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Link it.
Link an actual case of someone dying due to Obamacare.
I linked people dying due to Conservacare. Jan Brewer is the conservative heroine.
Your link is my link. Obamacare cut 500billion in medi payments to the states, the states made cuts as a result of the federal cuts in hr3200, these cuts as you already stated caused at least 2 deaths in arizona..
Ridiculous.
Brewer did something that was cruel.
Simple as that.
Our quality is the best.
The cost is what they are using as ranking # 47.
Our cost is due to politics.
Meanwhile methheads are busting burn wards because they are blowing themselves up and not paying for their treatment. There are a lot of those that use emergency wards for free health care and we end up paying for it. Obamacare was designed to rip us off to take care of dead beats who support obamaturd.OK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
Idiot socialist lefties. Idiot.Our quality is the best.
The cost is what they are using as ranking # 47.
Our cost is due to politics.
Your link is my link. Obamacare cut 500billion in medi payments to the states, the states made cuts as a result of the federal cuts in hr3200, these cuts as you already stated caused at least 2 deaths in arizona..
Ridiculous.
Brewer did something that was cruel.
Simple as that.
I'm not saying that what happened was right, i'm just making sure the facts of where the cuts actually originated from are properly represented.
If you want to blame brewer fine but if you want to be consitant and not hypocritical you also have to blame obama and the dem house/congress that passed obamacare (hr3200)
Ridiculous.
Brewer did something that was cruel.
Simple as that.
I'm not saying that what happened was right, i'm just making sure the facts of where the cuts actually originated from are properly represented.
If you want to blame brewer fine but if you want to be consitant and not hypocritical you also have to blame obama and the dem house/congress that passed obamacare (hr3200)
The Health Care Package was not in full effect and it cuts redundant and unnecessary procedures.
A life saving operation is neither redundant or unnecessary.
OK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
OK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
And, ya know, if Obama had said "It's not right that people go bankrupt because of catastrophic illnesses so I propose a national insurance that covers the follow specific life or death illnesses........" I might have congratulated him on it and supported it. But that's not what he did... he introduced a clusterfuck that won't work... and it is absolutely designed to lead us to single payer. Now, I would urge people to honestly and without preconceived opinions go and research the countries that use such a system.... and you will know that it cannot work in the US. It can't work.
Why, this is what is in obamacare...the govt decides what medical services are necessary and most important. Obamacare cut 500billion from medicare, states have to now make cuts.
If you support obamacare you should support this
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200rh/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200rh.pdf
Go read dude.
ExactlyOK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
And, ya know, if Obama had said "It's not right that people go bankrupt because of catastrophic illnesses so I propose a national insurance that covers the follow specific life or death illnesses........" I might have congratulated him on it and supported it. But that's not what he did... he introduced a clusterfuck that won't work... and it is absolutely designed to lead us to single payer. Now, I would urge people to honestly and without preconceived opinions go and research the countries that use such a system.... and you will know that it cannot work in the US. It can't work.
O.K., here's youropportunity.
Where do you find that, in.....
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200rh/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200rh.pdf
Go read dude.
Gee......you were unable to cut-'n-paste your references, huh?
Shocking.
Brewer's new book: reason? her Maybelline and Covergirl cosmetics cost a fricken fortune! I'd bet she uses 5 pounds of concealer a day! Just imagine what she'd look like without makeup? eeeek. maybe a mummy? or a sunmaid prune?
PolitiFact | Obama deported more people in his first year than Bush did in his last, Spanish-language news anchor says
Brewer is a chronic bitcher. WTF does she want? Thousands of army & marines on the border? Not gonna happen unless the cartels step over the line in large numbers. In fact, I do believe some National Guard troops were already dispatched to the border. She just dislikes mexican illegals. She should crack down on businesses who hire them, then illegals will have no reason to cross.
I would have asked her if she'd like to have that finger shoved up her ass.
Border Wars - National Geographic Channel
Obama to send 1,200 troops to U.S.-Mexico border - USATODAY.com
The illegals that have residents along our southern border scared aren't the one's coming up here looking for jobs, genius...it's the people that are smuggling drugs into the country and are currently engaged in an all out war killing tens of thousands of people right across a poorly maintained border from States like Arizona...a conflict that will almost certainly spill over to our side of that border. But our so called leaders won't secure that border because it might be seen as "anti-Hispanic" and they don't want to lose the Hispanic vote.
