No Rapture

[Liminal]

The word rapture appears nowhere in the Bible. Yet so called fundamentalist Christians have somehow created a fanciful interpretation out of Thessalonians that is the foundation of their belief. Where is the theological justification? Talk about stretching a metaphor.......there is no rapture anywhere in the Bible. Therefore so called Christian fundamentalists have no basis for their beliefs.

 

[Missourian]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

 

[RodISHI]

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The disciples seeing Jesus walk after He was crucified; and those who have actually been taken in the spirit to be shown the heavenly realm. The word term rapture is based on the belief of being "caught up" as these things are written about throughout the Bible.

 

[guno]

The Christian fundamentalism movement in American Protestantism arose in the late 19th century in reaction to theological modernism, which aimed to revise traditional Christian beliefs to accommodate new developments in the natural and social sciences, especially the advent of the theory of biological evolution.

Christian fundamentalism | American Protestant movement

 

[HaShev]

And people are caught up in trends, caught up in the fervor of meeting the imposter Holy Father this week.
If they re-read Theslonians knowing biblical terms like "Clouds" they would feel silly.
Theslonians is plagiarizing Daniel whereby son of man comes with or out of the "clouds" meaning: gathering of temple priests.
Moshiach comes out of the lineage of the Kohanim and with
" the gathering of Kohanim" (clouds) during the procession to the temple to come. People are therefore going
"up to Mt. Zion" to this enraptured (caught up inthe fervor) event and gathering (clouds) for the procession of the Moshiach to his temple (Mikdash) in his name. That's why Theslonians says the call to the Temple is from the shout of the top messenger (head of hosts) Michael who's name is in the temple and who Daniel said was the redeemer to come who gave him his visions to come.
-Dan 12:1-4

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The word rapture appears nowhere in the Bible. Yet so called fundamentalist Christians have somehow created a fanciful interpretation out of Thessalonians that is the foundation of their belief. Where is the theological justification? Talk about stretching a metaphor.......there is no rapture anywhere in the Bible. Therefore so called Christian fundamentalists have no basis for their beliefs.

True, given the fact there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, where religion and 'god' are creations of man, just as the bible was written by men, not a 'deity,' devoid of authority and documented facts.

The notion of 'rapture' just another Christian myth.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

...written by men, not a 'deity,' devoid of authority and documented facts.

 

[Penelope]

It was a war torn world then (and now), and the Son of Man I believe was referring to Titus, and he did destroy the temple.

 

[aris2chat]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

The word rapture is not in the bible

rushed, caught up, but not rapture

 

[irosie91]

AWWwwww shucks------leave it alone-----the RAPTURE thing is the best part
of Christianity-------better than alice in wonderland and the wizard of oz
COMBINED

 

[Liminal]

AWWwwww shucks------leave it alone-----the RAPTURE thing is the best part
of Christianity-------better than alice in wonderland and the wizard of oz
COMBINED

No doubt the primary sources for your extensive knowledge of religions.

 

[Missourian]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

The word rapture is not in the bible

rushed, caught up, but not rapture

The Greek word "harpazo"...to be caught up...translates in Latin to "raptus", which translates to English as Rapture.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

The word rapture is not in the bible

rushed, caught up, but not rapture

The Greek word "harpazo"...to be caught up...translates in Latin to "raptus", which translates to English as Rapture.

The Greek word, "Harpazo" translates to the Irish word, "Harpo", who does not appear in the Bible.

 

[Liminal]

The word rapture appears nowhere in the Bible. Yet so called fundamentalist Christians have somehow created a fanciful interpretation out of Thessalonians that is the foundation of their belief. Where is the theological justification? Talk about stretching a metaphor.......there is no rapture anywhere in the Bible. Therefore so called Christian fundamentalists have no basis for their beliefs.

True, given the fact there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, where religion and 'god' are creations of man, just as the bible was written by men, not a 'deity,' devoid of authority and documented facts.

The notion of 'rapture' just another Christian myth.

Not exactly a new bold groundbreaking position. Of course it's impossible to argue with the impeccable logic of atheists, as far as their argument goes anyway. On the other hand all their arguments end up as blind alleys based on superficial premise. No doubt you believe your thinking is based on rational conclusions of sound reasoning and indisputable logic. Given the fact that there about a million or so psychological studies that demonstrate how most human decision making is based primarily on emotional responses.......how do you know your own reasoning isn't simply a rationalization of your own emotions? I loved to watch how Christopher Hitchens would craft his arguments, flawless reasoning, compelling logic. The same goes for Richard Dawkins. But have you ever seen how either of these gentleman(scions of atheism) would respond when some part of their premise was questioned? They would almost invariably respond defensively with obvious anger and outrage; an emotional response. If atheists arguments are based on some pure form of deductive reasoning why does a challenge elicit an emotional response?

 

[Missourian]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

The word rapture is not in the bible

rushed, caught up, but not rapture

The Greek word "harpazo"...to be caught up...translates in Latin to "raptus", which translates to English as Rapture.

The Greek word, "Harpazo" translates to the Irish word, "Harpo", who does not appear in the Bible.

That is actually a very good video.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The word rapture appears nowhere in the Bible. Yet so called fundamentalist Christians have somehow created a fanciful interpretation out of Thessalonians that is the foundation of their belief. Where is the theological justification? Talk about stretching a metaphor.......there is no rapture anywhere in the Bible. Therefore so called Christian fundamentalists have no basis for their beliefs.

True, given the fact there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, where religion and 'god' are creations of man, just as the bible was written by men, not a 'deity,' devoid of authority and documented facts.

