Obama + Soros = Uganda

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    The following is for individuals who would like verification that President Obama follows the orders of George Soros, and those familiar with the Leftist- Soros- UN "Responsibility to Protect" (R 2 P) project to remove sovereignty as a national character.



    1.An influential “crisis management organization” that boasts billionaire George Soros as a member of its executive board recently recommended the U.S. deploy a special advisory military team to Uganda to help with operations and run an intelligence platform.

    a. The president-emeritus of that organization, the International Crisis Group, is the principal author of Responsibility to Protect, the military doctrine used by Obama to justify the U.S.-led NATO campaign in Libya. Soros’ own Open Society Institute is one of only three nongovernmental funders of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect, a doctrine that has been cited many times by activists urging intervention in Uganda.


    2. Authors and advisers of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, including a center founded and led by Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights, also helped to found the International Criminal Court.
    Several of the doctrine’s main founders also sit on boards with Soros, who is a major proponent of the doctrine.

    3. Obama on Friday notified House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, that he plans to send about 100 military personnel, mostly Special Operations Forces, to central Africa. The first troops reportedly arrived in Uganda on Wednesday....Both conservatives and liberals have raised questions about whether military involvement in Uganda advances U.S. interests.


    a. Writing in The Atlantic yesterday, Max Fisher noted: “It’s difficult to find a U.S. interest at stake in the Lord’s Resistance Army’s campaign of violence,” continued Fisher. “It’s possible that there’s some immediate U.S. interest at stake we can’t obviously see.”

    b. Bill Roggio, the managing editor of The Long War Journal, referred to the Obama administration’s stated rationale for sending troops “puzzling,” claiming the LRA does not present a national security threat to the U.S. — “despite what President Obama said.”


    4. In April 2010 Soros’ International Crisis Group, or ICG, released a report sent to the White House and key lawmakers advising the U.S. military to run special operations in Uganda to seek Kony’s capture.

    a. Soros sits in the ICG’s executive board along with Samuel Berger, Bill Clinton’s former national security advisor; George J. Mitchell, former U.S. Senate Majority Leader who served as a Mideast envoy to both Obama and President Bush; and Javier Solana, a socialist activist who is NATO’s former Secretary-General as well as the former Foreign Affairs Minister of Spain. Jimmy Carter’s national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is the ICG’s senior advisor.


    b. The ICG’s president-emeritus is Gareth Evans, who, together with activist Ramesh Thakur, is the original founder of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, with the duo even coining the term “responsibility to protect.”

    5. Meanwhile, a closer look at the Soros-funded Global Center for the Responsibility to Protect is telling. Board members of the group include former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, former Ireland President Mary Robinson and South African activist Desmond Tutu. Robinson and Tutu have recently made solidarity visits to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip as members of a group called The Elders, which includes former President Jimmy Carter.

    a. The committee that devised the Responsibility to Protect doctrine included Arab League Secretary General Amre Moussa as well as Palestinian legislator Hanan Ashrawi, a staunch denier of the Holocaust who long served as the deputy of late Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat.


    b. The Carr Center is a research center concerned with human rights located at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights, was Carr’s founding executive director and headed the institute at the time it advised in the founding of Responsibility to Protect. With Power’s center on the advisory board, the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty first defined the Responsibility to Protect doctrine.

    6. In his address to the nation in April explaining the NATO campaign in Libya, Obama cited the doctrine as the main justification for U.S. and international airstrikes against Libya. Responsibility to Protect, or Responsibility to Act, as cited by Obama, is a set of principles, now backed by the United Nations, based on the idea that sovereignty is not a privilege but a responsibility that can be revoked if a country is accused of “war crimes,” “genocide,” “crimes against humanity” or “ethnic cleansing.”
    Why U.S. military in Uganda? Soros fingerprints all over it! Obama’s billionaire friend has interests in African country’s oil « Klein Online
     
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    The answer is quite simple.

    Over 2 billion barrels of oil has been found in Uganda.

    Now we need the area to be secure for drilling operations and running pipelines. :cool:
     
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    Are you thinking, Sunni, that the US would be beneficiaries of same?

    If so, how to explain this: "Department of Energy (DOE) Energy Information Administration (EIA) figures claiming that the territory of Iraq contains over 112 billion barrels (bbl) of proven reserves—oil that has been definitively discovered and is expected to be economically producible..." How Much Oil Does Iraq Have? - Brookings Institution
    How are we doing on getting that oil?

    Or, are you leaning toward a Soros oil-grab facilitated by President Obama..?
    You could convince me of that.
     
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    Attention must be paid to the "Responsibility to Protect" scam that is the mechanism for giving up sovereignty, not just in Uganda, but in every nation including the United States of America.
     
