And there are paths they can take such as medicaid and medicare
Your ER response matters not to me as it paints your premise as false.
To question you for a minute. Are you for government forceable taking money from one person to give to another. How about forcing a person to provide a service at the fee the govt dictates. You can see the dark path this will lead down.
We are a very giving country when we are not forced to give, whether it be money or services. Please don't go down the infrastructure argument as I have no problem paying taxes for community services.
Do you know what medicare is? Its only applicable if you are 65 or above. Thats not a "path you can take" if you aren't 65.
As for medicaid, my girlfriend was denied a while ago from medicaid. She was single, living alone, making $12,000 in New York City. Now $12,000 in NYC is nothing...I pay more than that in rent on just a room in an apt for myself every year. But regardless, she was denied medicaid.
She also couldn't afford doctors visits. This isn't an isolated problem.
Am I for the government taking money from the rich and giving to the poor? Yes. I am. We live in a wealthy country. There is no, none at all, excuse for individuals to be living in such shitty conditions.
If we are such a giving country, then why are there so many impoverished people in this country?
As for infrastructure, those aren't exactly "community" services. Unless you think the interstate highway system, an infrastructure system that has been a huge boon to economic conditions around the country, are somehow a community service.
Social services in this country are fucking horrible. Don't give me the shit that its so easy to live in this country if you are poor unless you have some experience with it. And sorry, but no, you are incredibly wrong about your ignorant idea that people don't get turned away from healthcare. They do. All the fucking time.
I do know what medicare is and who gets it. Big surprise, people over 65 need services too. This is not Robin Hood and the money govt takes does not all come from the rich. There are strong sides to this discussion. I could go down the path of people gaming the system with welfare kids, illegals jamming up the ER for doctor visits and etc.
Nice non-sequiter. Medicare is good, but it does not go far enough. Oh do go into the whole people scamming the system bit. That shit is marginal. Same with illegals in the ER visits.
People do not get turned away at the ER without health insurance. Please stop with the lie. I never stated it was carried any further than the ER.
You said:
No one in this country is turned away from medical treatment....No One
So yes. You did say it carried further than ER. Since ER will not treat all medical issues, people are turned away in this country from medical treatment. That you can't admit this simple fact is pathetic on your part.
There are legitimate people who need healthcare. There are legitimate problems in the HC industry; but the are also healthy, capable people living off govt disability and "gaming" the system. The problem is too deep and wide to discuss fully on a message board.
Right. Because government disability is so fucking lucrative that these people just want to live off it for the rest of their lives. Ugh.
You still have to ask yourself the question, what does the USA do when the providers (rich) can/will no longer provide? If you don't get rid of the corruption and just continue to push for more free services, we will reach a critical mass time.
Please point to evidence that there is systemic corruption. The US has incredibly low taxes. The crap about how we couldn't survive and we would reach critical mass is bullshit.