Obama said no to American energy independence and yes to radical environmentalists

Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Over 70% support raising the Minimum Wage. Over 60% supported equal pay for women.
And what happened there? Anyone?

The racist far left Obama drones don't practice what they their programing tells others what they should do.
 
Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Over 70% support raising the Minimum Wage. Over 60% supported equal pay for women.
And what happened there? Anyone?

The racist far left Obama drones don't practice what they their programing tells others what they should do.

Another great post from the least creative, non-thinking, redundant poster on USMB. :lol:
 
OMG, we'll lose maybe 100 permanent jobs.

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That is utter horseshit. The Koch brothers have nothing to do with the Alberta oil sands. Furthermore, the picture on the right is only a temporary condition. The land is restored to it's original condition after the oil has been recovered. Also the picture on the left is not of the same location. The land where the oil sands are found is almost perfectly flat, and they don't mine in the middle of river basins. To sum up there isn't a single shred of proof in your post. Every last pixel of it is a lie.

Like all leftists, you're just a despicable lying piece of trash.
 
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Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

Exxon doesn't own any of the mineral rights in the Alberta oil sands. According to Wikipedia, the following companies have an interest there:

Syncrude,
Suncor,
CNRL,
Shell,
Total,
Imperial Oil,
Petro Canada,
Devon,
Husky,
Statoil,
Nexen​

None of these are American companies.

Some of the following "partners" are American companies, but they only provide logistical support:

Chevron
Marathon
ConocoPhillips
BP
Oxy​

The reason for sending the oil to Houston is so it can be refined there. Texas has refineries equipped to handle the heavy crude that comes out of the oil sands. Canada doesn't have sufficient refinery capacity of this nature to process all the oil recovered from the oil sands.

So basically, as always, your claims are pure bullshit. You're just spewing manure into the air.
 
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Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

Exxon doesn't own any of the mineral rights in the Alberta oil sands. According to Wikipedia, the following companies have an interest there:

Syncrude,
Suncor,
CNRL,
Shell,
Total,
Imperial Oil,
Petro Canada,
Devon,
Husky,
Statoil,
Nexen​

None of these are American companies.

Some of the following "partners" are American companies, but they only provide logistical support:

Chevron
Marathon
ConocoPhillips
BP
Oxy​

"Exxon" is generic for "the oil industry", Finger-fuck. That's why it says "the Exxons". Are you that stupid that you think there's more than one Exxon?
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Dumbass.

And whether they're "American", "Canadian", "Dutch", "Briitish" or "Dumbfuckistani" companies is of absolutely no consequence to how the system works.

I can't believe you took the time to look this shit up and make yourself look this ridiculous.

The reason for sending the oil to Houston is so it can be refined there. Texas has refineries equipped to handle the heavy crude that comes out of the oil sands. Canada doesn't have sufficient refinery capacity of this nature to process all the oil recovered from the oil sands.

No shit, Sherlock. That's what I pointed out from the beginning, including right there in the post you quoted. Holy shit you're dense.

Pipeline takes crude to Houston; Houston is on the Gulf; Gulf means water; ships sail on water. Refine in Houston, load ships, sail away to where the market wants. Doesn't mean squat to anyone in North America.
 
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Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

I've been in the "oil biz" for 37 years.

I'll make a long story short.... :fu:

Your post isn't even worth my effort.
 
Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

I've been in the "oil biz" for 37 years.

I'll make a long story short.... :fu:

Your post isn't even worth my effort.

Translation:

"The damn bar is open again"
 
Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

Exxon doesn't own any of the mineral rights in the Alberta oil sands. According to Wikipedia, the following companies have an interest there:

Syncrude,
Suncor,
CNRL,
Shell,
Total,
Imperial Oil,
Petro Canada,
Devon,
Husky,
Statoil,
Nexen​

None of these are American companies.

Some of the following "partners" are American companies, but they only provide logistical support:

Chevron
Marathon
ConocoPhillips
BP
Oxy​

"Exxon" is generic for "the oil industry", Finger-fuck. That's why it says "the Exxons". Are you that stupid that you think there's more than one Exxon?
rofl.gif


Dumbass.

