Obama up by 8......

[kane3o1]

Go Obama

 

[mdjgirl7]

You took all of that out of context. If it were such a big deal, then all the right wing media would be over this 24/7 until November 4.

However, they're not so this is old news and bullshit.

Enter another two quarters and feel free to try and play this game again though.

Oh that is rich out of context huh really. Right wing media you are a comedian don't you mean the liberal media all they have done is sing Obama's praises.

If it were left up to the media Obama would be in office right now. Have you actually been watching TV at all?

Here is some more for ya


Obama sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.

In 1999 he was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex offenders.

He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.

Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches.

Just as unsettling is his voting record on abortion.

Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.

In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fund-raising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the Country, and that the ‘so-called’ partial-birth abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.

I bet you think I took that out of context to huh. Get your head out of the sand wake up and see the writing on the wall.

 

[jillian]

Oh that is rich out of context huh really. Right wing media you are a comedian don't you mean the liberal media all they have done is sing Obama's praises.

Really? Seems to me for the first two weeks after Sarah was intro'd after the Repub convention, she had a huge honeymoon and all you heard about was how Obama didn't fight back.

If it were left up to the media Obama would be in office right now. Have you actually been watching TV at all?

Which media is that? I love when you people amuse yourselves by pretending that a huge part of media isn't right wing.

Let me know what Glen Beck, Joe Scarborough, Sean Hannity, Rusbo, Coltergeist, Malkin... and so on and so forth, had to say on the subject.

Here is some more for ya


Obama sponsored S.CON.RES.53: A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.

And?

In 1999 he was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill barring early release for (criminal) sex offenders.

Link,please... along with the statute...

He voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers and he voted for sex education for kindergarten children through the 5th grade.

Again, link please, along with the bill, since I don't believe that's exactly what the issue was ...

Also, in 2001, he voted “present” on a bill to keep pornographic book and video stores and strip clubs from setting up within 1,000 feet of schools and churches.

Link...

Just as unsettling is his voting record on abortion.

Twice, Obama voted against bills prohibiting tax funding of abortions.

Good.

In February 2004, his wife, Michelle, sent out a fund-raising letter, which actually stated her concern over the rise of conservatism in the Country, and that the ‘so-called’ partial-birth abortion was a legitimate medical procedure that should be protected.

She was correct. There is no such thing as "partial birth abortion". That is a designation made up by the anti-choice crowd to try to make it more onerous.

She was also correct in saying that the only people who should make the determination are a woman and her doctor. Such procedures are rare and only occur in the face of terrible damage to the child (like hydrocephalus) or the life of the mother.... no matter how much the religious right tries to spin it.

I bet you think I took that out of context to huh. Get your head out of the sand wake up and see the writing on the wall.

On reproductive choice? I'm sure it was in context... but you have no right to make those decisions for other people.

In fact, I'm pretty sure it's over your pay grade.

 

[Big_D]

According to real clear politics, Obama has taken the lead in Virginia. I don't know how anyone can say that McCain is going to win.

 

[mdjgirl7]

Really? Seems to me for the first two weeks after Sarah was intro'd after the Repub convention, she had a huge honeymoon and all you heard about was how Obama didn't fight back.



Which media is that? I love when you people amuse yourselves by pretending that a huge part of media isn't right wing.

Let me know what Glen Beck, Joe Scarborough, Sean Hannity, Rusbo, Coltergeist, Malkin... and so on and so forth, had to say on the subject.



And?



Link,please... along with the statute...



Again, link please, along with the bill, since I don't believe that's exactly what the issue was ...



Link...



Good.



She was correct. There is no such thing as "partial birth abortion". That is a designation made up by the anti-choice crowd to try to make it more onerous.

She was also correct in saying that the only people who should make the determination are a woman and her doctor. Such procedures are rare and only occur in the face of terrible damage to the child (like hydrocephalus) or the life of the mother.... no matter how much the religious right tries to spin it.



