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Poppy, you don't get it. Only think it is better to be murdered by cars than guns. That makes no sense.
You cannot show that murder rates by gun in the UK is much less in number and per capital than in the US.
The above is a wonderful fallacy of false equivalency.
A for effort, F for effectivenss
Poppy, you don't get it. Only think it is better to be murdered by cars than guns. That makes no sense.
You cannot show that murder rates by gun in the UK is much less in number and per capital than in the US.
Pop, you describe yourself well. You are talking about murder and cars, and I am talking guns, too. I bet murder in the UK by cars and guns are much less per capita and in number than the US. The laws on guns are why they are so law in UK.Poppy, you don't get it. Only think it is better to be murdered by cars than guns. That makes no sense.
You cannot show that murder rates by gun in the UK is much less in number and per capital than in the US.
What the hell are you babbling about. You can't answer the question because that admits that a gun is not a requirement to Murder. That is gutless Jake Just sayin.
please post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
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A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Pop, you describe yourself well. You are talking about murder and cars, and I am talking guns, too. I bet murder in the UK by cars and guns are much less per capita and in number than the US. The laws on guns are why they are so law in UK.Poppy, you don't get it. Only think it is better to be murdered by cars than guns. That makes no sense.
You cannot show that murder rates by gun in the UK is much less in number and per capital than in the US.
What the hell are you babbling about. You can't answer the question because that admits that a gun is not a requirement to Murder. That is gutless Jake Just sayin.
AvgGuy is using numbers in a silly way as well. The numbers are simple: regardless of blips going up or down, the gun murder rate in UK is preposterously low compared to the US.
please post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
please post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
please post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
death by gun and car...murder and accidents...cars are deadlier than guns...
Accidents....
Fatal Injury Data | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC
2016
Gun.....495
Car.......38,748
Gun murder since the CDC doesn't give good numbers for vehicular homicide...
2016...
11,004
So...even with accidents and intentional use of a gun to commit murder...cars kill more people....
but France's murder rate is many times lower than the USplease post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Why, when the point is, Killers kill. They don't care what the tool is, they use whats available. If they want to kill a large number at one time, they can find a suitable tool. In Nice France, it was a Truck, in Austrailia (linked earlier), it was a car.
They are far more creative than you and Jakey
but France's murder rate is many times lower than the USplease post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Why, when the point is, Killers kill. They don't care what the tool is, they use whats available. If they want to kill a large number at one time, they can find a suitable tool. In Nice France, it was a Truck, in Austrailia (linked earlier), it was a car.
They are far more creative than you and Jakey
Australia's murder rate is many times lower than the US
again, if guns stop murders/crime--the US should have the lowest murder rate of any country--but they have one of the highest in the developed countriesbut France's murder rate is many times lower than the USplease post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Why, when the point is, Killers kill. They don't care what the tool is, they use whats available. If they want to kill a large number at one time, they can find a suitable tool. In Nice France, it was a Truck, in Austrailia (linked earlier), it was a car.
They are far more creative than you and Jakey
Australia's murder rate is many times lower than the US
You don't understand...... their criminals have guns..... they have guns...do you understand that? That means they have guns.... they do not use them to commit murder......that is a cultural difference between their criminals and our criminals.....
The gun crime rate in Australia is going up, not down......our gun murder rate is going down, not up.....
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
again, if guns stop murders/crime--the US should have the lowest murder rate of any country--but they have one of the highest in the developed countriesbut France's murder rate is many times lower than the USplease post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Why, when the point is, Killers kill. They don't care what the tool is, they use whats available. If they want to kill a large number at one time, they can find a suitable tool. In Nice France, it was a Truck, in Austrailia (linked earlier), it was a car.
They are far more creative than you and Jakey
Australia's murder rate is many times lower than the US
You don't understand...... their criminals have guns..... they have guns...do you understand that? That means they have guns.... they do not use them to commit murder......that is a cultural difference between their criminals and our criminals.....
The gun crime rate in Australia is going up, not down......our gun murder rate is going down, not up.....
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
]The murder rate in UK has always been low, and it has not gained any increase significantly.
So I am asking 2aguy to post a yearly murder rate by gun from 1968 to now, a fifty year graph.
If he can't do it, then he simply does not understand the topic.
again, if guns stop murders/crime--the US should have the lowest murder rate of any country--but they have one of the highest in the developed countriesbut France's murder rate is many times lower than the USplease post the number of people murdered by cars vs gunsFather intentionally crashes into restaurant, killing daughter: Police
"
A father allegedly sat his family near the front door of a restaurant in North Carolina on Sunday, then promptly left, got in his car and plowed full speed into them on purpose, according to police and eyewitnesses. Two people were killed in the crash, police said.
Roger Self, 62, has been charged with two counts of murder over the alleged incident in which his daughter, Katelyn, and another person sitting at the table were killed, the Gaston County Sheriff's Office said.
Katelyn Self was a deputy with the Gaston County Sheriff's Office. She was off-duty at the time of the crash."
Why isn't anyone blaming the car?
If we only had common sense speed control, limiting cars to no more than 20 mph, this stuff ends, right?
Why, when the point is, Killers kill. They don't care what the tool is, they use whats available. If they want to kill a large number at one time, they can find a suitable tool. In Nice France, it was a Truck, in Austrailia (linked earlier), it was a car.
They are far more creative than you and Jakey
Australia's murder rate is many times lower than the US
You don't understand...... their criminals have guns..... they have guns...do you understand that? That means they have guns.... they do not use them to commit murder......that is a cultural difference between their criminals and our criminals.....
The gun crime rate in Australia is going up, not down......our gun murder rate is going down, not up.....
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