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    China is building roads and schools throughout Africa.

    In order to get drilling flavors and contracts from the various governments.

    To counter China's moves in the area.

    We are going to send in troops and try to stabilize the area.

    And our government hopes that this will make us top dog for oil contracts and leases.
     
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    When he sends in 50,000 troops let me know.
     
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    And Luissa defines the spin that will excuse Obama his war-mongering. :clap2:
     
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    This is going quite far over your head, huh?
     
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    1. The Doctrine of “Responsibility to Protect,” (RtoP) was accepted by the 2005World Summit, and the 2006 Security Council of the UN. The basic ideas are:

    a. A State has a responsibility to protect its population from genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and ethnic cleansing (mass atrocities).
    b. The international community has a responsibility to assist peacefully.
    c. The international community has the responsibility to intervene at first diplomatically, then more coercively, and as a last resort, with military force.

    2. Picture Bosnia, or Rwanda or Libya….what could be bad?

    3. Well, what if the real intentions behind the RtoP was to allow certain forces a ‘moral’ right to ‘interfere’ in the National Sovereignty of a nation they didn’t care for. Say…oh, I don’t know….the United States? Or Israel?

    4. “Advocates of RtoP claim that only occasions where the international community will intervene on a State without its consent is when the state is either allowing mass atrocities to occur, or is committing them, in which case the State is no longer upholding its responsibilities as a sovereign.” Responsibility to protect - Responsibility to protect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    5. “Philanthropist billionaire George Soros is a primary funder and key proponent of the global organization that promotes the military doctrine used by the Obama administration to justify the recent airstrikes targeting the regime of Moammar Gadhafi in Libya. Also, the Soros-funded global group that promotes Responsibility to Protect is closely tied to Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights.

    Power has been a champion of the doctrine and is, herself, deeply tied to the doctrine's founder.According to reports, Power was instrumental in convincing Obama to act against Libya.

    The Responsibility to Protect doctrine has been described by its founders and proponents, including Soros, as promoting global governance while allowing the international community to penetrate a nation state's borders under certain conditions.” Soros Fingerprints on Libya Bombing - George Soros - Fox Nation
    a. Wouldn’t it be strange if Arab League Chief Amr Mussa had helped write the RtoP???? He did. About the Commission : International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty
    http://responsibilitytoprotect.org/ICISS Report.pdf

    b. And look who else helped out: Dr. Hanan Ashrawi -- former Cabinet Minister of the Palestinian National Authority. Ibid.


    Remember the good ol' days, when we had a Constitution?
     
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    Sunni, there are two separate and distinct situations at issue...the first is your contention that this incursion is based on a desire to keep avenues of oil transaction open, and, at the same time, to block a future competitor, China.

    Possible.

    Except for the fact that President Obama has given as the basis for this action, the UN "Responsibility to Protect" doctrine. This is a delegation of our sovereignty to the UN.

    Article 7 is the cornerstone of American sovereignty. It describes ratification, and once ratified, announces that the people covered have entered into the “more perfect union” described in the Preamble. Article VI announces that the Constitution, any treaties and laws become the “supreme law of the land.” For a treaty to be valid it must be consistent with the Constitution, the Constitution being a higher authority than the treaties. As Alexander Hamilton stated, “ A treaty cannot change the frame of the government.”

    a. In 1919 there was an international conference to establish the International Labor Organization (ILO). The plan was that members would vote on labor standards, and member nations would automatically adopt those standards. The American members declined, saying that this would be contrary to the Constitution, specifically, it would be delegating the treaty-making power to an international body: we would be surrendering America’s sovereignty as derived from the Constitution. In 90 years, we have unilaterally adopted just three of the standards.

    b. Today, there is no longer a consensus on the principle of non-delegation. Two year ago the National Resources Defense Council, an environmental group, sued the EPA in the D.C. Court of Appeals stating that the Congress had instructed the EPA to conform to the Montreal Protocol, an international conference calling for stricter emission standards. The Appeals Court stated that Congress cannot delegate its constitutional power and responsibility to legislate for the American people to an international body.

    The ideas above from a speech by Jeremy Rabkin, professor of law, George Mason School of Law, June 5, 2009 at Washington, D.C. sponsored by Hillsdale College.


    Did you note that "...the Congress had instructed the EPA to conform to the Montreal Protocol, an international conference..." "...this would be contrary to the Constitution, specifically, it would be delegating the treaty-making power to an international body..."

    Now, I know that neither you nor I would be infavor of such action. I hope that you would scrutinize any actions by this administration in the light of its effect on American sovereignty.
     

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