On reproductive choice? I'm sure it was in context... but you have no right to make those decisions for other people.

In fact, I'm pretty sure it's over your pay grade.

Just like an true Obama fan refusing to do any of your own research you want to be spoon fed.Obama likes to spoon feed his brain dead followers. God for bid you had to look up anything for yourself. You just want to believe any rubbish coming out of Obama's mouth.

As for reproductive choice that is a pretty word for murder isn't it. Let's check the facts if you kill a pregnant woman more then likely you are going to charged for 2 murders but this country has given women the right to kill their unborn child.

I beg to differ with you I have every right to defend the innocent who cannot speak for themselves it is called freedom of speech.

Oh yes I am quite sure the ONLY late term abortions are for some poor disabled child the mother does not want to deal with. Since partial birth abortion IS legal in this country who makes the call when it is too late? The mother?

I remember years ago watching a talk show Phil Donahue a young Hispanic woman was part of the topic of abortion. This young woman was holding a child who had no arms bet you can guess why. This woman had attempted to get an abortion the doctor assured her he had performed the murder but instead he had just ripped her arms off. The baby was born healthy but with no arms. I am sureeee that has NEVER happened again. I personally was appalled. I wanted to hunt that idiot down and rip his arms off.

But I am suree there are no more of these horror stories out there. Yeah right.

I hear you choice I am all about choice the woman's choice was when she decided to have sex that was her choice. Now the baby has a right to live. I hear you rape blah blah blah. I by no means condone rape but is this the baby's fault hmmm nope. We have millions of people waiting to adopt. I know a lady right now that was the victim of rape and she was impregnated by her rapist. Did she abort no she did not she gave her son life and he is the light of her world she adores him. Something beautiful come out of something horrific. I applaud her bravery! I am not saying all women can raise their children but you know now you can just drop off a baby at the hospital with no questions asked there is no excuse to murder a child.

Another scene you might be interested in. I have a friend who's father had many strokes and he lived with her. He could still get around but he needed constant supervision. Anyway he fell and broke his neck the doctors felt like he was too combative to do surgery so they elected to put him in a straight jacket and pull his food and water and they just let him starve to death nice huh but you are probably all for that to.

Yep if you are a innocent in this country weather you are unborn and not wanted or old and out lived your usefulness. Our government thinks it is just peacy to kill you. Be careful who you vote for one who respects life and one does not. Do you know the difference or is this above your pay scale?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Trickle down economics by Reagan, Bush 41, and now Bush 43 are the reason why we've had this:

[Fiction: cartoon evoking leftwing mythology]

If it isn't obvious to you that Bush 43 is following trickle down economics then I don't know what to tell you.

Well I'll say this, delusion seems to be your strong suit.

NOW WHAT SPECIFIC FISCAL POLICY ADVANCED BY GW BUSH CAN YOU SHOW TO BE DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO THE MELT-DOWN OF THE MORTGAGE MARKETS?

It's not hard sis... you claim to know that Bush is a staunch supply sider; you claim ,by implication that Supply Side economics is responsible for the melt-down and by default, this requires that you be in direct possession of a reasoned basis, wherein you know of SPECIFIC SUPPLY SIDE POLICY THAT YOU CAN SHOW STEP FOR STEP HOW THAT SPECIFIC POLICY LEAD TO THE MELT-DOWN OF THE MORTGAGE MARKET...

All I'm asking you gals to do, is to show us your math... Present your facts and reasoning...

Here's a tip: "SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS CAUSED IT!" is not a fact, and it is absent a basis in reasoning... thus what it is, is a baseless assertion. Now baseless assertions are absent any discernable value. While such may be your opinion, it is worthless...

So please... POST YOUR FACTS AND REASONING IN HOW A SPECIFIC GW BUSH FISCAL POLICY LEAD TO THIS FINANCIAL CATASTROPHE... or just concede by...

