NFL kneelers

[Biff_Poindexter]

And it is still none of your business whether they kneel or not.

Freedom of Speech and Expression are in the Constitution. Kneeling during the national anthem isn't.

You claim something or another is 'none of our business' then go on to cite the 1st Amendment's Free Speech clause.

What kind of stupid fuck are you? You contradict yourself without skipping a beat.

You claim 1st Amendment protections for others but they don't apply to us?

Eat shit

Instead of blaming racism, try blaming the people responsible.

dimocraps.

You vote for them while they keep Blacks in virtual chains in the Inner Cities, producing Feral Males and preggo females with no skills, subject to a FAILED Education system, a Welfare System that promotes dependence and desperation that leads to Drug Abuse and Crime.

You want these problems to end? Vote dimocrap FILTH out of Office.

But you're too stupid to do that. You'd rather whine like a little girl and blame somebody else

So is your main issue about which political party is to blame??? because I could careless who you want to blame -- however, if you are trying to access blame, are you then conceding there are problems in the criminal justice system to be placing blame for?

I understand your thirst and desire to blame democrats for everything, I am more than happy to let you have that -- but in order to do so, you have to admit there is problem to be blamed for? so are you saying there is a problem in our criminal justice system?

 

[Redfish]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Ok, one example, but Jenkins destroyed all the good he did by kneeling at the first preseason game. Yes, the DOJ and FBI are corrupt, much of the corruption happened under Obama, you tell me, did he condone it or try to stop it?

Yes, no Trump has been shot unarmed------------yet.

This is why there is no reason in talking to a Trump supporter

I just showed you an example of a NFL player doing something beyond anthem protests, and you still find a way to say "yea, but..."

Then in the very same comment, despite a Trump official never being shot while unarmed, never being beaten into a confession while in custody -- you still claim that its the DOJ that is corrupt and how black NFL players should be quiet

I think they should protest if they feel motivated to do so. But not during a football game and to disgrace the national anthem, the flag, the military, and everyone who died protecting their right to protest.

These people died protecting the entire Constitution...EVERYTHING in it. And in the Constitution is the Right to Free Speech and Expression.

Now...are these players exercising their right to free speech and freedom of expression?

Yes or No?

NO, not while on the job. When on the job the employer tells you what is acceptable and unacceptable. Those guys are being PAID by the owners and the fans to play a game.

When you go to work are you allowed to stop working and protest?

That, my ignorant friend, is the point. They are employees, the fans pay to watch them play a game. Its neither the time or place to express whatever grievances they think they have.

 

[Redfish]

And it is still none of your business whether they kneel or not.

Freedom of Speech and Expression are in the Constitution. Kneeling during the national anthem isn't.

You claim something or another is 'none of our business' then go on to cite the 1st Amendment's Free Speech clause.

What kind of stupid fuck are you? You contradict yourself without skipping a beat.

You claim 1st Amendment protections for others but they don't apply to us?

Eat shit

Instead of blaming racism, try blaming the people responsible.

dimocraps.

You vote for them while they keep Blacks in virtual chains in the Inner Cities, producing Feral Males and preggo females with no skills, subject to a FAILED Education system, a Welfare System that promotes dependence and desperation that leads to Drug Abuse and Crime.

You want these problems to end? Vote dimocrap FILTH out of Office.

But you're too stupid to do that. You'd rather whine like a little girl and blame somebody else

So is your main issue about which political party is to blame??? because I could careless who you want to blame -- however, if you are trying to access blame, are you then conceding there are problems in the criminal justice system to be placing blame for?

I understand your thirst and desire to blame democrats for everything, I am more than happy to let you have that -- but in order to do so, you have to admit there is problem to be blamed for? so are you saying there is a problem in our criminal justice system?

the criminal justice is a symptom of a much more pervasive problem. The destruction of the black family unit by generations of liberal welfare policies that were designed to buy votes, not to help black or poor people.

