Obamacare Rates to Rise 13.5% in 2015. Didn't Obama Promise ACA Would Lower Costs?

Even now, at this very late date, the Republicans have no comprehensive health care reform on the table.

Repeal Obamacare...AND THEN WHAT!?!?
 
Even now, at this very late date, the Republicans have no comprehensive health care reform on the table.

Repeal Obamacare...AND THEN WHAT!?!?

If the GOP candidate make the repeal of Obamacare part of his platform in 2016, without a definate plan to replace it with something better than the abortion we had prior to Obamacare, that candidate will lose.
 
Even now, at this very late date, the Republicans have no comprehensive health care reform on the table.

Repeal Obamacare...AND THEN WHAT!?!?


Make fuckers buy insurance or die!

Or, set up Charity Hospitals like we have in LA.

If the feds gave a damn about healthcare, they'd build a few hundred teaching hospitals, strategically placed in the poorer areas where they are needed.
 
No one has any idea what the Republican Party will do if they win the Senate. They are clueless. You know why?

Because they don't have a plan.

When Gingrich rode in on a tidal wave, everyone in the country knew EXACTLY what the Republicans planned to do.

How times have changed. The GOP is a pack of whiny bitches without a plan. Spineless cowards who can't think beyond "Repeal ObamaCare."


AND THEN WHAT!?!?

Nobody fucking knows.
 
One plan in one state, so read the fine print, "As an example, the insurer said a 45-year-old nonsmoking man in the Raleigh area who didn't receive subsidies would see his monthly premium rise by about $57 to $421.32 per month on a typical individual ACA silver plan. Most customers, however, receive the subsidies."
Paid for by tax payers

Yup, just as are all of your government services that you use.
 
We in the GOP are shooting ourselves in the foot on this issue.

ACA is here to stay thus we should have a plan to improve.

Yet all we have is . . . crickets.
 
Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up
That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.
When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The rising health care cost problem has been with us for decades. Are you telling me you cannot remember when Republicans had all the power during that period? Seriously?

Republican President. Republican House. Republican Senate. Conservative court. You could not ask for a more advantageous position to be in to solve problems.

Yet what did they do about the rising cost of health care outpacing inflation?

NOTHING!!!
OK dumb ass it's not the place of the government to play with the private sector Insurance. Getrich tried that back in 1998, and America said hell no.
 
Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up
That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.
When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The rising health care cost problem has been with us for decades. Are you telling me you cannot remember when Republicans had all the power during that period? Seriously?

Republican President. Republican House. Republican Senate. Conservative court. You could not ask for a more advantageous position to be in to solve problems.

Yet what did they do about the rising cost of health care outpacing inflation?

NOTHING!!!
OK dumb ass it's not the place of the government to play with the private sector Insurance. Getrich tried that back in 1998, and America said hell no.

In the case of health care, private sector insurance has amply demonstrated it's incompetance.
 
Republicans had nothing to do with this fuck up
That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.
When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The rising health care cost problem has been with us for decades. Are you telling me you cannot remember when Republicans had all the power during that period? Seriously?

Republican President. Republican House. Republican Senate. Conservative court. You could not ask for a more advantageous position to be in to solve problems.

Yet what did they do about the rising cost of health care outpacing inflation?

NOTHING!!!
OK dumb ass it's not the place of the government to play with the private sector Insurance. Getrich tried that back in 1998, and America said hell no.

In the case of health care, private sector insurance has amply demonstrated it's incompetance.
Really? How so? I've never had problem with insurance And you somehow think the government is competent to do anything?
 
That is my point. When they had all the power, the Republicans decided to do nothing about the problem, thus completely abdicating the health care problem to the Democrats when the baton was passed.
When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The rising health care cost problem has been with us for decades. Are you telling me you cannot remember when Republicans had all the power during that period? Seriously?

Republican President. Republican House. Republican Senate. Conservative court. You could not ask for a more advantageous position to be in to solve problems.

Yet what did they do about the rising cost of health care outpacing inflation?

NOTHING!!!
OK dumb ass it's not the place of the government to play with the private sector Insurance. Getrich tried that back in 1998, and America said hell no.

In the case of health care, private sector insurance has amply demonstrated it's incompetance.
Really? How so? I've never had problem with insurance And you somehow think the government is competent to do anything?
Seems most people who have problems with insurance are the irresponsible assholes who didn't buy any/enough until they needed it.