All I stated was that Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 all follow the idea of Reagan economics or Trickle down economics. They all believed that if the rich get tax cuts and more money that it will trickle down to the middle and lower class.

Problem is, that's a myth and always has been a myth.

What you did was to post a piece of fiction as a source for your point in support of the erroneous assertion by another member that Bush is a supply-sider and that the natural order of economics is the reason for the mortgage meltdown; at which time you were directly CHALLENGED TO POST THE FACTUAL EVIDENCE WHICH WOULD SUPPORT THAT ASSERTION and

YOU FAILED TO DO SO...

Where upon YOUR ARGUMENT suffered an EPIC FAILURE!

Now, please, save the board the time of reading your inane screeds and just

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Obvious spammer is obvious.

Well done Captain Obvious!

Sadly sis... spam is the only thing that you do and you can't even do that well...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

You took all of that out of context. If it were such a big deal, then all the right wing media would be over this 24/7 until November 4.

However, they're not so this is old news and bullshit.

Enter another two quarters and feel free to try and play this game again though.

She quoted him jackass... How in the hell does she take anything he says out of context? They are his statements, he made them in the respective books which she sourced... she doesn't place ANY context on them at ALL beyond the fact that Hussein said them in his book.

Don't you love it when Socialists become outraged at the unmitigated GALL of their opposition to actually quote them? They're very much like the Arabs who get all exorcised over the translation of their quotes...

'Oh that's not exactly what Chairman Arafat said... The interpreter misinterpreted a word, which is very common... What you were told he said: "We will kill every JEW to the last man, woman and child" is incorrect. The correct interpretation is "We will give milk to every JEW CHILD and lastly the men and woman too...'

Hussein wasn't taken out of context, his words are clear enough. He's a Marxist on the march and the truth of his ambition would make Bill Clinton blush with embarrassment.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Modbert
"'You took all of that out of context. If it were such a big deal, then all the right wing media would be over this 24/7 until November 4.

However, they're not so this is old news and bullshit.

Enter another two quarters and feel free to try and play this game again though.'

She quoted him jackass... How in the hell does she take anything he says out of context? They are his statements, he made them in the respective books which she sourced... she doesn't place ANY context on them at ALL beyond the fact that Hussein said them in his book.

Don't you love it when Socialists become outraged at the unmitigated GALL of their opposition to actually quote them? They're very much like the Arabs who get all exorcised over the translation of their quotes...

'Oh that's not exactly what Chairman Arafat said... The interpreter misinterpreted a word, which is very common... What you were told he said: "We will kill every JEW to the last man, woman and child" is incorrect. The correct interpretation is "We will give milk to every JEW CHILD and lastly the men and woman too...'

Hussein wasn't taken out of context, his words are clear enough. He's a Marxist on the march and the truth of his ambition would make Bill Clinton blush with embarrassment."

Oorah, devil dawg!

Taking a quote out of context simply means that the original quote doesn't mean exactly what it literally means because the subject surrounding the quote isn't there on display and the implicit meaning of the quote is misrepresented. Therefore, all the quotes that she used in her argument are, in fact, taken out of context. We can't really know what Obama meant in those quotes because we don't the situation in which those quotes were made unless we had read his books. Taking quotes out of context has been a habit of many bloggers, journalists, campaign ads, etc. etc. and shouldn't accepted as valid.

Furthermore, socialism and marxism are philosophies that ensure community, love among humanity, peace, equal rights, and meaningful work instead of working for rich multi-national conglomerates, the almighty dollar over fellowship, and classism.

The military is almost a microcosm of marxism. Almost except for rank and the classism between the enlisted and commissioned officers.

Semper Fidelis, leatherneck!

 

[jillian]

Just like an true Obama fan refusing to do any of your own research you want to be spoon fed.Obama likes to spoon feed his brain dead followers. God for bid you had to look up anything for yourself. You just want to believe any rubbish coming out of Obama's mouth.

