Obama embracing his signature achievement

[Stephanie]

How wonderful, a President trumpeting something he shoved on the people AGAISNT their will..

all Hale Obama

 

[Greenbeard]

It has got to be difficult.......and boring.....to be a nutter. But....one has to admire your persistence. Like a 4 year old who wants a cookie............you folks can repeat a fucking phrase forever.

I imagine the folly of branding it "Obamacare" is starting to sink in. Now Obama barely even has to take credit for every MLR check that goes in the mail, every preventive screen one gets without a co-pay, every recent college grad who isn't automatically booted off their family insurance plan, every life that's been saved by a PCIP, ever dollar a senior saves as the donut hole closes, and soon every un- or under-insured person who gets decent coverage (hell, we even have Willow of all people in the health care forum right now reminding us that helping folks buy insurance through an exchange will save lives)--he's been given single-handed credit for it all.

Every single one of those achievements has been made synonymous with his name, not by the Democrats but by the Republicans (though Obama himself has since started to embrace the term Obamacare). It was a risky gambit and everything, everything was riding on the SCOTUS simply chucking the law out. Now the Republicans are becoming victims of their own marketing campaign.

And it seems Obama and Romney both recognize that.

 

[The Rabbi]

It's about time the Democrats started messaging properly on the Affordable Care Act. They've done a shit ass job up to this point and let the Faux talking heads drive the conversation with lies.

Yup.
It's a lie that my insurance rates just increased more than they ever have. It's a lie that government is imposing a huge new tax called the mandate. It's a lie that Obamacare contains the largest tax increase in history, in addition to the mandate. It's a lie that Obamacare has necessitated waivers out the ying yang for favored companies. It's a lie that every day some new aspect that wreaks potential havoc is discovered. It's a lie that it violates Obama's pledge not to raise taxes on people making under $250k. It's a lie that it does adds one dime to the deficit. It's a lie that it will not cost under $1T.
Yeah, those are all lies.
No, they're not. They are the truth. And the more Americans learn about Obamacare the less they like it.

 

[Stephanie]

I guess we should be thanking Obama for another entitlement program that we the people won't be able to afford to pay for or get fined for NOT paying for it..

we should kiss the ground Obama walks on

 

[Greenbeard]

It's a lie that my insurance rates just increased more than they ever have. It's a lie that government is imposing a huge new tax called the mandate. It's a lie that Obamacare contains the largest tax increase in history, in addition to the mandate. It's a lie that Obamacare has necessitated waivers out the ying yang for favored companies. It's a lie that every day some new aspect that wreaks potential havoc is discovered. It's a lie that it violates Obama's pledge not to raise taxes on people making under $250k. It's a lie that it does adds one dime to the deficit. It's a lie that it will not cost under $1T.
Yeah, those are all lies.

Indeed!

 

[The Rabbi]

It's a lie that my insurance rates just increased more than they ever have. It's a lie that government is imposing a huge new tax called the mandate. It's a lie that Obamacare contains the largest tax increase in history, in addition to the mandate. It's a lie that Obamacare has necessitated waivers out the ying yang for favored companies. It's a lie that every day some new aspect that wreaks potential havoc is discovered. It's a lie that it violates Obama's pledge not to raise taxes on people making under $250k. It's a lie that it does adds one dime to the deficit. It's a lie that it will not cost under $1T.
Yeah, those are all lies.

Indeed!

Yup. Whatever Obama promised about Obamacare was a lie. It was all a lie. And people generally don't like being lied to. Especially about money.
Obama and his team are con men. They are escape artists. They are trickier than Tricky Dick ever was. If half the skill they have in campaigning and spinning were devoted to actually governing this country would have no problems.

 

[Sallow]

He has the air of a winner. As he should: he succeeded where many others have failed, overcoming a nihilistic minority in Congress and a conservative Court to reform a broken health care system.

It's good to see he's asserting himself on the stump. And amusing to see Romney shrinking away from the issue.

Oh yeah. This clusterfuck of a bill was passed by one party. The Dems. Many of those Dems had to be bribed and threatened by their bosses to pass this clusterfuck of a bill.

Those same Dems ignored their constituants who were clogging the phone line to DC to protest this bill. They passed it anyway.

This bill will cost anyone with HC up the ass and anyone who doesn't think this is an idiot in my book.

Another massive entitlement that someone else will be paying for.

Yeah. I can see Barry gloating over his HC bill on the campaign trail. NOT

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

 

[Stephanie]

He has the air of a winner. As he should: he succeeded where many others have failed, overcoming a nihilistic minority in Congress and a conservative Court to reform a broken health care system.

It's good to see he's asserting himself on the stump. And amusing to see Romney shrinking away from the issue.

Oh yeah. This clusterfuck of a bill was passed by one party. The Dems. Many of those Dems had to be bribed and threatened by their bosses to pass this clusterfuck of a bill.

Those same Dems ignored their constituants who were clogging the phone line to DC to protest this bill. They passed it anyway.

This bill will cost anyone with HC up the ass and anyone who doesn't think this is an idiot in my book.

Another massive entitlement that someone else will be paying for.

Yeah. I can see Barry gloating over his HC bill on the campaign trail. NOT

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

omg, were is my duty to work and take care of the have nots?
they have as much opportunity in this country to make themselves the HAVES
well they don't so much today with this administation

 

[The Rabbi]

He has the air of a winner. As he should: he succeeded where many others have failed, overcoming a nihilistic minority in Congress and a conservative Court to reform a broken health care system.

It's good to see he's asserting himself on the stump. And amusing to see Romney shrinking away from the issue.

