Office of the Medicare Actuary and ObamaCare Lies

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    This can fall under many topics: Health care, media

    Listening to Rush while driving around today. He mentioned that the Medicare Actuary took the extraordinary step of contradicting the opinions of the Trustees in the recent Report on Medicare.

    Who are the Trustees?

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue and Medicare Administrator Donald Berwick

    They reported that thanks to ObamaCare, the Medicare hospital insurance fund will be solvent until 2029.

    The Office of the Medicare Actuary lambasted them for their "implausible" predictions.

    Can you imagine reading a Berkshire Hathaway Annual Report only to have the auditor conclude, "He's Lying to you! Don't believe a word of it!!"?

    Not that I watch TV, but I listen to the radio, and of course, the only person to mention it today was Rush.

    Medicare?s hazy outlook - International Business Times
     
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    Obama appointed Berwick without any Senate oversight. Now do you see why?
     
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    remember, the health care mandate is definitely not a tax. obama told us so.

    unless of course, his lawyers need it to be considered a tax in order to be legal.
     
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    I can't wait for David Ploffe's guy Greenbeard to tell us why Berwick is correct
     
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    From your article:

    Oh no! The Medicare Actuary is in on it! Look at him, aiding and abetting those lying liars by agreeing that their conclusions are exactly what they should be under the Trustees' charge. And the audacity of them coming out and admitting the uncertainty in their estimates right in the report ("We recommend that the projections be interpreted as an illustration of the very favorable financial outcomes that would be experienced if the productivity adjustments can be sustained in the long range-and we caution readers to recognize the great uncertainty associated with achieving this outcome," the trustees' said.).

    Sickening!
     
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    Why anyone believes any Estimate anyone in our government puts out. Is beyond me.
     
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    If the Trustees projection come to pass, sickening will be the least of it.

    The budgeted a 30% REDUCTION in what Medicare will pay doctors and Medicare's Chief Actuary, Richard Foster, called "implausible."

    "Congress is very likely to legislatively override or otherwise modify the reductions in the future to ensure that Medicare beneficiaries continue to have access to health care services"

    "The actuary's office noted that Congress has overridden reductions in pay for Medicare physicians every year for the last seven and will probably do so again, or face the prospect of hundreds of doctors dropping out of the program and hundreds of thousands of constituents being upset."

    So the "Trustees" gave us a plan that if we were buying an apartment building, would project great cash flows because we would no longer pay the utilities or the maintenance contracts.

    That's borderline fraud.
     
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    It is simple, They put stuff in, like a 30% reduction to lower the cost, knowing they will never actually do the 30% reduction. It is a straight up lie. They know they can't cut the doctors payout by 30%, the doctors bearly make shit already when servicing medicare patients. That is part of the reason for the sky rocketing costs of health Care. Doctors and hospitals and Drug Companies jack the prices up on the rest of us, to pay for all the Medicare work they Have to do at reduced rates. Cutting their Pay outs by 30% would only increase costs for the rest of us. that is why it is not plausible.

    Just like they supposedly paid for this last 26 Billion dollar State Bail out in part by taking 12 Billion from food Stamps in 2014. You damn well know Between now and then they will reinstate that 12 Billion for Food Stamps in 2014. Another lie meant to make us think they are not spending money we do not have, when they have NO INTENTIONS of living up to the cut in 2014.

    Democrats are the party of Deception. Period.
     
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    Let's try again: 1) the Trustees' report must be based on current law, and 2) the SGR formula remains current law (despite attempts to change that).

    Whose idea was the SGR formula, one wonders? Who passed it into law? Here's a hint: it wasn't the Democrats.
     
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    "Congress is very likely to legislatively override or otherwise modify the reductions in the future to ensure that Medicare beneficiaries continue to have access to health care services" -- or maybe not?!!

    Wait a second, maybe I've got it all wrong!! Maybe they are they projecting a robust Eugenics Program, where the Elderly, Veterans and Immigrants who got here legally and remember what the process was get dispatched?

    That fits the 30% reduction and it activate the Obama Eugenicists
     
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