The notion of 'rapture' just another Christian myth.

Not exactly a new bold groundbreaking position. Of course it's impossible to argue with the impeccable logic of atheists, as far as their argument goes anyway. On the other hand all their arguments end up as blind alleys based on superficial premise. No doubt you believe your thinking is based on rational conclusions of sound reasoning and indisputable logic. Given the fact that there about a million or so psychological studies that demonstrate how most human decision making is based primarily on emotional responses.......how do you know your own reasoning isn't simply a rationalization of your own emotions? I loved to watch how Christopher Hitchens would craft his arguments, flawless reasoning, compelling logic. The same goes for Richard Dawkins. But have you ever seen how either of these gentleman(scions of atheism) would respond when some part of their premise was questioned? They would almost invariably respond defensively with obvious anger and outrage; an emotional response. If atheists arguments are based on some pure form of deductive reasoning why does a challenge elicit an emotional response?

There's nothing 'groundbreaking' about acknowledging facts and the truth.

The bible was written by men, not a 'deity,' and is devoid of documented facts and authority.

And there is no 'god' as perceived by theists – there is no omnipotent extraterrestrial entity that 'hears' prayers, 'intercedes' on the behalf of humans, and 'issues edicts' of religious doctrine and dogma all must obey, lest transgressors are subject to some sort of postmortem 'punishment.'

For some 'god' might exist as a metaphor – the collective goodness of man and the like; but there's no 'god' as perceived by theists.

The mistake theists make to incorrectly believe that their religion and 'god' are the 'status quo,' the consequence of their arrogance and pride, where those free from faith are the 'aberration,' when in fact the opposite is the case.

 

[Liminal]

The word rapture appears nowhere in the Bible. Yet so called fundamentalist Christians have somehow created a fanciful interpretation out of Thessalonians that is the foundation of their belief. Where is the theological justification? Talk about stretching a metaphor.......there is no rapture anywhere in the Bible. Therefore so called Christian fundamentalists have no basis for their beliefs.

True, given the fact there is no 'god' as perceived by theists, where religion and 'god' are creations of man, just as the bible was written by men, not a 'deity,' devoid of authority and documented facts.

The notion of 'rapture' just another Christian myth.

Not exactly a new bold groundbreaking position. Of course it's impossible to argue with the impeccable logic of atheists, as far as their argument goes anyway. On the other hand all their arguments end up as blind alleys based on superficial premise. No doubt you believe your thinking is based on rational conclusions of sound reasoning and indisputable logic. Given the fact that there about a million or so psychological studies that demonstrate how most human decision making is based primarily on emotional responses.......how do you know your own reasoning isn't simply a rationalization of your own emotions? I loved to watch how Christopher Hitchens would craft his arguments, flawless reasoning, compelling logic. The same goes for Richard Dawkins. But have you ever seen how either of these gentleman(scions of atheism) would respond when some part of their premise was questioned? They would almost invariably respond defensively with obvious anger and outrage; an emotional response. If atheists arguments are based on some pure form of deductive reasoning why does a challenge elicit an emotional response?

There's nothing 'groundbreaking' about acknowledging facts and the truth.

The bible was written by men, not a 'deity,' and is devoid of documented facts and authority.

And there is no 'god' as perceived by theists – there is no omnipotent extraterrestrial entity that 'hears' prayers, 'intercedes' on the behalf of humans, and 'issues edicts' of religious doctrine and dogma all must obey, lest transgressors are subject to some sort of postmortem 'punishment.'

For some 'god' might exist as a metaphor – the collective goodness of man and the like; but there's no 'god' as perceived by theists.

The mistake theists make to incorrectly believe that their religion and 'god' are the 'status quo,' the consequence of their arrogance and pride, where those free from faith are the 'aberration,' when in fact the opposite is the case.

Your thinking process is almost indistinguishable from that of Christian fundamentalists.

 

[HaShev]

It was a war torn world then (and now), and the Son of Man I believe was referring to Titus, and he did destroy the temple.

Sorry but you admit not knowing anything about Judaic traditions. Even Rabbis don't truly know the secret behind the term son of man, only it's general Meaning "reflection of".
1) son of man would know why the term is used.
2) differentiate from claiming son of God, which scrolls says is an arrogant claim, while the church did not understand reflection of=son of, they used literal precepts to go with mythological sons of gods.
3) being reflective and guided by future advanced mankind=reflective of man
=sons of men.
4)the holy city's name in it's original Canaanite transliteration has "Man" at the end, the end of names equate "son of".
Example: if your last name was Merit, your heritage is from Mer son of Italy.
If your last name was Braxport it would be Brax son of Portugal.

5) Jesus nor your popes know this=
epic fail

 

[the_human_being]

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The disciples seeing Jesus walk after He was crucified; and those who have actually been taken in the spirit to be shown the heavenly realm. The word term rapture is based on the belief of being "caught up" as these things are written about throughout the Bible.

There is absolutely no scripture in the entire Bible that states "To be absent from the body is to be with the Lord." You need to go back and read what that scripture actually says and refrain from adding to it. The Rapture Doctrine is a false doctrine.

 

[the_human_being]

Enoch and Elijah, Matthew 24:40, Luke 17:34.

The word rapture is not in the bible

rushed, caught up, but not rapture

The Greek word "harpazo"...to be caught up...translates in Latin to "raptus", which translates to English as Rapture.

The only problem here is that the "falling away" simply means "apostasy" and is correctly rendered as such by Strongs Concordance. Common sense should tell you that nothing falls up.