And whether they're "American", "Canadian", "Dutch", "Briitish" or "Dumbfuckistani" companies is of absolutely no consequence to how the system works.

I can't believe you took the time to look this shit up and make yourself look this ridiculous.

The reason for sending the oil to Houston is so it can be refined there. Texas has refineries equipped to handle the heavy crude that comes out of the oil sands. Canada doesn't have sufficient refinery capacity of this nature to process all the oil recovered from the oil sands.

No shit, Sherlock. That's what I pointed out from the beginning, including right there in the post you quoted. Holy shit you're dense.

Pipeline takes crude to Houston; Houston is on the Gulf; Gulf means water; ships sail on water. Refine in Houston, load ships, sail away to where the market wants. Doesn't mean squat to anyone in North America.
I was wrong, you are much more stupid than I originally thought. As I said once before, you know nothing about the oil issue.

You are the only one on this thread who is dense AND full of crap. Why not remove your head from your excremental orifice and join the real world. Did you really post crap for over 21,700 posts? And you have not exploded from all that foul gas emitting from your butt?
 
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Over 70% support raising the Minimum Wage. Over 60% supported equal pay for women.
And what happened there? Anyone?

The racist far left Obama drones don't practice what they their programing tells others what they should do.

Another great post from the least creative, non-thinking, redundant poster on USMB. :lol:

You mean just like all the racist far left Obama drones like yourself?
 
Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

Exxon doesn't own any of the mineral rights in the Alberta oil sands. According to Wikipedia, the following companies have an interest there:

Syncrude,
Suncor,
CNRL,
Shell,
Total,
Imperial Oil,
Petro Canada,
Devon,
Husky,
Statoil,
Nexen​

None of these are American companies.

Some of the following "partners" are American companies, but they only provide logistical support:

Chevron
Marathon
ConocoPhillips
BP
Oxy​

"Exxon" is generic for "the oil industry", Finger-fuck. That's why it says "the Exxons". Are you that stupid that you think there's more than one Exxon?
rofl.gif


Dumbass.

And whether they're "American", "Canadian", "Dutch", "Briitish" or "Dumbfuckistani" companies is of absolutely no consequence to how the system works.

I can't believe you took the time to look this shit up and make yourself look this ridiculous.

The reason for sending the oil to Houston is so it can be refined there. Texas has refineries equipped to handle the heavy crude that comes out of the oil sands. Canada doesn't have sufficient refinery capacity of this nature to process all the oil recovered from the oil sands.

No shit, Sherlock. That's what I pointed out from the beginning, including right there in the post you quoted. Holy shit you're dense.

Pipeline takes crude to Houston; Houston is on the Gulf; Gulf means water; ships sail on water. Refine in Houston, load ships, sail away to where the market wants. Doesn't mean squat to anyone in North America.

"The system," as you call it, has provided the world with an abundant supply of a very high grade form of energy at a very low price. It spends billions and billions on ever more advanced technology to recover oil from ever more difficult places. Energy companies have done far more for the world than you and 500 million of your ilk have produced in the entire time you have infested this earth.

If there are any scams going down here, it's purely by the enemies of capitalism and cheap abundant energy like you.

The issue with the pipeline is refinery capacity, not the presence of a coastline, you witless douche nozzle. The coastline of British Colombia is closer to Alberta than Houston, but there aren't any refineries there. Furthermore, there isn't access to a large nearby market as there is on the Gulf coast. It's also easier to ship oil to India and China from British Colombia than Houston. You can't send super tankers through the Panama canal or the Suez canal. That makes Houston a bad location for shipping oil to Asia. You would have known that if you weren't so fucking dumb.

The refrain "it's all about money" is the mating call of the mentally challenged. Of course it's about money. Business and industry are always about money. So what? Did you imagine while you were wallowing in your idiocy that oil companies are charities?
 