Oh yeah. This clusterfuck of a bill was passed by one party. The Dems. Many of those Dems had to be bribed and threatened by their bosses to pass this clusterfuck of a bill.

Those same Dems ignored their constituants who were clogging the phone line to DC to protest this bill. They passed it anyway.

This bill will cost anyone with HC up the ass and anyone who doesn't think this is an idiot in my book.

Another massive entitlement that someone else will be paying for.

Yeah. I can see Barry gloating over his HC bill on the campaign trail. NOT

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

And Democrats want equality: No one gets anything, everyone is a have-not.

 

[mudwhistle]

He has the air of a winner. As he should: he succeeded where many others have failed, overcoming a nihilistic minority in Congress and a conservative Court to reform a broken health care system.

It's good to see he's asserting himself on the stump. And amusing to see Romney shrinking away from the issue.

Wipe your chin.

His only signature achievement is polarizing the country, dropping it's credit rating for the first time, and causing unprecedented economic uncertainty.

It has been predicted that his health care scam will cost close to a million jobs once it goes into effect and the waivers expire.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

His signature achievement...admitting Social Security is broke?

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3 if we haven't resolved this issue, because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it. This is not just a matter of Social Security checks. These are veterans checks, these are folks on disability and their checks. There are about 70 million checks that go out."

 

[mudwhistle]

He has the air of a winner. As he should: he succeeded where many others have failed, overcoming a nihilistic minority in Congress and a conservative Court to reform a broken health care system.

It's good to see he's asserting himself on the stump. And amusing to see Romney shrinking away from the issue.

Oh yeah. This clusterfuck of a bill was passed by one party. The Dems. Many of those Dems had to be bribed and threatened by their bosses to pass this clusterfuck of a bill.

Those same Dems ignored their constituants who were clogging the phone line to DC to protest this bill. They passed it anyway.

This bill will cost anyone with HC up the ass and anyone who doesn't think this is an idiot in my book.

Another massive entitlement that someone else will be paying for.

Yeah. I can see Barry gloating over his HC bill on the campaign trail. NOT

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

Yes, and we want E-Coli for everyone.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Where my $2,500 or was it 2,500% saving, from switching to Obamacare?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Signature "acheivement" ??? LOL

The largest tax increase on the middle class in American history for another bankrupt socialist ponzi scheme...........What welfare parasite wouldnt think so ?

 

[mudwhistle]

Signature "acheivement" ??? LOL

The largest tax increase on the middle class in American history for another bankrupt socialist ponzi scheme...........What welfare parasite wouldnt think so ?

One of Cass Sunstein's non-governmental experts like Greenbeard.

 

[Oldstyle]

Have you noticed the "landslide" of other Democrats rushing to run on ObamaCare? No? Gee, wonder why that is? Could it be that they know ObamaCare didn't fix health care and that the American people are catching on to how bad a piece of legislation it really is? Barry will run on it because the only thing he cares about is getting reelected in 90 days. The average Democratic Congressman or Senator is thinking about being linked to this albatross years down the road when it's real costs become apparent and they're avoiding it like the plague.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Obama should just enact legislation forcing wealthy folks to adopt welfare dependent leeches........

Provide them with all the love and money they wish for.............lol

 

[Dutch]

Oh yeah. This clusterfuck of a bill was passed by one party. The Dems. Many of those Dems had to be bribed and threatened by their bosses to pass this clusterfuck of a bill.

Those same Dems ignored their constituants who were clogging the phone line to DC to protest this bill. They passed it anyway.

This bill will cost anyone with HC up the ass and anyone who doesn't think this is an idiot in my book.

Another massive entitlement that someone else will be paying for.

Yeah. I can see Barry gloating over his HC bill on the campaign trail. NOT

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

omg, were is my duty to work and take care of the have nots?
they have as much opportunity in this country to make themselves the HAVES
well they don't so much today with this administation

You should definitely care. "Have nots" tend to get real angry when the gap between them and the "haves" gets larger and larger. History has proven this time and time again.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

omg, were is my duty to work and take care of the have nots?
they have as much opportunity in this country to make themselves the HAVES
well they don't so much today with this administation

You should definitely care. "Have nots" tend to get real angry when the gap between them and the "haves" gets larger and larger. History has proven this time and time again.

Fuck off you Bolshevik cocksucker

 

[Claudette]

He has the air of a winner. As he should: he succeeded where many others have failed, overcoming a nihilistic minority in Congress and a conservative Court to reform a broken health care system.

It's good to see he's asserting himself on the stump. And amusing to see Romney shrinking away from the issue.

Oh yeah. This clusterfuck of a bill was passed by one party. The Dems. Many of those Dems had to be bribed and threatened by their bosses to pass this clusterfuck of a bill.

Those same Dems ignored their constituants who were clogging the phone line to DC to protest this bill. They passed it anyway.

This bill will cost anyone with HC up the ass and anyone who doesn't think this is an idiot in my book.

Another massive entitlement that someone else will be paying for.

Yeah. I can see Barry gloating over his HC bill on the campaign trail. NOT

The only reason conservatives consider it a "clusterfuck" is because the clusterfuck they offered as an alternative to HillaryCare wasn't ever a serious alternative.

What conservatives want..is a nation of haves and have nots.

If you have not..you are fucked.

Simple as that.

Since when am I obligated to take care of someone elses responsibilities?? Since when should I have to spend MY MONEY on someone elses HC or anything else??

Have nots obviously don't want to work to HAVE.

I'd say those of us providing the largess are the once getting fucked.