 

[Redfish]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

 

[Siete]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

neither did the players ... RW idiots are clueless

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Ok, one example, but Jenkins destroyed all the good he did by kneeling at the first preseason game. Yes, the DOJ and FBI are corrupt, much of the corruption happened under Obama, you tell me, did he condone it or try to stop it?

Yes, no Trump has been shot unarmed------------yet.

This is why there is no reason in talking to a Trump supporter

I just showed you an example of a NFL player doing something beyond anthem protests, and you still find a way to say "yea, but..."

Then in the very same comment, despite a Trump official never being shot while unarmed, never being beaten into a confession while in custody -- you still claim that its the DOJ that is corrupt and how black NFL players should be quiet

I think they should protest if they feel motivated to do so. But not during a football game and to disgrace the national anthem, the flag, the military, and everyone who died protecting their right to protest.

These people died protecting the entire Constitution...EVERYTHING in it. And in the Constitution is the Right to Free Speech and Expression.

Now...are these players exercising their right to free speech and freedom of expression?

Yes or No?

NO, not while on the job. When on the job the employer tells you what is acceptable and unacceptable. Those guys are being PAID by the owners and the fans to play a game.

When you go to work are you allowed to stop working and protest?

That, my ignorant friend, is the point. They are employees, the fans pay to watch them play a game. Its neither the time or place to express whatever grievances they think they have.

Aside from the fact that racism is so embedded in America that whenever someone protests racism, idiots like yourself think they are protesting America, I will leave that aside..

First off, I would not work for a company who feels me standing for a daily pledge is pertinent to me doing my job....second, if I did, and decided still protest, I will accept the punishment, which in the case of the NFL is a fine.

Furthermore, there is never a time to protest injustice in the mind of those who don't feel there is any injustice to protest -- this desire by conservatives to feel they can decide how someone is supposed to exercise their constitutional rights is not new...their desire to try to shield their indifference to injustice by hiding behind the flag and the troops is nothing new too


Back after WW2 --- black troops coming home from liberating Europeans overseas were still treated as second class here -- and if they protested that, do you think them wearing a solider's uniform garnered them any respect? No, in fact, black soldiers were often beaten for wearing that uniform -- so no, we don't need those who argue that there is no injustice at all to tell us how we should protest if we choose to.

When all of those "so-called" tea partiers were putting on their funny little hats because Obama became president, I didn't mind -- I just thought it was silly to be protesting "socialism" by demanding Obama to keep his hands off their Medicare

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

As much as I have been making a fool out of you on this post, why do you keep trying to test me?

Yes, I know more about MLK than you do, or else you wouldn't have said that dumb shit you just said...guess you didn't know this MLK quote:

"As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask — and rightly so — what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government.”

 

[Billo_Really]

Did he as the President forbid protesting? Did he as the President introduce legislation for an amendment repeal? Just what did this government official do that restricted free speech I ask you?

He said players kneeling before football games should be fired. I think Presidents kneeling before Putin should be fired.

 

[Redfish]

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

neither did the players ... RW idiots are clueless

bullshit, by kneeling at the anthem they are doing exactly that, and they are doing it or purpose because they hate the country that made it possible for them to make millions playing a GAME.

 

[Redfish]

Did he as the President forbid protesting? Did he as the President introduce legislation for an amendment repeal? Just what did this government official do that restricted free speech I ask you?

He said players kneeling before football games should be fired. I think Presidents kneeling before Putin should be fired.

that's his opinion, which is shared by a majority of football fans. But its up to owners, its their business that is being destroyed by these few morons.

 

[Redfish]

Actually, many NFL players put action behind their protest during the off season -- now you may not have heard about it because they didn't do it in a way to draw attention --also, because the liberal media didn't want to report on it, because of how liberal the media is and all..

But here is one example of why your post is a bunch of BS:

"After the anthem, and off the field, Jenkins’ push for social justice and racial equality continued. Along with four other NFL players, he traveled to Washington, D.C., for a meeting with lawmakers to discuss criminal justice reform."