Doesn't work that way, snookums. You make statements on this board, you need to back them up. It's not my job to do research on subjects that you're clearly uninformed about.

As for reproductive choice that is a pretty word for murder isn't it. Let's check the facts if you kill a pregnant woman more then likely you are going to charged for 2 murders but this country has given women the right to kill their unborn child.

Sorry, I don't talk about reproductive choice with people who aren't rational.

I beg to differ with you I have every right to defend the innocent who cannot speak for themselves it is called freedom of speech.

You have no right to impose *your* religious determinations as to when life begins on others.

Great country America.

Oh yes I am quite sure the ONLY late term abortions are for some poor disabled child the mother does not want to deal with. Since partial birth abortion IS legal in this country who makes the call when it is too late? The mother?

The doctor. And there's no such thing as PBA... it's D&E... you really need to get your terms straight.

And educating yourself would be good:

ACOG Statement on the US Supreme Court Decision Upholding the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003

Women's Enews: Abortion Procedures Ban Limits Endings for Doomed Pregnancies

I remember years ago watching a talk show Phil Donahue a young Hispanic woman was part of the topic of abortion. This young woman was holding a child who had no arms bet you can guess why. This woman had attempted to get an abortion the doctor assured her he had performed the murder but instead he had just ripped her arms off. The baby was born healthy but with no arms. I am sureeee that has NEVER happened again. I personally was appalled. I wanted to hunt that idiot down and rip his arms off.

I don't believe that.

But I am suree there are no more of these horror stories out there. Yeah right.

I assume there's risk in every medical procedure. But you're not a doctor and you certainly have no right to make decisions for others.

I hear you choice I am all about choice the woman's choice was when she decided to have sex that was her choice. Now the baby has a right to live. I hear you rape blah blah blah. I by no means condone rape but is this the baby's fault hmmm nope. We have millions of people waiting to adopt. I know a lady right now that was the victim of rape and she was impregnated by her rapist. Did she abort no she did not she gave her son life and he is the light of her world she adores him. Something beautiful come out of something horrific. I applaud her bravery! I am not saying all women can raise their children but you know now you can just drop off a baby at the hospital with no questions asked there is no excuse to murder a child.

Again, that's nice...and it's your opinion and you have no right to impose it on others.

Another scene you might be interested in. I have a friend who's father had many strokes and he lived with her. He could still get around but he needed constant supervision. Anyway he fell and broke his neck the doctors felt like he was too combative to do surgery so they elected to put him in a straight jacket and pull his food and water and they just let him starve to death nice huh but you are probably all for that to.

Damn, you're just babbling now, aren't you?

Yep if you are a innocent in this country weather you are unborn and not wanted or old and out lived your usefulness. Our government thinks it is just peacy to kill you. Be careful who you vote for one who respects life and one does not. Do you know the difference or is this above your pay scale?

Actually, I do believe that I should be able to choose to die if I can't be helped any longer and I have no quality of life.

But nice rant.... I hear valium helps stuff like that.

 

[Chris]

Hmm isn't it irrelavant as to who did what? What will rehashing history do for us now. Now is the time to focus on how to fix where we are and who do we want to do the fixing. Saying that McCain is a clone of Bush is absurd. That would be like saying Obama is a copy of Carter or Clinton because they are Dems. McCain actually voted against his own party on more then one occasion. Has Obama voted against his party? That would be a big ole NO.

Do not vote against a party vote for the man and what they stand for. What their records show. Look at the walk not the talk.

Here is something for you to chew on

From Dreams of My Father:'I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age
of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.'

From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.'
From Dreams of My Father:'There was something about him that made
wary a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'

From Dreams of My Father: 'It remained necessary to prove which side you
were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name
names.'

From Dreams of My Father:'I never emulate white men and brown men whose
fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the
attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.'

And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!!

From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political
winds shift in an ugly direction.'

