Obama Administration defended Pepsi's usage of aborted fetal tissue to flavor their


You'd think by now people would be smart enough to check this stuff out first before getting outraged over something so ridiculous on its face.

Even Snopes can lie to you. You've been presented with the ORIGINAL FEDERAL DOCUMENTS from the Security and Exchange Commission. Enjoy.

I see you continue to be unable to quote the parts of that document which you think proves you right.

That's because you are wrong. :lol:

There is no fetal tissue in any Pepsi product. Too bad you don't understand your own link.
 
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You'd think by now people would be smart enough to check this stuff out first before getting outraged over something so ridiculous on its face.

Even Snopes can lie to you. You've been presented with the ORIGINAL FEDERAL DOCUMENTS from the Security and Exchange Commission. Enjoy.

I see you continue to be unable to quote the parts of that document which you think proves you right.

That's because you are wrong. :lol:

There is no fetal tissue in any Pepsi product. Too bad you don't understand your own link.

Page 2 and Page 5. Probably more too:

February 28,2012
Response of the Office of Chief Counsel
Division of CorDoration Finance
Re: PepsiCo, Inc.
Incoming letter dated January 3, 2012
The proposal requests that the board adopt a corporate policy that recognizes human rights and employs ethical standards which do not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements.

The Proposal states: Resolved: Shareholders request that the Board of Directors adopt a corporate policy that recognizes human rights and employs ethical standards which do not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements. A copy of the Proposal, as well as related correspondence from the Proponent, is attached to this letter as Exhibit A.

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That proposal requested the formation of a committee "to more fully explore the ethical and business implications of further research involving cells or cell lines that are the result of the destruction of human embryos." The Staff concurred that the proposal could be excluded under Rule 14a-8(i)(7), noting that the proposal implicated Pfizer's "ordinary business operations (i . e., product research, development and testing)." Similarly, in Merck & Co (avail Jan . 23, 1997), the Staff concurred in the exclusion of a proposal seeking the formation of a committee "to study ways to eliminate the use of human fetal tissue obtained from elective abortions in the research, development, and testing of the company's products," noting that it related to "product research, development and testing."

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GIBSON DUNN Office of Chief Counsel Division of Corporation Finance January 3,2012 Page 6 proposal directing the company, in part, to develop a code of conduct to address "unequal bottler treatment" because the proposal related, in part, to "developing a code of ethics"); Costco Wholesale Corp . (avail. Dec. 11,2003) (concurring in the exclusion of a proposal requesting the development of a "Code of Ethics that would also address issues of bribery and corruption" because the proposal related to the "terms of[the company's] code of ethics"). The Proposal seeks the adoption of a corporate policy that "employs ethical standards." It goes on to specify that the "ethical standards" in the policy should "not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements.

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"take steps to assure that all products in which General Electric is involved and that have used in research , development, manufacture, or testing, cells or materials taken from human embryos or fetuses, carryon their label the information that embryonic/fetal cells/materials were used in research, development, manufacture, or testing, as appropriate")

concurring in the exclusion of a proposal requesting the formation of a committee "to study ways to eliminate the use of human fetal tissue obtained from elective abortions in the research, development and testing of the [c]ompany's products"); Hospital Corp. of America (avail. Feb. 12, 1986) (concurring in the exclusion of a proposal seeking to prohibit the performance of abortions at the company's facilities).

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imilar to the PetSmart and Bank of America proposals, the Proposal broadly covers issues that are not related to any potential significant policy issue . It requests the adoption of a corporate policy that employs ethical standards, the only restriction on the standards being that they cannot involve "using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements." That sole restriction leaves a large universe of ethical standards that could permissibly be included in the corporate policy.

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s. Accordingly, members of the human species who cannot give informed consent fOT research should. not be the subjects of anexperitncnt unless they may benefit from it OT the experimenlcarties il0 significant risk of harming them
 
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As the article in the OP states, there is no fetal material in Pepsi.

Read page 2, page 5, 9 10 and 11.

It doesn't say anything about human tissue being consumed. That's just your imagination.

Do we need to quote the passages again?

February 28,2012
Response of the Office of Chief Counsel
Division of CorDoration Finance
Re: PepsiCo, Inc.
Incoming letter dated January 3, 2012
The proposal requests that the board adopt a corporate policy that recognizes human rights and employs ethical standards which do not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements.

The Proposal states: Resolved: Shareholders request that the Board of Directors adopt a corporate policy that recognizes human rights and employs ethical standards which do not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements. A copy of the Proposal, as well as related correspondence from the Proponent, is attached to this letter as Exhibit A.

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That proposal requested the formation of a committee "to more fully explore the ethical and business implications of further research involving cells or cell lines that are the result of the destruction of human embryos." The Staff concurred that the proposal could be excluded under Rule 14a-8(i)(7), noting that the proposal implicated Pfizer's "ordinary business operations (i . e., product research, development and testing)." Similarly, in Merck & Co (avail Jan . 23, 1997), the Staff concurred in the exclusion of a proposal seeking the formation of a committee "to study ways to eliminate the use of human fetal tissue obtained from elective abortions in the research, development, and testing of the company's products," noting that it related to "product research, development and testing."