When Malcolm Jenkins went on a ride along with Philly police he said: "There was a lot I wanted to accomplish by doing it. First, I wanted to kind of learn for myself before I went on advocating and making a lot of noise. I wanted to learn for myself, kind of both ends of the spectrum. What is it that officers are going through? What are their challenges? Their perspective on the issue. Or even if they believed that there was an issue. And then also being able to hear the voices of members of the community that have to deal with police interactions all the time. The third thing I wanted to do is document the conversations that came out of it, between myself and law enforcement."

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins talks about his ride-along with Philly Police Department

So no, NFL players are not just protesting during the anthem and nothing else off the field, you wouldn't know or care because you don't see a problem to begin with --- but you same people are willing to declare the entire FBI and DOJ as being corrupt and I don't recall one single Trump official being shot unarmed.

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

As much as I have been making a fool out of you on this post, why do you keep trying to test me?

Yes, I know more about MLK than you do, or else you wouldn't have said that dumb shit you just said...guess you didn't know this MLK quote:

"As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask — and rightly so — what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government.”

again, great words. Kennedy and Johnson's viet nam war cost us 58,000 American lives for absolutely nothing. That violence was a waste of lives and money. Just as the violence being perpetrated by BLM and Antifa today is a waste of lives and money.

the left is promoting violence because they cannot compete in the arena of civil debate and ideas. That is whats really happening here, dude.

 

[Redfish]

Ok, one example, but Jenkins destroyed all the good he did by kneeling at the first preseason game. Yes, the DOJ and FBI are corrupt, much of the corruption happened under Obama, you tell me, did he condone it or try to stop it?

Yes, no Trump has been shot unarmed------------yet.

This is why there is no reason in talking to a Trump supporter

I just showed you an example of a NFL player doing something beyond anthem protests, and you still find a way to say "yea, but..."

Then in the very same comment, despite a Trump official never being shot while unarmed, never being beaten into a confession while in custody -- you still claim that its the DOJ that is corrupt and how black NFL players should be quiet

I think they should protest if they feel motivated to do so. But not during a football game and to disgrace the national anthem, the flag, the military, and everyone who died protecting their right to protest.

These people died protecting the entire Constitution...EVERYTHING in it. And in the Constitution is the Right to Free Speech and Expression.

Now...are these players exercising their right to free speech and freedom of expression?

Yes or No?

NO, not while on the job. When on the job the employer tells you what is acceptable and unacceptable. Those guys are being PAID by the owners and the fans to play a game.

When you go to work are you allowed to stop working and protest?

That, my ignorant friend, is the point. They are employees, the fans pay to watch them play a game. Its neither the time or place to express whatever grievances they think they have.

Aside from the fact that racism is so embedded in America that whenever someone protests racism, idiots like yourself think they are protesting America, I will leave that aside..

First off, I would not work for a company who feels me standing for a daily pledge is pertinent to me doing my job....second, if I did, and decided still protest, I will accept the punishment, which in the case of the NFL is a fine.

Furthermore, there is never a time to protest injustice in the mind of those who don't feel there is any injustice to protest -- this desire by conservatives to feel they can decide how someone is supposed to exercise their constitutional rights is not new...their desire to try to shield their indifference to injustice by hiding behind the flag and the troops is nothing new too


Back after WW2 --- black troops coming home from liberating Europeans overseas were still treated as second class here -- and if they protested that, do you think them wearing a solider's uniform garnered them any respect? No, in fact, black soldiers were often beaten for wearing that uniform -- so no, we don't need those who argue that there is no injustice at all to tell us how we should protest if we choose to.

When all of those "so-called" tea partiers were putting on their funny little hats because Obama became president, I didn't mind -- I just thought it was silly to be protesting "socialism" by demanding Obama to keep his hands off their Medicare

racism is not cured by promoting more racism. Calling for the murder of whites and police (both black and white) is not going to solve anything. Listen to people like Ben Carson and Jim Brown, and Dak Prescott. They understand, you don't.

