Nothing fishy here, nothing to see move along.

[RetiredGySgt]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

 

[guno]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

 

[RetiredGySgt]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

 

[guno]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

And that is why you were a lifer
LIFER, Lazy Ignorant Fellow Expecting Retirement

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

And that is why you were a lifer
LIFER, Lazy Ignorant Fellow Expecting Retirement

Fuck you loser.

 

[HenryBHough]

Guy at the coffee shop this morning was going back to the VA hospital.

Several weeks ago he had rotator cuff surgery and the pain didn't go away. They found a staple left inside him. So they removed it and, a week later the pain hadn't gone away.

Mystified they did a new MRI.

Discovered they HAD removed the staple.

But they also discovered they had operated on the wrong shoulder so his pain was the original one.

Damn fool is going to let them work on him again. He'll be lucky to have a shoulder left unless they get maybe a hip this time.

 

[Mr. H.]

The pattern of large Medicare payments and six-figure political donations shows up among several of the doctors whose payment records were released for the first time this week by the Department of Health and Human Services. For years, the department refused to make the data public, and finally did so only after being sued by The Wall Street Journal.

 

[MeBelle]

The political donations, Dr. Qamar said, are unrelated to the Medicare scrutiny, but he acknowledged he had reached out to lawmakers in Congress to persuade the federal government to back down.

WUT??

 

[strollingbones]

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

And that is why you were a lifer
LIFER, Lazy Ignorant Fellow Expecting Retirement

o my my ....if you only knew how wrong you are about this....my father could have retired before either of his tours of vietnam....when ask why he didnt..as many nco's had done...his reply was simply....you had to have leadership in the field or else you had a bunch of kids fresh out of boot camp ...dying .....he felt that he had been treated well by the military and did not feel it was right to just jump ship when the real fighting began....

you should really be rethinking your definitions....

 

[Gracie]

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

And that is why you were a lifer
LIFER, Lazy Ignorant Fellow Expecting Retirement

Fuck you loser.

Now now Sarge. Were you not just raggin' me earlier today for supposedly being rude to those who did not agree with my opinion? And yet..here you are...being rude due to someone not agreeing with you. Tsk tsk.

 

[Howey]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

You are horribly wrong, as I've proven elsewhere.

But thanks for refusing VA care. Now only the vets who DESERVE it will get it. You don't.

 

[USNavyVet]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

It may be, as you say, the best socialist system in the world but it is far below the standard in the civilian sector. Well that is until dumbasses who don't have a clue destroy the civilian sector medical care.

 

[dblack]

Corporatism uber alles.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

And that is why you were a lifer
LIFER, Lazy Ignorant Fellow Expecting Retirement

Fuck you loser.

Now now Sarge. Were you not just raggin' me earlier today for supposedly being rude to those who did not agree with my opinion? And yet..here you are...being rude due to someone not agreeing with you. Tsk tsk.

Did I threaten him? Did I start a thread in announcements asking mods to ban or censure him?

 

[Gracie]

Fuck you loser.

Now now Sarge. Were you not just raggin' me earlier today for supposedly being rude to those who did not agree with my opinion? And yet..here you are...being rude due to someone not agreeing with you. Tsk tsk.

Did I threaten him? Did I start a thread in announcements asking mods to ban or censure him?

Does it matter? Practice what you preach, otherwise you look foolish. You insist I am rude to people who don't agree with me. What do you call what you just did? Now scramble around to try to make it look different we both know it isn't.

 

[Howey]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/political-ties-top-billers-medicare-053637053.html

A doctor under investigation for fraud calls a Senator to get out of it and no one sees a problem? He triple bills for one medication and nothing is done except to try and make him pay it back? He has a close relationship with the people that run medicare and no one sees a problem?

And guess which party these people support? And guess which party refused to release the list until forced to by a court?

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

It may be, as you say, the best socialist system in the world but it is far below the standard in the civilian sector. Well that is until dumbasses who don't have a clue destroy the civilian sector medical care.

Lying dimwit.

Government run Heath care at it's best. Just think how bad it will be with 300 million people on Heath care run by the U.S. federal government

Since 9/11 almost 1,000 veterans have died due to negligence in the veterans health-care system. After lengthy legal battles the VA is finally making payments to their families.

An Iraq War veteran with post-traumatic stress disorder and a history of drug dependency is found dead on the floor of his room at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hospital in West Los Angeles after doctors give him a 30-day supply of the anti-anxiety medication alprazolam and a 15-day supply of methadone.


In Shreveport, La., a veteran overdoses on morphine while housed in a locked VA psychiatric unit. In a Minnesota VA psych ward, a veteran shoots himself in the head. In Portland, Ore., a delusional veteran jumps off the roof of the VA hospital.

These are some of the deaths that resulted in more than $200 million in wrongful death payments by the Department of Veterans Affairs in the decade after 9/11, according to VA data obtained by The Center for Investigative Reporting.

