rightwinger
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Hopefully History will record the truth of the matter. And that's all this administrations BS is worth.
It already is.
Starting with the justification for invasion, inept handling of the invasion with insufficient troops to stabilize the nation, early declaration of victory, miscalculation of the political situation in Iraq... History will not be kind..........only acknowledging the President who finally got us out of this mistake
1. Justification for the invasion, Clinton appointee Tenet says it is a "slam dunk" that Saddam had WMDs. It was a bi-partisan war, just look at who all voted to invade Iraq.
2. Inept? The war took about 2-weeks and had a coalition of about 47 nations. The nationbuilding was done to avoid an Iraqi civil war.
3. What early declaration of victory? I hope you're not referring to the "mission accomplished" sign on that returning carrier. hint: their mission was accomplished, hence the trip home.
4. The only miscalculation was by Obama and Biden who opposed the surge.
5. The timetable for withdrawl was established by Malaki & Bush. Obama just needs to avoid tripping to the podium when announcing the withdrawl is complete. (Obama didn't do anything in Iraq. He approved more troops to AFG, I hope that works out as well as Iraq)
1. Justification? Hasn't that been settled? Bush's "The smoking gun will be a musshroom cloud" was used to justify an immediate invasion when all CURRENT intel said Iraq was no immediate threat. UN Inspector repeatedly told Bush there were no WMDs and that if given a few months he could prove it. Bush invaded so that he would not lose his excuse
2. Sorry, the war did not take two weeks. we are still there seven years later. Army Chief of Staff Shinseki accurately predicted we would need several 100,000 troops to invade and stabilize Iraq. Bush refused to acknowledge the Iraq was a tougher fight than he had been projecting and fired Shinseki. Your 47 nation "Coalition of the Willing' consisted of the US, Britain and 45 nations just looking for US aid. Even Canada would not support us on this boondoggle
As Army Chief of Staff, General Shinseki testified to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that "something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers" would probably be required for postwar Iraq. This was an estimate far higher than the figure being proposed by Secretary Rumsfeld in his invasion plan, and it was rejected in strong language by both Rumsfeld and his Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, who was another chief planner of the invasion and occupation
If Bush had listened to his Army Chief of Staff there would have been no need for a "surge" and the war would have wrapped up by now
3. Nice spin on the "Mission Accomplished" America is not buying it. We know the intent of that sign
4. No, the miscalculation was on the "they will treat us as liberators", the failure to predict and prevent Sunni/ Shiite/ Kurd infighting, failure to put enough boots on the ground to prevent a civil war
5. Bush had five years to accomplish his mission in Iraq.....He FAILED and left it for Obama to finish
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