Norquist Endorses Trumps Tax Plan

That's awesome. Norquist endorsed Bush' plan too.

So what? Which Bush?

All Norquist is concerned about is reducing taxers and not raising them. Do that and he basically will endorse your tax plan.
so that ought to tell you how much his endorsement is worth.

Well, for conservatives it is a big endorsement, and it makes it hard to call Trump a socialist, though some retards do anyway.
why? you said yourself the only criteria is a reduction in taxes. doesn't matter what it would do to the economy, the debt or the deficit, just so long as taxes are cut.

does that sound in any way responsible to you?

Norquist also wants to avoid increasing the deficit, but that isn't his primary concern.

And yes, I think , that the primary problem with our deficits is government spending, not government revenues as both are at record levels. The government just cant tell itself 'no'; it is addicted to tax payer money.
 
That's awesome. Norquist endorsed Bush' plan too.

So what? Which Bush?

All Norquist is concerned about is reducing taxers and not raising them. Do that and he basically will endorse your tax plan.

Right. Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass.
"Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass."

Do you really not understand that this is of some value in the Republican nomination process or are you only acting like an idiot?
i think we all get that it carries value with republicans, we're just damned if we can figure out why

What are the reasons that Republicans give for pursuing these tax policies? Maybe if you actually read what the Republicans had to say on the matter would help you to understand?
 
That's awesome. Norquist endorsed Bush' plan too.

So what? Which Bush?

All Norquist is concerned about is reducing taxers and not raising them. Do that and he basically will endorse your tax plan.
so that ought to tell you how much his endorsement is worth.

Well, for conservatives it is a big endorsement, and it makes it hard to call Trump a socialist, though some retards do anyway.
why? you said yourself the only criteria is a reduction in taxes. doesn't matter what it would do to the economy, the debt or the deficit, just so long as taxes are cut.

does that sound in any way responsible to you?

Norquist also wants to avoid increasing the deficit, but that isn't his primary concern.

And yes, I think , that the primary problem with our deficits is government spending, not government revenues as both are at record levels. The government just cant tell itself 'no'; it is addicted to tax payer money.
would you increase taxes coupled with spending cuts to reduce the deficit?
 
That's awesome. Norquist endorsed Bush' plan too.

So what? Which Bush?

All Norquist is concerned about is reducing taxers and not raising them. Do that and he basically will endorse your tax plan.

Right. Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass.
"Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass."

Do you really not understand that this is of some value in the Republican nomination process or are you only acting like an idiot?
i think we all get that it carries value with republicans, we're just damned if we can figure out why

What are the reasons that Republicans give for pursuing these tax policies? Maybe if you actually read what the Republicans had to say on the matter would help you to understand?
the republicans still think supply side economics works. it doesn't.
 
So what? Which Bush?

All Norquist is concerned about is reducing taxers and not raising them. Do that and he basically will endorse your tax plan.
so that ought to tell you how much his endorsement is worth.

Well, for conservatives it is a big endorsement, and it makes it hard to call Trump a socialist, though some retards do anyway.
why? you said yourself the only criteria is a reduction in taxes. doesn't matter what it would do to the economy, the debt or the deficit, just so long as taxes are cut.

does that sound in any way responsible to you?

Norquist also wants to avoid increasing the deficit, but that isn't his primary concern.

And yes, I think , that the primary problem with our deficits is government spending, not government revenues as both are at record levels. The government just cant tell itself 'no'; it is addicted to tax payer money.
would you increase taxes coupled with spending cuts to reduce the deficit?

No because taxes are too high in and of themselves already.

Even coupled with spending cuts, it wont do more than add more tax payer funds for the government to mismanage.

Taxes need to come down more, and getting there responsibly without causing a devaluation of the currency is the policy that is most needed, I think.
 
Democrats oppose this plan. It has too much detail. They want "hope and change". They are "ready for hiLIARy"

Were Trump a Democrat they would be OK with it.

Such is the partisan bullshit our country now suffers under.
 
so that ought to tell you how much his endorsement is worth.

Well, for conservatives it is a big endorsement, and it makes it hard to call Trump a socialist, though some retards do anyway.
why? you said yourself the only criteria is a reduction in taxes. doesn't matter what it would do to the economy, the debt or the deficit, just so long as taxes are cut.

does that sound in any way responsible to you?

Norquist also wants to avoid increasing the deficit, but that isn't his primary concern.

And yes, I think , that the primary problem with our deficits is government spending, not government revenues as both are at record levels. The government just cant tell itself 'no'; it is addicted to tax payer money.
would you increase taxes coupled with spending cuts to reduce the deficit?

No because taxes are too high in and of themselves already.

Even coupled with spending cuts, it wont do more than add more tax payer funds for the government to mismanage.

Taxes need to come down more, and getting there responsibly without causing a devaluation of the currency is the policy that is most needed, I think.
so you only have one criteria
 
So what? Which Bush?

All Norquist is concerned about is reducing taxers and not raising them. Do that and he basically will endorse your tax plan.

Right. Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass.
"Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass."