In that time, CIR found the agency made wrongful death payments to nearly 1,000 grieving families, ranging from decorated Iraq War veterans who shot or hanged themselves after being turned away from mental health treatment, to Vietnam veterans whose cancerous tumors were identified but allowed to grow, to missed diagnoses, botched surgeries and fatal neglect of elderly veterans.

“It wasn’t about the money, I just thought somebody should be held accountable,” said 86-year-old Doris Street, who received a $135,000 settlement in 2010 as compensation for the 2008 death of her brother, Carl Glaze. The median payment in VA wrongful death cases was $150,00

Seeing as how the City of New York paid out $135 million year in similar claims in 2010 and civilian hospitals pay out over $300 million each year, not to mention the $280 million each year paid by private practice physicians, that number for a ten year period isn't such a horrible number.


You, and the Daily Beast, can scream all you want, but it's been consistently proven that the medical care provided by the VA is the best in the nation.

It's hard to top veterans' health care - Vital Signs - MarketWatch



The Best Care Anywhere - Phillip Longman

First. This is the cause of your claim. I dare to note the precipitious rise in VA patients after the beginning of the Iraq/Afghan wars, started by George Bush.

Ten years ago, veterans hospitals were dangerous, dirty, and scandal-ridden. Today, they're producing the highest quality care in the country. Their turnaround points the way toward solving America's health-care crisis.

Now, for the truth:

Yet here's a curious fact that few conservatives or liberals know. Who do you think receives higher-quality health care. Medicare patients who are free to pick their own doctors and specialists? Or aging veterans stuck in those presumably filthy VA hospitals with their antiquated equipment, uncaring administrators, and incompetent staff? An answer came in 2003, when the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine published a study that compared veterans health facilities on 11 measures of quality with fee-for-service Medicare. On all 11 measures, the quality of care in veterans facilities proved to be "significantly better."

Here's another curious fact. The Annals of Internal Medicine recently published a study that compared veterans health facilities with commercial managed-care systems in their treatment of diabetes patients. In seven out of seven measures of quality, the VA provided better care.

It gets stranger. Pushed by large employers who are eager to know what they are buying when they purchase health care for their employees, an outfit called the National Committee for Quality Assurance today ranks health-care plans on 17 different performance measures. These include how well the plans manage high blood pressure or how precisely they adhere to standard protocols of evidence-based medicine such as prescribing beta blockers for patients recovering from a heart attack. Winning NCQA's seal of approval is the gold standard in the health-care industry. And who do you suppose this year's winner is: Johns Hopkins? Mayo Clinic? Massachusetts General? Nope. In every single category, the VHA system outperforms the highest rated non-VHA hospitals.

Not convinced? Consider what vets themselves think. Sure, it's not hard to find vets who complain about difficulties in establishing eligibility. Many are outraged that the Bush administration has decided to deny previously promised health-care benefits to veterans who don't have service-related illnesses or who can't meet a strict means test. Yet these grievances are about access to the system, not about the quality of care received by those who get in. Veterans groups tenaciously defend the VHA and applaud its turnaround. "The quality of care is outstanding," says Peter Gayton, deputy director for veterans affairs and rehabilitation at the American Legion. In the latest independent survey, 81 percent of VHA hospital patients express satisfaction with the care they receive, compared to 77 percent of Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Outside experts agree that the VHA has become an industry leader in its safety and quality measures. Dr. Donald M. Berwick, president of the Institute for Health Care Improvement and one of the nation's top health-care quality experts, praises the VHA's information technology as "spectacular." The venerable Institute of Medicine notes that the VHA's "integrated health information system, including its framework for using performance measures to improve quality, is considered one of the best in the nation."

 

[USNavyVet]

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

It may be, as you say, the best socialist system in the world but it is far below the standard in the civilian sector. Well that is until dumbasses who don't have a clue destroy the civilian sector medical care.

Lying dimwit.

Seeing as how the City of New York paid out $135 million year in similar claims in 2010 and civilian hospitals pay out over $300 million each year, not to mention the $280 million each year paid by private practice physicians, that number for a ten year period isn't such a horrible number.


You, and the Daily Beast, can scream all you want, but it's been consistently proven that the medical care provided by the VA is the best in the nation.

It's hard to top veterans' health care - Vital Signs - MarketWatch



The Best Care Anywhere - Phillip Longman

First. This is the cause of your claim. I dare to note the precipitious rise in VA patients after the beginning of the Iraq/Afghan wars, started by George Bush.



Now, for the truth:

Yet here's a curious fact that few conservatives or liberals know. Who do you think receives higher-quality health care. Medicare patients who are free to pick their own doctors and specialists? Or aging veterans stuck in those presumably filthy VA hospitals with their antiquated equipment, uncaring administrators, and incompetent staff? An answer came in 2003, when the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine published a study that compared veterans health facilities on 11 measures of quality with fee-for-service Medicare. On all 11 measures, the quality of care in veterans facilities proved to be "significantly better."