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Just how out of touch is socialist Barack Obama? Even though 70%+ of the American people support the job-creating, pro-American Keystone XL pipeline, Obama delayed the decision. Thousands of American workers won't get a job thanks to Obama's un-American and stupid decision. Instead, more oil will be shipped by train, which leads to more pollution and more spills. And that oil's going to go to China instead of the USA. Barack Obama's decision today hurts the lives of average Midwestern Americans. Obama won't listen to the American people, and 2014 is a good time to send a clear message to him.

STOP IT!!!!!!!!!

Keystone's got Zero to do with "energy independence". Perhaps Fox Noise tells you it somehow brings product to the pumps in Dubuque. It doesn't. Not even remotely close. The oil biz just doesn't work that way.

What Keystone does do is bring raw material to Houston, where it can be loaded on ships to facilitate energy dependence in China and India. Because that's where the money is. What it does do is cut costs for the Exxons so they can increase profits, because, you know, there just isn't enough of that. What it does in effect is enable Big Oil to say to We the People, "here -- hold this up while I make big bucks on it, and whatever you do don't drop it or you'll have a mess".

Nuttin' like knowing what yer talking about before creating a thread. You guys who buy the whole "drill here drill now" malarkey hook line and sinker still haven't got it through your head that "we" don't drill for oil --- oil companies drill for oil, and their loyalty is to shareholders, not whatever nation they're based in. But they'll be happy to sell you the kool-aid that a pipeline somehow finds its way to your local pump.

Happy motoring.

Exxon doesn't own any of the mineral rights in the Alberta oil sands. According to Wikipedia, the following companies have an interest there:

Syncrude,
Suncor,
CNRL,
Shell,
Total,
Imperial Oil,
Petro Canada,
Devon,
Husky,
Statoil,
Nexen​

None of these are American companies.

Some of the following "partners" are American companies, but they only provide logistical support:

Chevron
Marathon
ConocoPhillips
BP
Oxy​

The reason for sending the oil to Houston is so it can be refined there. Texas has refineries equipped to handle the heavy crude that comes out of the oil sands. Canada doesn't have sufficient refinery capacity of this nature to process all the oil recovered from the oil sands.

So basically, as always, your claims are pure bullshit. You're just spewing manure into the air.
Pogo is not even as smart as the opossum after which he was named.
 
Exxon doesn't own any of the mineral rights in the Alberta oil sands. According to Wikipedia, the following companies have an interest there:

Syncrude,
Suncor,
CNRL,
Shell,
Total,
Imperial Oil,
Petro Canada,
Devon,
Husky,
Statoil,
Nexen​

None of these are American companies.

Some of the following "partners" are American companies, but they only provide logistical support:

Chevron
Marathon
ConocoPhillips
BP
Oxy​

"Exxon" is generic for "the oil industry", Finger-fuck. That's why it says "the Exxons". Are you that stupid that you think there's more than one Exxon?
rofl.gif


Dumbass.

And whether they're "American", "Canadian", "Dutch", "Briitish" or "Dumbfuckistani" companies is of absolutely no consequence to how the system works.

I can't believe you took the time to look this shit up and make yourself look this ridiculous.

The reason for sending the oil to Houston is so it can be refined there. Texas has refineries equipped to handle the heavy crude that comes out of the oil sands. Canada doesn't have sufficient refinery capacity of this nature to process all the oil recovered from the oil sands.

No shit, Sherlock. That's what I pointed out from the beginning, including right there in the post you quoted. Holy shit you're dense.

Pipeline takes crude to Houston; Houston is on the Gulf; Gulf means water; ships sail on water. Refine in Houston, load ships, sail away to where the market wants. Doesn't mean squat to anyone in North America.

"The system," as you call it, has provided the world with an abundant supply of a very high grade form of energy at a very low price. It spends billions and billions on ever more advanced technology to recover oil from ever more difficult places. Energy companies have done far more for the world than you and 500 million of your ilk have produced in the entire time you have infested this earth.

Given the way you fucked up the last post I doubt you have the vaguest inkling how that works. And trust me Junior, you don't know me or my "ilk". I have no "ilk".

