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Here is what we know:
1. The rate of increase in health care costs has exceeded the rate of inflation for decades.
2. When they had all the power, the Republicans chose to do nothing about this problem. In fact, they added another trillion dollar government medical entitlement program to the problem.
3. For many years, the Democrats telegraphed exactly what they would do if given the chance.
4. Still, the Republicans did nothing.
5. The Democrats got the power and attempted to do exactly what they said they would do. However, due to Republican obstructionism, we got this abortion known as ObamaCare.
Because the Republicans completely abdicated on this issue, their whining and gnashing of teeth over ObamaCare is nothing more than theater for the rubes. They sold the American people down the river on health care into the hands of the Democrats.
A pox on both their houses!
If the average North Carolinian's insurance increase is 6 percent, and 315,000 North Carolinians' rates are going up by 13.5%, that means quite a few North Carolinians are going to see a much lower increase than 6%.
LOL. Now g5000, don't rain on their 'Blame Obama Parade'. They will start crying and wet all over themselves.
If the average North Carolinian's insurance increase is 6 percent, and 315,000 North Carolinians' rates are going up by 13.5%, that means quite a few North Carolinians are going to see an increase (if any) that is much lower than 6%.Everything that has been posted about Rates so far by ANYBODY is not telling the real story here.
They are telling us what "average" increase is over ALL of the plans and that is completely misleading.
The only numbers that matter are those that will show us not what the average increase is but what the increase is for the plans that have the most subscribers or policy holders.
Using the "average" paints a very nice picture of moderate increases......
Here is what we know:
1. The rate of increase in health care costs has exceeded the rate of inflation for decades.
2. When they had all the power, the Republicans chose to do nothing about this problem. In fact, they added another trillion dollar government medical entitlement program to the problem.
3. For many years, the Democrats telegraphed exactly what they would do if given the chance.
4. Still, the Republicans did nothing.
5. The Democrats got the power and attempted to do exactly what they said they would do. However, due to Republican obstructionism, we got this abortion known as ObamaCare.
Because the Republicans completely abdicated on this issue, their whining and gnashing of teeth over ObamaCare is nothing more than theater for the rubes. They sold the American people down the river on health care into the hands of the Democrats.
A pox on both their houses!
Well now, let's fix it. Univeral Single Payer Health Care, paid for with an increase in income taxes, applicable to all incomes, from the bottom to the top. The other nations that have this have about 1/2 the costs per citizen, with far better outcomes than we do.
Well now, let's fix it. Univeral Single Payer Health Care, paid for with an increase in income taxes, applicable to all incomes, from the bottom to the top. The other nations that have this have about 1/2 the costs per citizen, with far better outcomes than we do.
obama is the boss of the one who is in charge of the department of health and human services. Which is the department that over sees the rate incraseActually, he doesn't. Rate increases are controlled at the state level.Yes he has control of thatMaybe you can get Obama to release the rates nationally before the election?
You think Obama is in charge of rates?
Thank you for playing.
Your pride is your worst enemy g.
"Because of the law, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), along with states, is working to hold insurance companies accountable by requiring them to document, submit for review, and publicly justify rate increases of 10 percent or more.Additionally, the Affordable Care Act continues to provide states with rate review grants to enhance state efforts to review proposed increases in health insurance rates and make information and decisions about rate increases available to the public."
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Rate Review Annual Report - September 2013As it plainly states, the HHS (not Obama as bigreb believes) only gets involved when rate increases exceed 10 percent.Actually, he doesn't. Rate increases are controlled at the state level.Yes he has control of thatMaybe you can get Obama to release the rates nationally before the election?
You think Obama is in charge of rates?
Thank you for playing.
Your pride is your worst enemy g.
"Because of the law, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), along with states, is working to hold insurance companies accountable by requiring them to document, submit for review, and publicly justify rate increases of 10 percent or more.Additionally, the Affordable Care Act continues to provide states with rate review grants to enhance state efforts to review proposed increases in health insurance rates and make information and decisions about rate increases available to the public."
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Rate Review Annual Report - September 2013
Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up, it was fucked up before the ink dried on the vote count. Hell it was fucked up when the democrats push the shit.Well now, let's fix it. Univeral Single Payer Health Care, paid for with an increase in income taxes, applicable to all incomes, from the bottom to the top. The other nations that have this have about 1/2 the costs per citizen, with far better outcomes than we do.
I have frequently said that ObamaCare will prove to be such a clusterfuck that the people will cry out for single payer.
I do not see this outcome as a good thing.
But I blame the Republicans for this result as much as I blame the Democrats. After all, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Which is exactly what the Republicans did about the health care problem in America: NOTHING.
These other nations, do they have a distinct 13% of their populations that account for half the crime, half the abortions, and half the STDs?
That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up
When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up
Paid for by tax payersOne plan in one state, so read the fine print, "As an example, the insurer said a 45-year-old nonsmoking man in the Raleigh area who didn't receive subsidies would see his monthly premium rise by about $57 to $421.32 per month on a typical individual ACA silver plan. Most customers, however, receive the subsidies."
Are you being deliberately obtuse?When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up