 

[Polishprince]

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

neither did the players ... RW idiots are clueless

bullshit, by kneeling at the anthem they are doing exactly that, and they are doing it or purpose because they hate the country that made it possible for them to make millions playing a GAME.

If the NFL wants to have its players kneel at the national anthem, that is their right. But I've heard that some players don't like the fans hollering at them and protesting against their disrespect at the games.

Everyone has a right to free speech. And if the fans start throwing garbage at players that are disrespecting their country, that should be fine too.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Oooh, a handful of them. You’re right it sure didn’t make the news.

What exactly is social justice? Can you explain that one?

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

As much as I have been making a fool out of you on this post, why do you keep trying to test me?

Yes, I know more about MLK than you do, or else you wouldn't have said that dumb shit you just said...guess you didn't know this MLK quote:

"As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask — and rightly so — what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government.”

again, great words. Kennedy and Johnson's viet nam war cost us 58,000 American lives for absolutely nothing. That violence was a waste of lives and money. Just as the violence being perpetrated by BLM and Antifa today is a waste of lives and money.

the left is promoting violence because they cannot compete in the arena of civil debate and ideas. That is whats really happening here, dude.

No, the left is not promoting violence -- just because Antifa is using violence against violence doesn't mean the "left" promotes violence anymore than Neo Nazis/KKK using violence means the "right" promotes violence -- Even the numerous times Trump himself promoted violence, it still doesn't mean that the "right" supported violence..

but you just tried to claim that MLK would never disrespect the country or the military -- and he didn't -- but that quote I just gave you was exactly what people like you claimed MLK did back then -- funny how after the sacrifices have been made and blood has been shed by King and those like him, funny how now people can go back and claim King was some docile figure who never upset the white power structure

If any NFL player said the same quote King said, but switched out Vietnam with Iraq, you would claiming they are disrespecting the troops

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

neither did the players ... RW idiots are clueless

bullshit, by kneeling at the anthem they are doing exactly that, and they are doing it or purpose because they hate the country that made it possible for them to make millions playing a GAME.

If the NFL wants to have its players kneel at the national anthem, that is their right. But I've heard that some players don't like the fans hollering at them and protesting against their disrespect at the games.

Everyone has a right to free speech. And if the fans start throwing garbage at players that are disrespecting their country, that should be fine too.

Your constitutional rights end at my nose -- so no, throwing objects at someone is not protected by free speech

 

[Redfish]

I will let Dr. King help you to understand what it means "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."

In other words, just because you are comfortable personally, the policies and current conditions that are challenges and injustices to others is still something you should GIVE A FUCK about -- if not actively, at least by simply acknowledging that those people have a right to protest those policies and/or conditions and take political action if need be

Doing so makes them no less of an American than you are -- every emancipation effort by every historically oppressed group of people have always been met with fierce opposition by those who were "comfortable"

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

As much as I have been making a fool out of you on this post, why do you keep trying to test me?

Yes, I know more about MLK than you do, or else you wouldn't have said that dumb shit you just said...guess you didn't know this MLK quote:

"As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask — and rightly so — what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government.”

again, great words. Kennedy and Johnson's viet nam war cost us 58,000 American lives for absolutely nothing. That violence was a waste of lives and money. Just as the violence being perpetrated by BLM and Antifa today is a waste of lives and money.

the left is promoting violence because they cannot compete in the arena of civil debate and ideas. That is whats really happening here, dude.