Our quality is the best.
The cost is what they are using as ranking # 47.
Our cost is due to politics.
Very big difference between the two.
Our "cost" is due to HMOs going public.
Typical lefty debate. "I disagree, you ugly, stupid, racist teabagger, but I can't tell you why other than you're a wingnut."She looks like a witch in that photo.
She looks like she finally remembered what she wanted to say in that debate.
I'm guessing she has pill induced mood swings, augmented with a fondness for adult beverages.
So you got nothing either?
What Brewer really said...
I'll get you...........and your little dog too!
OK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
Arizona Gov. Brewer gets book critique from Obama - Yahoo! NewsArizona Gov. Jan Brewer came to greet President Barack Obama upon his arrival outside Phoenix Wednesday. What she got was a critique. Of her book.
The two leaders could be seen engaged in an intense conversation at the base of Air Force One's steps. Both could be seen smiling, but speaking at the same time.
Asked moments later what the conversation was about, Brewer, a Republican, said: "He was a little disturbed about my book."
Brewer recently published a book, "Scorpions for Breakfast," something of a memoir of her years growing up and defends her signing of Arizona's controversial law cracking down on illegal immigrants, which Obama opposes.
Obama was objecting to Brewer's description of a meeting he and Brewer had at the White House, where she described Obama as lecturing her. In an interview in November Brewer described two tense meetings. The first took place before his commencement address at Arizona State University. "He did blow me off at ASU," she said in the television interview in November.
She also described meeting the president at the White House in 2010 to talk about immigration. "I felt a little bit like I was being lectured to, and I was a little kid in a classroom, if you will, and he was this wise professor and I was this little kid, and this little kid knows what the problem is and I felt minimized to say the least."
On the tarmac Wednesday, Brewer handed Obama an envelope with a handwritten invitation to return to Arizona to meet her for lunch and to join her for a visit to the border.
"I said to him, you know, I have always respected the office of the president and that the book is what the book is," she told reporters Wednesday. She said Obama complained that she described him as not treating her cordially
OK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
I am aware of that. That's why I have money in the bank to pay for my obligations. 4 years ago, I almost lost my left hand due to a antibiotic resistant staph infection. I was hospitalized for 9 days and had wound care and therapy daily at first and then 3 days a week for 6 months. Total cost was north of $45,000. The bills are all paid. Not, I don't make big bucks. I've just been responsible.
Our quality is the best.
The cost is what they are using as ranking # 47.
Our cost is due to politics.
Very big difference between the two.
Our "cost" is due to HMOs going public.
No. Our cost is due to the fact that Americans, as a rule, don't pay for health care. Their employee benefits package or their medicaid or privately purchased insurance pays the bill and most of us are oblivious to what our care costs.
Doctors and insurance companies really have no compelling reason to hold costs down as no one really begrudges them making a profit.
A 10% profit on a $600 premium is a lot better than a 10% profit on $200/month.
If we did something like limited insurance payout to 80% of the bill, we would actually see how much our care costs and people would demand costs be brought down.
50 years ago, I had a bicycle accident and broke my arm. My dad was a tool and die maker and was paid, what was then the exorbitant rate of $3.10/hour. His job did not provide medical insurance and when the bill for $20 came, he paid it.
Today, a top level tool maker earns about $30/hour and the bill for a broken arm is typically $4,000. Let's see here. Pay has gone up 10 times and a broken arm, 200? Sure there are a lot of reasons for the increase, but the fact that most of us don't pay for our own care is, in my opinion, the biggest.
OK I'm a cruel bastard, but just why is that my problem? I pay my medical bills. Why can't you?
I'm not going to call you cruel, ernie. but if you have been able to pay your medical bills, thank goodness, it means you haven't had a catastrophic illness that bankrupted you.
you are aware that over 50% of bankruptcies are due to unanticipated medical expenses, right? certainly that isn't good for us as a society.
I am aware of that. That's why I have money in the bank to pay for my obligations. 4 years ago, I almost lost my left hand due to a antibiotic resistant staph infection. I was hospitalized for 9 days and had wound care and therapy daily at first and then 3 days a week for 6 months. Total cost was north of $45,000. The bills are all paid. Not, I don't make big bucks. I've just been responsible.
