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How quickly we forget-----we need to CUT spending---do without something !!
Everyone got that ?
Here is another thing about inspiration, NASA has inspired the commercial application os space flight with the Ansari X Prize which was one recently by a team led by Burt Rutan and Richard Branson. They now are building a a commercial space flight vehicle and company called Virgin Galactic and are completely sold out for years in the number of flights they are offering. This is no gimmick, this is just the beginning of a whole new era in space flight and it's the inspiration of agencies like NASA and DARPA that give way to this sort of thing. So to simply dismiss it and say that it's not needed or we can do it here on Earth is a way of saying we no longer wish to dream and go beyond the horizon.
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2012 man we don't need to go to space they are coming here...they sent Obama..the one...to prepare us
2012 man.. we don't need to go to space they are coming here...they sent Obama..the one...to prepare us
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Not all dreams or inspiration lead through space and if we could afford it I would be all for it but right now it's way down there on the list of what I think America should be spending money on. Like it or not, America's money is going to subsidize green before anyone one is going to dance on Mars.
You aviators are all alike !
I'm laughing as if you're kidding. You are kidding right. If not, I think someone has a David Icke thing going on in the religion thread and if you jump in now they may be giving away free tinfoil hats. lol
well I am mostly kidding.....I mean in a world where guys with magic underwear can run for president...
Given Obama's proposal to take aerospace funding and give it to education....
If I have to choose between funding the two, I choose funding the space program everytime. Throwing more money at the educational system benefits nobody, least of all the students. More money for NASA produces research that benefits the entire world.
The best thing Obama said about education was that parents need to own up to their responsibility as well.
Shhh...those are Depends, don't point it out. Oh, wait....you meant Romney.
Disclaimer: I do respect John McCain, and have defended him against unwarranted mean-spirited attacks on other threads. This was meant to be humorous, not offensive. It was just set up to well to pass.
Any idiot could have come up with that.
Yes. But which politician finally had the balls to say it. My theory has always been that "parents" has always been a larger voting bloc, so it was more politic to always blame schools and teachers or the system as a whole. Maybe someone else has said it, but he was the first I've heard.
Are you serious? Every politician since the invocation of the Dept. of Education has dragged out the "parents should be more responsible" saw.
They always say it, and nothing ever changes, but we pour more money into education every year.
It doesn't take balls to same something as mundane as "parents should be more responsible". It takes balls to say something like "The problem with education in this country is the NEA teachers unions." Unfortunately, nobody has the balls to say that.
I am serious. Show me the money.
And please explain to me how the NEA is screwing up everything.
Let's see....how is the NEA screwing up everything?
A GREAT example of that is Paul Hubbard. He is a lobbyist for the educators union in Alabama. He is known to get state Senators side jobs at state community colleges, like he did for Lowell Barron (sp?). Google that one, but double check the spelling.
Paul Hubbard can make or break an Alabama state congressperson. He is heavily tied to the democrat party in Alabama. Of course, our wonderful, strongly democrat state congress voted themselves a 66% pay raise this term. Surely Paul Hubbard didn't get any kick backs from that.
Surely not.
If He is elected, I dont know about how bad Obamas going to chop up the NASA budget, but i did find this article on his stupidy of sharing the wealth ideas....Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic candidate for president, held a town hall meeting near the Kennedy Space Center today and vowed strong support for NASA, saying he favors at least one shuttle flight beyond the 10 missions left on the agency's manifest. Obama also said he would work to close the gap between the end of shuttle operations in 2010 and the debut of the Orion spacecraft that will replace it and said earlier reports that he would divert money from NASA's next manned spacecraft to education were unfounded.
Obama was introduced to an enthusiastic crowd of about 1,300 at the Brevard Community College by Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL), who flew as a payload specialist aboard the shuttle Columbia in 1986. In his opening remarks, Obama delivered his most detailed statement yet on space policy as NASA implements the Bush administration's drive to complete the space station and retire the shuttle fleet by the end of fiscal 2010.
NASA hopes to replace the shuttle with smaller Orion capsules and huge, unmanned cargo boosters, known collectively as the Constellation program. The goal is to use Orion spacecraft to carry astronauts to and from the station while developing the heavy-lift Ares 5 rocket that will help NASA establish a moon base around 2020.
Under the Bush administration's plan, the money to pay for the Constellation program primarily will come from funds that now go to the shuttle and space station programs. The Orion spacecraft and its Ares 1 booster are under development, but near-term funding shortfalls will result in a four- to five-year gap between the end of shuttle operations and the advent of routine operations with Orion. During that gap, U.S. astronauts will be forced to hitch rides to the station aboard Russian Soyuz spacecraft.
Today, Obama said he supports the Constellation program and will work to narrow the gap between the end of shuttle operations and the advent of Orion.
"I know it's still being reported that we were talking about delaying some aspects of the Constellation program to pay for our early education program," he said. "I told my staff we're going to find an entirely different offset because we've got to make sure that the money that's going into NASA for basic research and development continues to go there. That has been a top priority for us. This is an administration that's been anti-science. Whether it's on stem cell research, whether it's on climate change, they have rejected science. I want to reverse that trend, I want us to be a science-based society and I want us to invest in science."
Spaceflight Now | Breaking News | Obama vows NASA support during visit to Florida
Obama supporters, it's been very difficult for me to find current information on this other than the Obama web page. However. if you look at how he plans to fund early education, one of the lines he mentions is a plan to cut funding for the constellation program by delaying it for 5 years. That would mean that the United States after 2010 till 2020 would have no capability to put their own people into space. In case you have not noticed China yesterday conducted a space walk with their own astronauts and plan on going to the moon in the next 7 years. Also, India just launched a moon program yesterday as well. Am I one of the few that thinks it's still important to have a manned space flight program? The benefits from this are many and proven. So if an Obama supporter can convince me on this one is he currently still planning to keep the program or not?