Here's another curious fact. The Annals of Internal Medicine recently published a study that compared veterans health facilities with commercial managed-care systems in their treatment of diabetes patients. In seven out of seven measures of quality, the VA provided better care.

It gets stranger. Pushed by large employers who are eager to know what they are buying when they purchase health care for their employees, an outfit called the National Committee for Quality Assurance today ranks health-care plans on 17 different performance measures. These include how well the plans manage high blood pressure or how precisely they adhere to standard protocols of evidence-based medicine such as prescribing beta blockers for patients recovering from a heart attack. Winning NCQA's seal of approval is the gold standard in the health-care industry. And who do you suppose this year's winner is: Johns Hopkins? Mayo Clinic? Massachusetts General? Nope. In every single category, the VHA system outperforms the highest rated non-VHA hospitals.

Not convinced? Consider what vets themselves think. Sure, it's not hard to find vets who complain about difficulties in establishing eligibility. Many are outraged that the Bush administration has decided to deny previously promised health-care benefits to veterans who don't have service-related illnesses or who can't meet a strict means test. Yet these grievances are about access to the system, not about the quality of care received by those who get in. Veterans groups tenaciously defend the VHA and applaud its turnaround. "The quality of care is outstanding," says Peter Gayton, deputy director for veterans affairs and rehabilitation at the American Legion. In the latest independent survey, 81 percent of VHA hospital patients express satisfaction with the care they receive, compared to 77 percent of Medicare and Medicaid patients.

Outside experts agree that the VHA has become an industry leader in its safety and quality measures. Dr. Donald M. Berwick, president of the Institute for Health Care Improvement and one of the nation's top health-care quality experts, praises the VHA's information technology as "spectacular." The venerable Institute of Medicine notes that the VHA's "integrated health information system, including its framework for using performance measures to improve quality, is considered one of the best in the nation."

Those of us who were in the military know how crappy the medical service is and you can spout all the propaganda you'd like and still not change that fact.

 

[Iceweasel]

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

He has no clue what he's talking about. I grew up an military brat, served four years and worked at the VA hospital while in college. I saw a guy in ICU getting CPR from the new gal, petite, needed some on the job experience. ICU beds are tall for easy access. She didn't have much leverage needless to say. I went back in a short time later and one of the guys watching was working furiously on him but Bubba was flatlining. Oh well, got an empty bed now.

It may be, as you say, the best socialist system in the world but it is far below the standard in the civilian sector. Well that is until dumbasses who don't have a clue destroy the civilian sector medical care.

Instead of making military care better they decided to make everything else worse. Sort of like their economic solutions.

 

[Howey]

It may be, as you say, the best socialist system in the world but it is far below the standard in the civilian sector. Well that is until dumbasses who don't have a clue destroy the civilian sector medical care.

Lying dimwit.

Seeing as how the City of New York paid out $135 million year in similar claims in 2010 and civilian hospitals pay out over $300 million each year, not to mention the $280 million each year paid by private practice physicians, that number for a ten year period isn't such a horrible number.


You, and the Daily Beast, can scream all you want, but it's been consistently proven that the medical care provided by the VA is the best in the nation.

It's hard to top veterans' health care - Vital Signs - MarketWatch



The Best Care Anywhere - Phillip Longman

First. This is the cause of your claim. I dare to note the precipitious rise in VA patients after the beginning of the Iraq/Afghan wars, started by George Bush.



Now, for the truth:

Those of us who were in the military know how crappy the medical service is and you can spout all the propaganda you'd like and still not change that fact.

Newsflash! I'm retired military with a 100% disability rating and receive all my medical care free at the VA.

So kindly shut the fuck up and educate your ignorant ass.

 

[Howey]

Got a solution, just have a medical care system like the military has an you have

The military the best socialist system in the world

The VA kills people every year, has crappy doctors, poor service and bad facilities. I don't use the VA.

As for the military they are chronically short staffed and do not have the latest medication or equipment or procedures. Further they can not handle their assigned task of taking care of the active duty military and the active duty dependents. Further you would have a revolt in the medical profession if the Government was to pay regular nurses and doctors the pay the military gets. Moron.

He has no clue what he's talking about. I grew up an military brat, served four years and worked at the VA hospital while in college. I saw a guy in ICU getting CPR from the new gal, petite, needed some on the job experience. ICU beds are tall for easy access. She didn't have much leverage needless to say. I went back in a short time later and one of the guys watching was working furiously on him but Bubba was flatlining. Oh well, got an empty bed now.

It may be, as you say, the best socialist system in the world but it is far below the standard in the civilian sector. Well that is until dumbasses who don't have a clue destroy the civilian sector medical care.

Instead of making military care better they decided to make everything else worse. Sort of like their economic solutions.

So what did you get kicked out for?