CANNOT have someone with this type of mentality running our GREAT nation!!

I don't care whether you a Democrat or a Conservative. We CANNOT turn
ourselves over to this type of character in a President. PLEASE help spread
the word

Yeah this is what I want in a President a racist.




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I think you are a racist.

 

[mdjgirl7]

I think you are a racist.

You now what they say about assumptions don't you. FYI I am not a racist but Obama is. Get a clue

 

[mdjgirl7]

Doesn't work that way, snookums. You make statements on this board, you need to back them up. It's not my job to do research on subjects that you're clearly uninformed about.

Goggle give it a go you can do it I know you can. That is one thing that is wrong in this country laziness.


Sorry, I don't talk about reproductive choice with people who aren't rational.

Nope people like you stick your head in the sand when a child is being murdered and call the rest of us who try and defend them irrational



You have no right to impose *your* religious determinations as to when life begins on others.

Great country America.

Religion has nothing to do with murdering a child sounds good don't it when you don't want to have to take responsibility for killing babies


The doctor. And there's no such thing as PBA... it's D&E... you really need to get your terms straight.

And educating yourself would be good:

Open your eyes honey. I have heard it from nurses that are in the room when this goes down. They tell me they have seen live babies being tossed.

ACOG Statement on the US Supreme Court Decision Upholding the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003

Women's Enews: Abortion Procedures Ban Limits Endings for Doomed Pregnancies



I don't believe that.

I am quite sure you don't believe what is real. You are living in a make believe land with Obama and his magic wand and fairy dust. I assure you what I saw on that talk show was real.


I assume there's risk in every medical procedure. But you're not a doctor and you certainly have no right to make decisions for others.

I do not want to make decisions for others but it seems our society wants to make those decisions for babies who cannot speak for themselves are the less human then you or I? Why is their life worth less then yours or mine?



Again, that's nice...and it's your opinion and you have no right to impose it on others.



Damn, you're just babbling now, aren't you?
Sad when you don't want to hear the truth but that is where this country is. That is why Obama may be our next president because he is tiring to blow smoke up our butts. Some of us get it most of us don't unfortunately.


Actually, I do believe that I should be able to choose to die if I can't be helped any longer and I have no quality of life.

Goody for you. It is a shame my friends Dad was not asked. Yep it is true sweet pea. Abominations are going on behind closed doors. Don't worry just bury your head in the sand maybe it will just go away by itself.

But nice rant.... I hear valium helps stuff like that.

Maybe if you would skip a few you might see what is going on around you.

 

[jillian]

Maybe if you would skip a few you might see what is going on around you.

I don't need them. Thanks.

 

[Chris]

You now what they say about assumptions don't you. FYI I am not a racist but Obama is. Get a clue

Obama is half white and half black.

Which half of himself is he racist against?

 

[xsited1]

Obama is half white and half black.

Which half of himself is he racist against?

Obviously his White half. Just read his book.

 

[Chris]

Obviously his White half. Just read his book.

How is he going to discriminate against himself?

 

[mdjgirl7]

Obama is half white and half black.

Which half of himself is he racist against?

Ahhh huh really you have to be told?

 

[mdjgirl7]

Obviously his White half. Just read his book.

yeah someone who gets it! I was feeling all alone.

 

[xsited1]

Psst, putting stuff in caps doesn't make what you say anymore important then what it was before; which was not at all.


All I stated was that Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 all follow the idea of Reagan economics or Trickle down economics. They all believed that if the rich get tax cuts and more money that it will trickle down to the middle and lower class.

Problem is, that's a myth and always has been a myth.

It's not a myth. There was a Harvard study a few years back that looked at 18 large economies around the world and proved it works under the right conditions. The paper you want to read is:

"Fiscal Policy, Profits and Investment" by Profs. Alesina, Ardagna, Perotti and Schiantarelli

Here's the paper

Happy reading!