I was fine with mine for more than 40 years.

Had three kids, and all the usual health problems, and HC never put me in a financial bind.

It will now, my policy has been gutted.
 
When in the hell did the Republicans have any power when the democrats were pushing obamacare? What in the hell are you smoking?
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The rising health care cost problem has been with us for decades. Are you telling me you cannot remember when Republicans had all the power during that period? Seriously?

Republican President. Republican House. Republican Senate. Conservative court. You could not ask for a more advantageous position to be in to solve problems.

Yet what did they do about the rising cost of health care outpacing inflation?

NOTHING!!!
OK dumb ass it's not the place of the government to play with the private sector Insurance. Getrich tried that back in 1998, and America said hell no.

In the case of health care, private sector insurance has amply demonstrated it's incompetance.
Really? How so? I've never had problem with insurance And you somehow think the government is competent to do anything?
Seems most people who have problems with insurance are the irresponsible assholes who didn't buy any/enough until they needed it.

I was fine with mine for more than 40 years.

Had three kids, and all the usual health problems, and HC never put me in a financial bind.

It will now, my policy has been gutted.
Me too. I've seen the word subsidized a few times in this thread from the defenders of obamacare. It is expected that those who must pay for their own rate increase should also pay for those who can't [subsidized]
 
So here are the conservatives complaining about the cost of insurance in the exchanges,

when their plan is to repeal Obamacare, eliminate the exchanges, and leave these people with no insurance.

amazing.
 
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Well,

I know we're all shocked. :cool-45: But BCBS of North Carolina released rates for 2015 for ACA plans in their State. The rates will rise 13.5% The Obama Administration is desperately trying to keep the rate increases hidden until after the mid-term elections. Official sign ups and new rates nationally will not be available until November 15th....a full week after the election.

Funny how that turned out....isn't? :D

Please read the full story here. It should be sobering for all of us....but particularly for the dupes who voted for the lying sack of shit the Obumbler.


Blue Cross reveals 2015 health insurance rates
North Carolina's Blue Cross: 2015 rates to rise 13 percent on average for individual ACA plans

By Jonathan Drew, Associated Press 2 hours ago

  • RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- North Carolina's largest health insurer said on Wednesday that 2015 rates will rise by more than 13 percent on average for buyers of individual Affordable Care Act policies.

    Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina discussed the expected rate increases in a teleconference several weeks ahead of the Nov. 15 kickoff for the enrollment period for coverage starting in January.

    Blue Cross said rates would rise an average of 13.5 percent for 315,000 customers who enrolled this year in individual plans that comply with President Barack Obama's health insurance law. It cautioned that the actual increase for each person will be affected by factors including age, location and plan level.

    As an example, the insurer said a 45-year-old nonsmoking man in the Raleigh area who didn't receive subsidies would see his monthly premium rise by about $57 to $421.32 per month on a typical individual ACA silver plan. Most customers, however, receive the subsidies.

    "It is important for customers to understand their health care needs, update their information to get the subsidy amount they are eligible to receive and select an insurance plan with the level of coverage they want at a price that works for them and their family," said Patrick Getzen, vice president and chief actuary for Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina.

    Aside from the those policies, the insurer is maintaining pre-existing plans that don't conform to the Affordable Care Act's requirements but that customers wanted to keep. The Obama administration said in March that it was allowing a two-year extension for individual policies that don't meet the health law's requirements.

    The insurer said its rates for those pre-existing individual plans will rise by an average of 13.4 percent for policies sold before the federal law was signed by Obama in March 2010. Individual plans sold by the insurer between then and October 2013 — when the health overhaul exchanges opened — will have rate increases of 19.2 percent on average.

    Blue Cross said about 239,000 people were enrolled in those pre-existing individual plans in 2014.

    One factor affecting premiums is how costs are spread among the mixture of people of varying ages and health care needs. Blue Cross said in a news release that the group buying its individual ACA plans was older than expected because many younger, healthier customers stayed in pre-existing plans.

    "There needs to be a mix of customers within each category to balance risk and expected costs," Getzen said.

    Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina is the only insurer to offer ACA plans in all 100 of North Carolina's counties.

Interesting. 315,000 enrolled in exchange policies.

And the GOP plan is to end Obamacare and terminate their policies.
 

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