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I have posted this before but I feel it applies to you Joe
I must ask what is more dangerous the perceived dangers from the world around us or the dangers from within America? I am not naive to think there isn't danger out in the world around us but I am smart enough to realize we need to fix our internal problems before we can defend against those outward dangers. And the NDAA is proof enough we have a problem that's at least in my opinion.
NO, NDAA is a threat to people who think that black helicopters are flying around their house.
I think we do have big problems, but they aren't the things that Ron Paul is worried about. I find some of the things he says to make sense. He's the only one who doesn't toe the Zionist party line that we have a vital interest in who controls Jerusalem. But mostly, the guy is kind of a crank. But his craziness on abolishing the Federal Reserve is just crazy talk.
Fact is, FDR was able to lock up 110,000 Americans without charge without an NDAA or anything like it. If we are scared enough, we'll go along with anything. I'd be more worried about where the herd is running than whatever the latest cattle prod is.
Sec. 1021 of the bill obama signed into law disagree's with you. Who told you that the NDAA will not affect you? Your refusal to acknowledge that will not change the facts that sec 1021 does pertain too any person U.S. Citizen or not. We need to fix our internal problem before we are concerned about some perceived problem in the world. If we don't fix the internal problem first the danger from the outside world really isn't going to matter.
Sec. 1021 of the bill obama signed into law disagree's with you. Who told you that the NDAA will not affect you? Your refusal to acknowledge that will not change the facts that sec 1021 does pertain too any person U.S. Citizen or not. We need to fix our internal problem before we are concerned about some perceived problem in the world. If we don't fix the internal problem first the danger from the outside world really isn't going to matter.
Okay, seriously, if we are ever at a point where let's say President Romney locks me up becuase I made fun of his cult, and people stand for that, then the laws won't matter a whit.
I don't worry the government is going to arrest me personally on some trumped up charge.
I do kind of worry that a terrorist might do some real damage that will send our economy into a tailspin again, even if it is improbably I'd be caught up in it personally.
Sec. 1021 of the bill obama signed into law disagree's with you. Who told you that the NDAA will not affect you? Your refusal to acknowledge that will not change the facts that sec 1021 does pertain too any person U.S. Citizen or not. We need to fix our internal problem before we are concerned about some perceived problem in the world. If we don't fix the internal problem first the danger from the outside world really isn't going to matter.
Okay, seriously, if we are ever at a point where let's say President Romney locks me up becuase I made fun of his cult, and people stand for that, then the laws won't matter a whit.
I don't worry the government is going to arrest me personally on some trumped up charge.
I do kind of worry that a terrorist might do some real damage that will send our economy into a tailspin again, even if it is improbably I'd be caught up in it personally.
It's to late to worry about it after the fact. That's why we have a Constitutional process and this current government has thumbed their noises at it. Yet you want to keep adding to it, by voting for the person they want you to vote for.
First they came for the hackers.Okay, seriously, if we are ever at a point where let's say President Romney locks me up becuase I made fun of his cult, and people stand for that, then the laws won't matter a whit.
I don't worry the government is going to arrest me personally on some trumped up charge.
I do kind of worry that a terrorist might do some real damage that will send our economy into a tailspin again, even if it is improbably I'd be caught up in it personally.
It's to late to worry about it after the fact. That's why we have a Constitutional process and this current government has thumbed their noises at it. Yet you want to keep adding to it, by voting for the person they want you to vote for.
LIke I said, I probably won't vote for Romney or Obama. I live in IL, and it isn't like this state is even going to be in play next time.
But this isn't an important issue to me. It really isn't. Has no effect on my life, one way or the other.
Guy, if they could get rid of the Spammers, and assholes who write viruses, I'd be all for it. Lock them all up and throw away the key.
Please, the government can't get the internet under control if it wanted to. China is trying just that and failing miserably.
Guy, if they could get rid of the Spammers, and assholes who write viruses, I'd be all for it. Lock them all up and throw away the key.
Please, the government can't get the internet under control if it wanted to. China is trying just that and failing miserably.
Sure until they decide you are a problem then you will be the problem to get rid of. Until then sleep soundly and feel safe. It's just your freedom they want, and it's not much to lose.
Guy, if they could get rid of the Spammers, and assholes who write viruses, I'd be all for it. Lock them all up and throw away the key.
Please, the government can't get the internet under control if it wanted to. China is trying just that and failing miserably.
Sure until they decide you are a problem then you will be the problem to get rid of. Until then sleep soundly and feel safe. It's just your freedom they want, and it's not much to lose.
YOu know what, if you have that level of paranoia about the government, I'm not sure if there is much that can be done for you.
Okay. Just remember, you need to use real tin foil for that tin-foil hat. I mean, some people use aluminum foil and think that does the job, but it really doesn't...
First they came for the hackers.It's to late to worry about it after the fact. That's why we have a Constitutional process and this current government has thumbed their noises at it. Yet you want to keep adding to it, by voting for the person they want you to vote for.
LIke I said, I probably won't vote for Romney or Obama. I live in IL, and it isn't like this state is even going to be in play next time.
But this isn't an important issue to me. It really isn't. Has no effect on my life, one way or the other.
But I never did anything illegal with my computer,
so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the pornographers.
But I thought there was too much smut on the Internet anyway,
so I didn't speak up
Then they came for the anonymous remailers.
But a lot of nasty stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi,
so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the encryption users.
But I could never figure out how to work PGP anyway,
so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me.
And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
First they came for the hackers.LIke I said, I probably won't vote for Romney or Obama. I live in IL, and it isn't like this state is even going to be in play next time.
But this isn't an important issue to me. It really isn't. Has no effect on my life, one way or the other.
But I never did anything illegal with my computer,
so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the pornographers.
But I thought there was too much smut on the Internet anyway,
so I didn't speak up
Then they came for the anonymous remailers.
But a lot of nasty stuff gets sent from anon.penet.fi,
so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the encryption users.
But I could never figure out how to work PGP anyway,
so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me.
And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
Sigh. You are not a Jew, you are not a classical liberal, you are not a threat to the powers that be, but you would like to be the power so you could threaten all you dislike. Sigh.
