Obama's agenda: Trickle up poverty, any discussion?

[ABikerSailor]

i've never heard obama mention the poor since i've know about him. only the middle class, and taking from the rich.

europe is finding out now that they are paying into a common fund, to support the losers, and the lazy. i'm just sitting in the sun enjoying some wine and some cheese (ask odball)
the rich have been supporting the poor and mediocre since "day one" in this country.
democrats want a pool house at the restaurant, the shiitty servers get paid the same as communism.

The ground work Obama is laying is Marxist, and to be honest he has not tried hard to hide it. Obama took a budget that was doing the jobs and has added 3 trillion dollars of debt to it in 2 years
Higher taxes are not if, its when
Add gas. Like I said states collect sales tax on fuel as a %. do not under estimate how much Obama's green policy along with not allowing any drilling or oil shale exploration/extraction is a deliberate maneuver to put the middle class to the level in which they become part of the impoverished, to become wholly or partially Dependant on BHO inc.
Health-care becomes socialized, single payer system
Fuel is rationed and price is controlled
wealth is redistributed more than it is now
work weeks become 35 hours long
pick up trucks will be replaced by Chevy volts and your home will have white roof with solar panels on top.
kidding?

Obama gave the UAW 50 billion dollars without asking the tax payer
Obama/Pelosi/Reid rammed Obama care down the congresses throat with 60% of the people against it
what happened to the stimulus money/ the tax cuts where welcomed, but what happened to the cash?
Why did GWB use a stimulus to give the tax payer back some wealth and Obama decided who and what he would stimulate?
Think about that a minute

Actually.......it's the GOP dirtbags in the Congress who are trying to give tax breaks to corporations and the top 2 percent of the wealthy, while paying for it on the backs of the common workers and labor unions.

Oh yeah.......don't forget the poor.......they have to pay their fair share too, right?

The only things that tax breaks for the wealthy do is give them more money to invest in Wall St. For every dollar you give to the uber rich, you get back 1.03 on the economy (they invest, not create jobs). If you give that same dollar to those on unemployment, welfare and tax breaks for the middle class down? It generates 1.63 for the economy.

Surely even you stupid capitalists can understand that.

 

[Eric Cartman]

helping Brazil drill baby drill while this country keep millions without work and trillions in wealth locked down.


"Never allow a serious crises go to waste"

American companies sitting on 2 trillion dollars in capital is why the jobs have appeared.

 

[ABikerSailor]

helping Brazil drill baby drill while this country keep millions without work and trillions in wealth locked down.


"Never allow a serious crises go to waste"

American companies sitting on 2 trillion dollars in capital is why the jobs have appeared.

Yep. Can't invest money in Wall St. for obscene profits if you're using it to pay people to work.

 

[washamericom]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

you forgot baby killer trotsky. democrats kill babies

 

[washamericom]

Commies and Fascists hate Unions. But then again..so do Monarchists and Theocrats.

you otta know.....
you can't force them to invest, and you can't just take it from them and that's killing you. libs want eminent domain of everyone's bank account, that's why your socialist freak president is failing so miserably. it's not my money, i'll pass it around.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

So your saying we'll be working seven days a week,with no benefits,unsafe working conditions and no overtime?
And we'll be putting little johnny to work?

Talk about useing fear tactics......thats the biggest line of shit I have ever heard.

 

[washamericom]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

So your saying we'll be working seven days a week,with no benefits,unsafe working conditions and no overtime?
And we'll be putting little johnny to work?

Talk about useing fear tactics......thats the biggest line of shit I have ever heard.

something's gotta give

 

[Sallow]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

So your saying we'll be working seven days a week,with no benefits,unsafe working conditions and no overtime?
And we'll be putting little johnny to work?

Talk about useing fear tactics......thats the biggest line of shit I have ever heard.

That's exactly the way it was in this country prior to Unions.

And..here's another kicker. We had slavery too.

Man you kids need to crack a book every so often and stay off the PS3s and Xboxes.

 

[Sallow]

Commies and Fascists hate Unions. But then again..so do Monarchists and Theocrats.

you otta know.....
you can't force them to invest, and you can't just take it from them and that's killing you. libs want eminent domain of everyone's bank account, that's why your socialist freak president is failing so miserably. it's not my money, i'll pass it around.

This makes no sense.

Was it suppose too?

 

[Sallow]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

you forgot baby killer trotsky. democrats kill babies

Baby killer?

Is this a WWI yellowdog journalism thing? The huns coming?

 

[washamericom]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

you forgot baby killer trotsky. democrats kill babies

Baby killer?