NOTHING in what you posted here makes a point or in any way refutes my post. If you weren't completely illiterate you might have figured out the text in the first place and saved yourself a trip to Wikiland to list a bunch of shit that means absolutely nothing to the point.

If there are any scams going down here, it's purely by the enemies of capitalism and cheap abundant energy like you.

Since you are illiterate I'll have to essplain this out for you as well -- I made no judgments on whether energy is "cheap" or not, nor on the concept of capitalism. I simply described how it works, in contrast to the bullshit and abject ignorance the OP and creatures of your ilk walk around dropping on the landscape like so many turds.

Don't like being schooled? Then stay with shit you actually know about.
 
"Exxon" is generic for "the oil industry", Finger-fuck. That's why it says "the Exxons". Are you that stupid that you think there's more than one Exxon?
rofl.gif


Dumbass.

And whether they're "American", "Canadian", "Dutch", "Briitish" or "Dumbfuckistani" companies is of absolutely no consequence to how the system works.

I can't believe you took the time to look this shit up and make yourself look this ridiculous.



No shit, Sherlock. That's what I pointed out from the beginning, including right there in the post you quoted. Holy shit you're dense.

Pipeline takes crude to Houston; Houston is on the Gulf; Gulf means water; ships sail on water. Refine in Houston, load ships, sail away to where the market wants. Doesn't mean squat to anyone in North America.

"The system," as you call it, has provided the world with an abundant supply of a very high grade form of energy at a very low price. It spends billions and billions on ever more advanced technology to recover oil from ever more difficult places. Energy companies have done far more for the world than you and 500 million of your ilk have produced in the entire time you have infested this earth.

Given the way you fucked up the last post I doubt you have the vaguest inkling how that works. And trust me Junior, you don't know me or my "ilk". I have no "ilk".

NOTHING in what you posted here makes a point or in any way refutes my post. If you weren't completely illiterate you might have figured out the text in the first place and saved yourself a trip to Wikiland to list a bunch of shit that means absolutely nothing to the point.

If there are any scams going down here, it's purely by the enemies of capitalism and cheap abundant energy like you.

Since you are illiterate I'll have to essplain this out for you as well -- I made no judgments on whether energy is "cheap" or not, nor on the concept of capitalism. I simply described how it works, in contrast to the bullshit and abject ignorance the OP and creatures of your ilk walk around dropping on the landscape like so many turds.

Don't like being schooled? Then stay with shit you actually know about.

You weren't explaining it the way someone would explain how an internal combustion engine works, purely indifferently. You implied there was something sinister about the way it works.

Who do you think you're fooling, jackass?

Furthermore, you got it wrong. You don't understand the way it works. Getting all the facts wrong is not "schooling" someone. It's normally called "making an ass of yourself."

As for stuff I actually know, my father was a petroleum geologist. He was the director of exploration for Phillips Petroleum. I think I know a thing or two about the oil industry.
 
If you know "a thing or two" about the oil industry then explain how this one pipeline is going to make the United States energy-independent.
 
What he knows a "thing or two" about is gainsaying. It's all he's done here.

Then he tells me I "got the facts wrong" --- after repeating the same facts I already laid down.

Finger-Boy: proof that talent skips a generation.
 
Its only about Oil as much as once they destroy Oil, they succeed in destroying the USA.

Think about it, they believe we are about to run out of Oil yet they have increased the use of Oil massively to build hundreds of square miles of Solar Plants and Wind Turbine Plants.

The USA imports electrical power from Canada, that is how weak we have become.

The idea is simply to destroy the USA so that the history books can show how bad Freedom is and how good Communism is.

One day we will not even be able to feed ourselves, oh, that day just came, check how much of your produce comes from Mexico and China. I bet all of you eat garlic from China. Check it out, look at where your food comes from and think about how close we really are to being destroyed.

Energy is the key, destroy our ability to produce energy, and we are destroyed.

The next war we fight must be fought on a sunny windy day, so we have 100% of our power available.
 

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