New York Hopitals not allowed to ask status

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    This is the type of thing that really irratates me.. How can the New York government tell a hospital employee that they cant tell INS that someone is an illegal alien. I mean after all that is a crime and if they dont tell aren't they an accessory to that crime.

    Hospitals are mandated by the federal government to keep patient confidentiality on all medical procedures (HIPPA), but what New York is asking these employees to do is break the law by aiding and abetting..

    Most of these people of illegal status aren't even going to attempt to pay anyway. Maybe when their health system starts to go broke these morons will wake-up and realize how wrong they are.

    Heres the Link
    http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_151091319.html

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    It's not a "crime" to treat an illegal immigrant, only to hire one as far as I know. If people think they're going to be deported if they seek medical treatment, they won't seek treatment. A hospital's first obligation is to heal. They aren't the INS or their agents.
     
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    Yet Hospitals must repot gun-shot victims...child victims...and other instances where they suspect a crime. Why not illegals?
     
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    Because it's not the gun shot victim or child victim who will avoid treatment because of someone else's crime being reported. There is no obligation on the part of the hospital to the person committing the illegal act in those cases.
     
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    I didnt say it was a crime to treat them, it is however a crime to withold information about a crime, and the last time I checked entering the US illegaly is a crime thus the term "illegal".

    If people know that they will be denied jobs, school, benefits and if they get sick and go to the hospital they will be reported and deported maybe they'll stop coming here ILLEGALLY.

    IF a person fears deportation because they seek treatment maybe they should have thought about that before sneaking in, in the first place.

    If someone comes into the hosp. and you find out they just killed someone is that something to keep to yourself?? Of course not, we shouldn't differintiate one crime form another. Why does the government of New York want someone to do that???

    I have worked in Hospitals all my adult life so I think I'm pretty sure what a Hospitals first responsibility is and your right it is to treat the patient however we are also to report anyone involved in a crime to the proper authorities. This includes child abuse, murder, rape, assault, neglect, extortion, and the list goes on so why the exception for this one crime???????
     
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    What about the obligation to pay for services(hospitals dont run for free). I can personaly attest to the fact that most illegals do not pay. For everyone that doesn't pay you and I have to pay that much more for our care. Where do you want to draw the line... When you cant afford to go yourself!!!!
     
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    I believe that is UNTrue. I believe Hospitals have to report ANY patient who either seems the victim of a crime, or one who committed a crime in conjunction with their injury.


    Just as a for instance:

    Should I walk into a hospital with DYE, from an exploded bank Dye-pack, all over my hands - seeking treatment or help - I'm VERY sure the hospital would have to call the police.
     
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    I would never allow someone to die on my doorstep because of a lack of money. Never. And we spend money on all kinds of things that turn my stomach. Giving someone sick medical care isn't one of them.

    Anyway, time to go home and hang with my son.

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    You really do have a problem with reading comprehension dont you! A hospital will never turn a patient away based on their ability to pay or not. However after treatment if someone is involved with a crime it must be reported and you still havent commented on where to draw the line on which crimes should and which shouldn't be reported.
     
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    If the situation was life-threatening, I doubt the risk of getting reported would deter them from seeking treatment. After all, would one rather be deported or dead?

    For lesser injuries/ilnesses, it might cause them to avoid treatment. But, then that is just one of the "cons" of purposely breaking the law.
     

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