Do you really not understand that this is of some value in the Republican nomination process or are you only acting like an idiot?
i think we all get that it carries value with republicans, we're just damned if we can figure out why

What are the reasons that Republicans give for pursuing these tax policies? Maybe if you actually read what the Republicans had to say on the matter would help you to understand?
the republicans still think supply side economics works. it doesn't.

Supply side economics does work in certain circumstances.

What does that economic phrase mean to you, anyway?
 
Realists understand that the gov is spending more than we make and there's no end in sight. Somehow that's gotta stop or we're totally fucked...


Dem's want to pull funds from elsewhere (usually the military) and raise taxes on the wealthy and businesses in order to financially support our poor Americans (and perhaps /all/ americans in specific particular ways; like medical and such.)

Repub's want to cut funding from welfare projects and basically give that cash to businesses in an effort to bring business' back to America and thus provide jobs to the poor.

I think Trumps actually tries to bridge the two political camps with his budget; he gives a little to both business/rich and the less fortunate/struggling American. It's probably not going to fix everything (I'm not sure /any/ tax reform actually could satisfactorily at this point honestly) but it's not a bad compromise.
 
Well, for conservatives it is a big endorsement, and it makes it hard to call Trump a socialist, though some retards do anyway.
why? you said yourself the only criteria is a reduction in taxes. doesn't matter what it would do to the economy, the debt or the deficit, just so long as taxes are cut.

does that sound in any way responsible to you?

Norquist also wants to avoid increasing the deficit, but that isn't his primary concern.

And yes, I think , that the primary problem with our deficits is government spending, not government revenues as both are at record levels. The government just cant tell itself 'no'; it is addicted to tax payer money.
would you increase taxes coupled with spending cuts to reduce the deficit?

No because taxes are too high in and of themselves already.

Even coupled with spending cuts, it wont do more than add more tax payer funds for the government to mismanage.

Taxes need to come down more, and getting there responsibly without causing a devaluation of the currency is the policy that is most needed, I think.
so you only have one criteria

Only one over-riding criteria, and that is tax rates on the middle class go down and that middle class job incentives are put back into our tax code.
 
Realists understand that the gov is spending more than we make and there's no end in sight. Somehow that's gotta stop or we're totally fucked...


Dem's want to pull funds from elsewhere (usually the military) and raise taxes on the wealthy and businesses in order to financially support our poor Americans (and perhaps /all/ americans in specific particular ways; like medical and such.)

Repub's want to cut funding from welfare projects and basically give that cash to businesses in an effort to bring business' back to America and thus provide jobs to the poor.

I think Trumps actually tries to bridge the two political camps with his budget; he gives a little to both business/rich and the less fortunate/struggling American. It's probably not going to fix everything (I'm not sure /any/ tax reform actually could satisfactorily at this point honestly) but it's not a bad compromise.

Yeah, I agree, and one of the things I was wanting to discuss with someone, was that with the international free trade agreements we have now, cutting taxes and seeing a growth in the US economy isn't a given effect any more. W Bush only got minimal pay offs for the US economy when he cut taxes and all most all of that went to immigrants.

With any tax cuts we also need to see heavy incentives for those tax cuts to be spent here in the USA or it is not going to help us one bit.
 
Right. Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass.
"Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass."

Do you really not understand that this is of some value in the Republican nomination process or are you only acting like an idiot?
i think we all get that it carries value with republicans, we're just damned if we can figure out why

What are the reasons that Republicans give for pursuing these tax policies? Maybe if you actually read what the Republicans had to say on the matter would help you to understand?
the republicans still think supply side economics works. it doesn't.

Supply side economics does work in certain circumstances.

What does that economic phrase mean to you, anyway?
and what circumstances are those?
the phrase means trickle down - that putting more money at the top drives the economy when the opposite is true.
 
Democrats oppose this plan. It has too much detail. They want "hope and change". They are "ready for hiLIARy"
it's a fairy tale. you have to see that.

Do you know what a fairy tale is?
yes. the idea that somehow a tax plan with cuts for everyone is revenue neutral. that's a fairy tale.

No, that is not a fairy tale. It is very optimistic, but not a fairy tale.

The economy could grow enough to offset the tax cuts. It happened for the Kennedy and Reagan tax cuts.
 
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"Which makes his endorsement worth about as much as the hair on my ass."

Do you really not understand that this is of some value in the Republican nomination process or are you only acting like an idiot?
i think we all get that it carries value with republicans, we're just damned if we can figure out why

What are the reasons that Republicans give for pursuing these tax policies? Maybe if you actually read what the Republicans had to say on the matter would help you to understand?
the republicans still think supply side economics works. it doesn't.

Supply side economics does work in certain circumstances.

What does that economic phrase mean to you, anyway?
and what circumstances are those?
the phrase means trickle down - that putting more money at the top drives the economy when the opposite is true.
Supply side economics is not 'trickle down' economics, though some use that phrase for just about anything that doesn't give away more tax payer money.

Supply side economics is simply the other side of the economic coin that we get consumer side economics. When Henry Ford observed that when he paid his employees enough for them to buy the cars they made, he pretty much kicked off consumer oriented economic policies as the reigning paradigm for economics till Reagan. Supply side economics says that consumers can buy more products also if the products are cheaper along with the increase in employee pay.

It isn't voodoo.
 

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