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GIBSON DUNN Office of Chief Counsel Division of Corporation Finance January 3,2012 Page 6 proposal directing the company, in part, to develop a code of conduct to address "unequal bottler treatment" because the proposal related, in part, to "developing a code of ethics"); Costco Wholesale Corp . (avail. Dec. 11,2003) (concurring in the exclusion of a proposal requesting the development of a "Code of Ethics that would also address issues of bribery and corruption" because the proposal related to the "terms of[the company's] code of ethics"). The Proposal seeks the adoption of a corporate policy that "employs ethical standards." It goes on to specify that the "ethical standards" in the policy should "not involve using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements.

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"take steps to assure that all products in which General Electric is involved and that have used in research , development, manufacture, or testing, cells or materials taken from human embryos or fetuses, carryon their label the information that embryonic/fetal cells/materials were used in research, development, manufacture, or testing, as appropriate")

concurring in the exclusion of a proposal requesting the formation of a committee "to study ways to eliminate the use of human fetal tissue obtained from elective abortions in the research, development and testing of the [c]ompany's products"); Hospital Corp. of America (avail. Feb. 12, 1986) (concurring in the exclusion of a proposal seeking to prohibit the performance of abortions at the company's facilities).

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Similar to the PetSmart and Bank of America proposals, the Proposal broadly covers issues that are not related to any potential significant policy issue . It requests the adoption of a corporate policy that employs ethical standards, the only restriction on the standards being that they cannot involve "using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements." That sole restriction leaves a large universe of ethical standards that could permissibly be included in the corporate policy.

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s. Accordingly, members of the human species who cannot give informed consent fOT research should. not be the subjects of anexperitncnt unless they may benefit from it OT the experimenlcarties il0 significant risk of harming them
 
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Read page 2, page 5, 9 10 and 11.

It doesn't say anything about human tissue being consumed. That's just your imagination.

Do we need to quote the passages again?





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Similar to the PetSmart and Bank of America proposals, the Proposal broadly covers issues that are not related to any potential significant policy issue . It requests the adoption of a corporate policy that employs ethical standards, the only restriction on the standards being that they cannot involve "using the remains of aborted human beings in both private and collaborative research and development agreements." That sole restriction leaves a large universe of ethical standards that could permissibly be included in the corporate policy.

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s. Accordingly, members of the human species who cannot give informed consent fOT research should. not be the subjects of anexperitncnt unless they may benefit from it OT the experimenlcarties il0 significant risk of harming them

First 4 quotes are from a Stockholder PROPOSAL to restrict the company from doing those things.. Not an admission.. Pepsi is merely QUOTING the proposal and asking the SEC for permission to exclude it from it's meeting votes. Other are the Pepsi counsel quoting the actions of OTHER companies when faced with similiar stockholder submitted proposals.

I remember reading a weak-ass legalized statement that Pepsi does not do these things. But it isn't worth much..

You are reading something into those quotes which they are not.

There are a couple organizations going around submitting similiar proposals to MANY big companies.. That's the way corporations allow stockholders access to the process.

Pepsi probably figured that this thing just might pass. And ran to the SEC for cover.

But there is no information in ANY OF THIS about the actual use of fetal materials in products.
 
But there is no information in ANY OF THIS about the actual use of fetal materials in products.

Because this is only what we've managed to declassify with FOIA requests thus far, we're still pushing it.

And if you didn't notice, it was approved by the S&E Commission.

I could tell you things that would make your hair curl.

The southern humidity makes my hair curl naturally..

You ARE RIGHT --- that Pepsi got a favorable ruling from Obama's SEC to telll the stockholders to go take a piss. Wouldn't have happened under Bush.. But there is very little in there to determine how many times Pepsi R&D used fetal samples.

Don't really CARE.. Because it's not likely to ever happen again.. And that's why I think you're just getting your blood pressure up for nothing here..
 
But there is no information in ANY OF THIS about the actual use of fetal materials in products.

Because this is only what we've managed to declassify with FOIA requests thus far, we're still pushing it.

And if you didn't notice, it was approved by the S&E Commission.

I could tell you things that would make your hair curl.

SEC court filings are not "classified", and these documents don't say what you think they do.
 
SEC court filings are not "classified", and these documents don't say what you think they do.

First it was "conspiracy theory."

Then it was "denial"

Now it's "you don't know how to read."

Coming from the same Libtards how cannot read.

"Shall not be infringed."

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Not to mention the HEK cell line is actually (100% confirmed) being used in OTHER PRODUCTS (like shampoo)
 
You ARE RIGHT --- that Pepsi got a favorable ruling from Obama's SEC to telll the stockholders to go take a piss. Wouldn't have happened under Bush.. But there is very little in there to determine how many times Pepsi R&D used fetal samples.

Don't really CARE.. Because it's not likely to ever happen again.. And that's why I think you're just getting your blood pressure up for nothing here..

No, the reason I want to keep this story relevant is because it totally annihilates people's innocent misconceptions about how the "Government loves us." It is stories like these, with documented proof, that cause philosophical shifts in those who were once naive.

Even if the lesser charge, made by g5000 and yourself is entirely correct, IT IS STILL UTTERLY REVOLTING AND DISGUSTING.
 

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