Offensive TV ads

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    I'm really offended by the NCME ads on tv that push students to study algebra and other mathematics in school. It is admirable that these ads encourage school students to study math, but they do so by trampling on and belittling an entire class of working people to get their message across. Basically, in the setting of these ads, two co-workers in an office meet at the coffee station. They begin chatting and it soon becomes clear that one of them is a top executive while the other is a secretary or receptionist. Several put-downs are leveled at the secretary, implying that he/she is uneducated, never studied math and performs only "trivial office tasks" such as filing and getting coffee for others "above" him or her. Having worked as a secretary and receptionist, and having a mother who did the same thing, I am greatly offended at the stereotypes presented in these ads. I also resent the implication that one is an uneducated, "ignorant flunkie" if they work as a secretary/receptionist. I also believe that these ads send the message that it is okay to put down anyone who works as a secretary/receptionist, treating them as if they were some "trained monkey" or other lower life form, instead of human beings who perform a vital service to companies and society in general. (What office doesn't have a secretary?) Apparently, it is okay for an educational-related organization such as the NCME to practice bigotry and prejudice against ordinary, working-class people such as secretaries, but God forbid they do or say anything racist, for example! Just another liberal organization full of hypocrisy, I guess. (P.S. - I have a degree in education and studied math!)
     
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    I have never seen that commercial but I think that's a horrible commercial. Whatever it's point, it seems to have missed the first rule of education which is to support rather than to attack. It surely isn't the only offensive commercial out there I'm afraid.
     
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    Very well put indeed!
     
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    I think it's admirable that the ad is honest. People in these roles ARE treated like crap. Right or wrong. It's the truth. Why do you hate depictions of truth?
     
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    Having not seen the commercial I can't really say. From the description of it, it didn't seem to be saying "look, get educated because otherwise you'll be treated like crap" The description was more like "becuase you are uneducated you deserve to be treated like crap" And that, my friend, is a load of crap.
     
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    Because, my friend, it is NOT the truth. There are people out there who know how to behave in a kind and civilized manner towards people, no matter WHAT type of work they are doing. It is also NOT true that all secretarys and receptionists are uneducated bimbos and have not studied math, as this ad seems to imply. I am offended by this ad in particular because I have a degree in education, and this ad is produced by an educational organization. I have also worked as a secretary. I find this ad SHAMEFUL for the messages it sends. We are SO careful to be so politically "correct" in our schools. We preach "diversity", "tolerance", "kindness" , etc., EXCEPT, it appears, when it comes to "certain people". If you hold a blue-collar job or believe in certain religious values, for example, then it's okay to stomp all over you, "tolerance" and "kindness" be damned! Believe me, I experienced this first hand as a teacher in the schools! You should hear how some educators talk about plumbers, let alone parents! We as educators, and as members of educational organizations like NCME, have the capacity to instill certain values in the children who are entrusted to our care. We can teach them to treat others like CRAP based on what they do for a living, or we can teach them to RESPECT others based on the fact that they are HUMAN BEINGS with feelings, hopes and dreams like the rest of us. This NCME ad had the choice to get their message across without stomping on a whole class of working people to do so.
     
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    I haven't seen the ad. But my gut reaction is one of distaste.

    I respect anyone who does an honest job well, no matter what it is.

    There are better ways to promote education without belittling the honest work of others.
     
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    LoudBeagle,
    I wonder if you're hypersensitive. These types of support positions are less demanding and do not push a person to use all his abilities to his fullest. That's not to say anything bad about people working these jobs, but somewhere inside, behind all the rationalizations and condemnations of a society which doesn't worship mediocrity, they must secretly yearn for "better". And like I said, right or wrong, many times people in these roles ARE disrespected by "professionals". So is it better to teach people to strive for better, or to accept mediocrity?

    If you don't believe me, ask yourself this question: How come noone ever says they want to be an administrative assistant when they grow up?
     
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    RWA,

    I disagree. Being a good secretary can be an extremely demanding job. Early in my career, I was an admin assistant for a year while going to night school for my MBA. I had a team of managers that I had to juggle, and it was not easy. I've also had one excellent AA who reported to me for a few years - I trusted her so much she was like an extension of myself. She handled a great many issues on her own and freed me up to focus on other priorities.
     
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    While I admit that there is a valid argument for encouraging people to strive for the best they can be, does that mean you can belittle those who are other than yourself? Isn't striving for the best also accepting, gracefully, that no everyone was born to be a brain surgeon or nuclear physicist? Why would someone's profession relegate them to being the butt of someone else's jokes? If that's what "better" means, hell, I hope we have a country full of mediocrity.
     

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