Is this a WWI yellowdog journalism thing? The huns coming?

that's right stalin, did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbo?r. you want woodrow wilson to come back to life. america will never go socialist. LOL we don't need unions anymore. trotsky

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Oh gosh.

The Corporate Quislings are toadying the Corporatist Conservative line again.

Fact is they've been destroying protections for labor for some time now. And they are going after the last remenants of what's left. Pretty soon they will eviscerate all the laws that once gave us such things as weekends, safe working conditions, overtime, protections against child labor and much more. The Supreme Court assured that with the Citizen's United case.

So your saying we'll be working seven days a week,with no benefits,unsafe working conditions and no overtime?
And we'll be putting little johnny to work?

Talk about useing fear tactics......thats the biggest line of shit I have ever heard.

That's exactly the way it was in this country prior to Unions.

And..here's another kicker. We had slavery too.

Man you kids need to crack a book every so often and stay off the PS3s and Xboxes.

Kid ? Yeah OK junior.
How it "was"..... when's the last time you saw a slave auction?
You afraid were going to go back to burning witchs to?
Yeah lets bring up ancient history and apply it to modern times.
Thats the worst argument for unions i've ever heard.

Oh and I read 3-5 five books a week......bet you cant say the same. Without lying....

 

[JRK]

you forgot baby killer trotsky. democrats kill babies

Baby killer?

Is this a WWI yellowdog journalism thing? The huns coming?

that's right stalin, did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbo?r. you want woodrow wilson to come back to life. america will never go socialist. LOL we don't need unions anymore. trotsky

I respect your opinion but we are as close as Obama can get us there ( a socialist country)
The day our president goes into the US treasury and pulls out 50 billion dollars so the UAW will not lose there retirement without the approval of the U.S. congress, thats pretty close

The massive deficit only means we, the working class, will have massive tax hikes in our future
Work weeks?
No
Govt run health care?
yes, its coming

Ans Unions? in the trades there place is not only needed , but a place I firmly support. The difference in the NEA, UAW etc... and the pipe-fitters union is night and day. The trades take care of there own for the most part and do not rely on my tax dollars to fund there retirement (directly anyway)

In addition what the press does to the truth in this country is a crime in its self. they single handle y got Obama elected. Paranoid? in 2004 CBS took a document that a entry level document expert could have seen it was a fake
18 months of negotiations after 9-11 and debate on Iraq with most everything Bush said was the reasons we went coming true went to that to W Lied, People died"

any way
Have a good day

 

[washamericom]

Baby killer?

Is this a WWI yellowdog journalism thing? The huns coming?

that's right stalin, did we give up when the germans bombed pearl harbo?r. you want woodrow wilson to come back to life. america will never go socialist. LOL we don't need unions anymore. trotsky

I respect your opinion but we are as close as Obama can get us there ( a socialist country)
The day our president goes into the US treasury and pulls out 50 billion dollars so the UAW will not lose there retirement without the approval of the U.S. congress, thats pretty close

The massive deficit only means we, the working class, will have massive tax hikes in our future
Work weeks?
No
Govt run health care?
yes, its coming

Ans Unions? in the trades there place is not only needed , but a place I firmly support. The difference in the NEA, UAW etc... and the pipe-fitters union is night and day. The trades take care of there own for the most part and do not rely on my tax dollars to fund there retirement (directly anyway)

In addition what the press does to the truth in this country is a crime in its self. they single handle y got Obama elected. Paranoid? in 2004 CBS took a document that a entry level document expert could have seen it was a fake
18 months of negotiations after 9-11 and debate on Iraq with most everything Bush said was the reasons we went coming true went to that to W Lied, People died"

any way
Have a good day

this is pretty good. no gov health care. private non profit. taxes must go down, waste must be cut. which doc was a fake ? anything c.b.s is sketchy

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yanno......considering that GE paid NO INCOME TAX FOR 2010, AS WELL AS GOT A 3.5 BILLION DOLLAR TAX CREDIT, I'd say that maybe the corporations need to be taxed a bit more.

I mean, what are they doing with that money? The sure as fuck ain't creating jobs.

 

[washamericom]

Yanno......considering that GE paid NO INCOME TAX FOR 2010, AS WELL AS GOT A 3.5 BILLION DOLLAR TAX CREDIT, I'd say that maybe the corporations need to be taxed a bit more.

