters in the Keystone State.

"The polling is very clear that the race is certainly up for grabs and Republicans have a tendency to never believe it," Susquehanna President James Lee told The Examiner.

Romney isn't spending much time or money in Pennsylvania, which hasn't backed a Republican presidential candidate since 1988.

Poll shows Romney leading in blue Pennsylvania | WashingtonExaminer.com

I think we're starting to see the making of what may be reminiscent of "Custer's Last Stand"--for Barack Obama.

 

[Autonomy]

Just some words from someone who cared more than the masses ever will.



In our election-obsessed culture, everything else going on in the world - war, hunger, official brutality, sickness, the violence of everyday life for huge numbers of people - is swept out of the way while the media covers every volley of the candidates. Thus, the superficial crowds out the meaningful, and this is very useful for those who do not want citizens to look beyond the surface of the system. Hidden by the contest of the candidates are the real issues of race, class, war, and peace, which the public is not supposed to think about.
...
The ferocity of the contest for the presidency in recent elections conceals the agreement between both parties on fundamentals. The evidence for this statement lies in eight years of the Clinton-Gore administration, whose major legislative accomplishments - destroying welfare, imposing more punitive sentences on criminals, increasing Pentagon spending - were part of the Republican agenda.

The Demacrats and the Republicans do not dispute the continued corporate control of the economy. Neither party endorses free national healthcare, proposes extensive low-cost housing, demands a minimum income for all Americans, or supports a truly progressive income tax to diminish the huge gap between rich and poor. Both support the death penalty and growth of prisons. Both believe in a large military establishment, in land mines and nuclear weapons and the cruel use of sanctions against the people of Cuba.

Perhaps when, after the next election, the furor dies down over who really won the tennis match and we get over our anger at the referee's calls and the final, disputed score, we will finally break the hypnotic spell of the game and look around. We may then think about whether the ship is slowly going down and whether there are enough lifeboats and what we should do about all that.

Howard Zinn

 

[BreezeWood]

Gallup: Obama won the second debate - POLITICO.com


In the poll, taken Wednesday and Thursday, 51 percent of those surveyed said Obama won, compared with 38 percent for Romney. After the first debate, 72 percent said Romney won, compared with 20 percent who said Obama won.

Obama succeeded in the second debate in stopping Romney's momentum - Romney will have the more difficult task in the 3rd debate.

 

[paulitician]

Wait till the Gays, the Blacks, the Hispanics, The young women, folks working two jobs, those drawing welfare checks, the seniors on social security, Medicaid and/or Medicare show up at the polls. You folks forget that a lot of people in this country don't have computers and you assume that what you see here is a relative sample. Ain't no way!

Yes, Romney should do very well. Most Americans have suffered immensely under Obama. His time is probably up.

It's already over. Gallop national polling is showing Romney leading Obama by 7 points--but more importantly Romney is at 52%. Historically at this late date in the election cycle a 50% showing for the challenger spells disaster for the incumbent.

Then look what's happening in these swing states. Suffolk University already pulled out of 3 swing states right after the 1st debate calling them for Romney.

Suffolk University pollster David Paleologos, whose polls are aggregated into mainstream averages to show where the presidential race stands in the swing states, said he’s finished polling in Florida, North Carolina and Virginia because President Obama has no shot of winning those states.

“I think in places like North Carolina, Virginia and Florida, we’ve already painted those red, we’re not polling any of those states again,” Paleologos said Tuesday night on Fox’s "The O’Reilly Factor." “We’re focusing on the remaining states.”

Pollster pulls out of Fla., NC and Va., says Obama can

Then the SURPRISES--like Pennsylvania:

A new poll shows Republican Mitt Romney leading in Pennsylvania, a state that Republicans had all but written off just weeks ago but which is now listed as a toss up by the Real Clear Politics website.

Susquehanna Polling and Research provided The Washington Examiner with a poll it conducted for state party officials that shows Romney with a 49 percent to 45 percent lead over President Obama.

It's the first poll to show Romney leading among likely voters in the Keystone State.

"The polling is very clear that the race is certainly up for grabs and Republicans have a tendency to never believe it," Susquehanna President James Lee told The Examiner.

Romney isn't spending much time or money in Pennsylvania, which hasn't backed a Republican presidential candidate since 1988.

Poll shows Romney leading in blue Pennsylvania | WashingtonExaminer.com

I think we're starting to see the making of what may be reminiscent of "Custer's Last Stand"--for Barack Obama.

Yeah, it's looking good for Romney. But i'm always very cautious. Anything can happen. And not to rain on your parade, but Gallup has been known to be way off. I go with Rasmussen & Pew. And they're calling it very close. I have to agree with them. But hey, Romney supporters should be excited. Romney has shocked the Obamabots. He is a very formidable Candidate. They just didn't see that coming.

 

[kaaazuo]

Yeah, it's looking good for Romney. But i'm always very cautious. Anything can happen. And not to rain on your parade, but Gallup has been known to be way off. I go with Rasmussen & Pew. And they're calling it very close. I have to agree with them. But hey, Romney supporters should be excited. Romney has shocked the Obamabots. He is a very formidable Candidate. They just didn't see that coming.

You'd have to applaud Obama for pulling off posing as the President of the United States for nearly 4 years. He did a credible job. None of us could have done as well.