No, the left is not promoting violence -- just because Antifa is using violence against violence doesn't mean the "left" promotes violence anymore than Neo Nazis/KKK using violence means the "right" promotes violence -- Even the numerous times Trump himself promoted violence, it still doesn't mean that the "right" supported violence..

but you just tried to claim that MLK would never disrespect the country or the military -- and he didn't -- but that quote I just gave you was exactly what people like you claimed MLK did back then -- funny how after the sacrifices have been made and blood has been shed by King and those like him, funny how now people can go back and claim King was some docile figure who never upset the white power structure

If any NFL player said the same quote King said, but switched out Vietnam with Iraq, you would claiming they are disrespecting the troops

 

[Redfish]

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

As much as I have been making a fool out of you on this post, why do you keep trying to test me?

Yes, I know more about MLK than you do, or else you wouldn't have said that dumb shit you just said...guess you didn't know this MLK quote:

"As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask — and rightly so — what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government.”

again, great words. Kennedy and Johnson's viet nam war cost us 58,000 American lives for absolutely nothing. That violence was a waste of lives and money. Just as the violence being perpetrated by BLM and Antifa today is a waste of lives and money.

the left is promoting violence because they cannot compete in the arena of civil debate and ideas. That is whats really happening here, dude.

No, the left is not promoting violence -- just because Antifa is using violence against violence doesn't mean the "left" promotes violence anymore than Neo Nazis/KKK using violence means the "right" promotes violence -- Even the numerous times Trump himself promoted violence, it still doesn't mean that the "right" supported violence..

but you just tried to claim that MLK would never disrespect the country or the military -- and he didn't -- but that quote I just gave you was exactly what people like you claimed MLK did back then -- funny how after the sacrifices have been made and blood has been shed by King and those like him, funny how now people can go back and claim King was some docile figure who never upset the white power structure

If any NFL player said the same quote King said, but switched out Vietnam with Iraq, you would claiming they are disrespecting the troops

Maxine Waters has called for violence several times, did you miss that? I don't care what these guys do on their own time, but when I am paying their salaries by buying a ticket, I expect them to perform, not protest. Sports is supposed to be an escape from the rigors of everyday life, is sucks when it becomes political.

 

[Redfish]

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."


Very powerful words. Thank you.

Yes, powerful words. MLK would never have condoned disrespecting the anthem, the flag, or the country. You don't know much about MLK do you?

neither did the players ... RW idiots are clueless

bullshit, by kneeling at the anthem they are doing exactly that, and they are doing it or purpose because they hate the country that made it possible for them to make millions playing a GAME.

If the NFL wants to have its players kneel at the national anthem, that is their right. But I've heard that some players don't like the fans hollering at them and protesting against their disrespect at the games.

Everyone has a right to free speech. And if the fans start throwing garbage at players that are disrespecting their country, that should be fine too.

Your constitutional rights end at my nose -- so no, throwing objects at someone is not protected by free speech

How about preventing conservative speakers from speaking at colleges? Is that allowing free speech? you cant have it both ways, dude.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Kinda crazy how we spent an entire season off when not one NFL player had a protest or an event. Now that the season is starting they get involved. If you can’t actually spend your own off time protesting it’s not even serious to them. It’s a worthless protest. You can’t be so emotionally investing in something you won’t do on your own time.

Still against the 1st amendment I see, like 45.

How is that being against the first amendment? You do realize the amendment was created so that government could not stop us from free speech, not the NFL, don't you?

The so-called president isn't part of the government? Oh....if only that were true in this case.......

So when has the president ordered the FBI to arrest the kneelers?

Those lame arguments you make would not prove you are a unparalleled dumbass if you didn't post stupid shit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The president is undergoing a Special Prosecutor's investigation, his former campaign chairman is on trial which could result in him dying in prison, his former deputy has plead guilty to crimes and has flipped against him, a New York Republican congressman has been indicted for stock fraud, our electoral system is still under attack by Russians, the family separation crisis is no where near resolved, and what does Trump and the Trumpians want to focus on?

Bright shiny things.

Those items you mentioned are the bright shiny things that libtards focus on. What libs don't realize is that those bright shiny things are really just lures used by other libtards on fishing expeditions.