I mean, what are they doing with that money? The sure as fuck ain't creating jobs.

jeffeiy mmelt, barrak obama's close friend and advisor hasn't done as well as jack welch, with ge the presidents ethics are adjustable. one way for the campaign, another for the job, but maybe this is a discussion for the capital cronyism thread. i'm sure he has "saved" alot of jobs though. maybe they can cover ge my taxing the odometer in your car. atlas shrugged.
one thing i've noticed is the liberals close to me don't seem to have a problem with obama's new war. seems odd.

 

[JRK]

Yanno......considering that GE paid NO INCOME TAX FOR 2010, AS WELL AS GOT A 3.5 BILLION DOLLAR TAX CREDIT, I'd say that maybe the corporations need to be taxed a bit more.

I mean, what are they doing with that money? The sure as fuck ain't creating jobs.

jeffeiy mmelt, barrak obama's close friend and advisor hasn't done as well as jack welch, with ge the presidents ethics are adjustable. one way for the campaign, another for the job, but maybe this is a discussion for the capital cronyism thread. i'm sure he has "saved" alot of jobs though. maybe they can cover ge my taxing the odometer in your car. atlas shrugged.
one thing i've noticed is the liberals close to me don't seem to have a problem with obama's new war. seems odd.

Nor do they have a problem with tax breaks or immunity from Obama-care
trillions in debt
and as far as creating jobs he has a deficit

 

[mudwhistle]

We al know where that poverty is coming from. It is the decisions we have made over the last 30 years to grow the economy by throwing money at the wealthy

Still looking for that trickle down effect

Guess you'd better keep looking.

Btw, if you work for someone, and receive a pay-check for that work, you've been getting the trickle-down effect most of your life.

 

[jgarden]

2/3rds of US Corporations Pay Zero Federal Taxes
Mar 28, 2011

..... the tax-dodging practices of massive corporations that they see as the real source of the country's deficit.

..... Bank of America hasn't paid a nickel in federal income taxes for the past two years, and in fact raked in an additional $1 billion in tax benefits. The bank is enjoying these profits after accepting $45 billion from taxpayers, which the company then got to count as a deduction when they paid back the money.

Big corporations get to play by a whole different set of rules, says tax expert Bob Willens of New York-based Robert Willens LLC:

This is why two-thirds of corporations in America pay no federal income taxes. If they were forced to, we're told, the whole country would suffer. Jobs would be lost, salaries slashed. Thank heavens we've avoided such calamity by allowing corporations to shape legislation in their favor.

In 2010, Bank of America handed out $2.2 million in campaign contributions to Congressional representatives and PACs (36 percent went to Democrats, 64 percent to Republicans). By throwing around that much cash, huge companies like BoA have a big say when it comes to crafting legislation that permits them to escape paying taxes, according to US Uncut organizer J.A. Myerson.

The reason it's not illegal is because they have bought and paid for the people who make the laws. The laws are made to accommodate this sort of nefariousness ..... The rigged game has left citizens feeling burnt and angry .....

http://www.ocnus.net/artman2/publis...-US-Corporations-Pay-Zero-Federal-Taxes.shtml

The "system" is working exactly the way its supposed to work -

- tax cuts or no taxes at all for corporations and the wealthy despite the fact that neither have delivered on providing jobs
- "buy and pay for the people who make the laws" through campaign contributions

- provide the necessary "scapegoats" (unions, teachers, the poor) and encourage the middle and working classes to turn their anger on them as a diversion

- convince citizens that corporations and the wealthy embody "American values" and the "American Dream."

 

[Two Thumbs]

Come 2016 the policies set forth by BHO will have peoples pay checks de valued so much, many will be headed towards poverty
I am not kidding
It his intent
The more you get to depend on his kind of economy, an economy that collects my wealth and gives it to others, the more "others" that exist, the more he feels will support there agenda
Its a classic Marxist agenda.

The Rich thrive as long as the middle class survives. Taxes that are forth coming to pay for this "blame Bush" deficit and "blame Bush recession" along with the cost of Obama care and much higher gas pricing will and is as we speak destroying the middle man.

Not by accident

"never allow a serious crises to go to waste"

helping Brazil drill baby drill while this country keep millions without work and trillions in wealth locked down.
The opening of shale oil exploration along with oil exploration and drilling on public lands along with the expansion of new refineries and power producing stations does more for the working class than 10 of Obama "slush fund" Stimuluses

"Never allow a serious crises go to waste"

I never understood why we gave millions to Brazil so they can get more and better drilling gear.
Then I learned Soros bought stock in the company that will be doing the drilling.

So the fact that they, not us, will be allowed to drill off our shore is a no brainer.

And people cry about "trickle down" when obama is pissing on all of us.