New Anti Obama Ad: Heroes don't spike the football

[Vidi]

heroes dont spike the football.

absolutely true.

But politicians do take credit for the decisions they make that worked out. They should also take the blame when it doesnt work out.

This is entire discussion is a swift boat issue.

 

[Vast LWC]

All we have to do is play back Obama's own words.


He is toast.

Sweet.

If we play back the footage of Republicans "Spiking the Football" for the War on Terror, we'd have to make a 3 part mini-seires, 2 hours an episode.

Also, does that ad contain the video where Mitt Romney says he wouldn't make raids into Pakistan without permission?

Cause that would definitely make it a good watch.

 

[Peach]

Obama claims rights not only on going after bin Laden, but having caused it to happen. The Seals 'did it' and the intel was being gathered since Carter.

Carter? Okay, let's give President Carter credit.

Except, al Qaeda did not begin until GHWB, after Reagan supported and armed the mujahideen......................

a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden sometime between August 1988[15] and late 1989.[16]

 

[tinydancer]

Obama said himself that he wouldn't spike the football over Bin Laden's death. He also tore into Hillary Clinton for using the WOT as part of her campaign.

It's hypocrisy. That's all. Plain and simple.

 

[Stephanie]

Obama said himself that he wouldn't spike the football over Bin Laden's death. He also tore into Hillary Clinton for using the WOT as part of her campaign.

It's hypocrisy. That's all. Plain and simple.

that and the man has nothing else to run on...I guess their phony war on women was fizzling out.

 

[tinydancer]

Obama claims rights not only on going after bin Laden, but having caused it to happen. The Seals 'did it' and the intel was being gathered since Carter.

Carter? Okay, let's give President Carter credit.

Except, al Qaeda did not begin until GHWB, after Reagan supported and armed the mujahideen......................

a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden sometime between August 1988[15] and late 1989.[16]

Yeah Osama and the brigades were ungrateful sons of bitches don't you think? We helped them get rid of the Soviets then asswipe Bin Laden wants to kill those that assisted them in getting their freedom.

Old Osama decides to go koo koo bye bye looking for more jihads.

ETA: Never forget that there's old Jimmah "the bunny killer" Carter who helped overthrow the Shah and look where that got him and the rest of America with Iran.

History seems to be continually repeating itself, n'est ce pas?

 

[Vidi]

All we have to do is play back Obama's own words.


He is toast.

Seriously. Please do.

I have yet to see him either say he wont "spike the football" or him actually "spiking the football" LOTS of articles about both, but not actual video. If its out there please post it.

This is not a challenge like " He never said it prove it!" Its a request, so I can see for myself.

 

[tinydancer]

All we have to do is play back Obama's own words.


He is toast.

Seriously. Please do.

I have yet to see him either say he wont "spike the football" or him actually "spiking the football" LOTS of articles about both, but not actual video. If its out there please post it.

This is not a challenge like " He never said it prove it!" Its a request, so I can see for myself.

Here you go. It was in a CBS interview. 60 minutes with Steve Kroft.

In explaining his choice not to release the photo, Mr. Obama said that "we don't need to spike the football." He said that "given the graphic nature of these photos it would create a national security risk."

And here's your link.

Obama: I won't release bin Laden death photos - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

 

[rightwinger]

On this one year anniversary of the killing of that son of a bitch bin Laden, I'd like to congratulate our President and all involved

Mission Accomplished

 

[Stephanie]

On this one year anniversary of the killing of that son of a bitch bin Laden, I'd like to congratulate our President and all involved

Mission Accomplished

good, now you all are done right?

 

[Peach]

Carter? Okay, let's give President Carter credit.

Except, al Qaeda did not begin until GHWB, after Reagan supported and armed the mujahideen......................

a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden sometime between August 1988[15] and late 1989.[16]

Yeah Osama and the brigades were ungrateful sons of bitches don't you think? We helped them get rid of the Soviets then asswipe Bin Laden wants to kill those that assisted them in getting their freedom.

Old Osama decides to go koo koo bye bye looking for more jihads.

ETA: Never forget that there's old Jimmah "the bunny killer" Carter who helped overthrow the Shah and look where that got him and the rest of America with Iran.

History seems to be continually repeating itself, n'est ce pas?

CARTER helped overthrow the Shah? You are joking, I hope:

Despite decades of pervasive surveillance by SAVAK, working closely with CIA, the extent of public opposition to the Shah, and his sudden departure, came as a considerable surprise to the US intelligence community and national leadership. As late as 28 September 1978 the US Defense Intelligence Agency reported that the Shah "is expected to remain actively in power over the next ten years."[37]

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Typical pub cherry picking. I posted TRUE footage but of course, the willingly ignorant rw's poo-poo'd it. LOL

Fact is, it was bush who stuffed a football down his codpiece and pretended "mission accomplished". Another FACT is that Obama did not "spike" any football and that's a stupid image to conjure up to describe the wantiin murder of more than 3000 of our people.

You anti-American idiots should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Stephanie]

Typical pub cherry picking. I posted TRUE footage but of course, the willingly ignorant rw's poo-poo'd it. LOL

Fact is, it was bush who stuffed a football down his codpiece and pretended "mission accomplished". Another FACT is that Obama did not "spike" any football and that's a stupid image to conjure up to describe the wantiin murder of more than 3000 of our people.

You anti-American idiots should be ashamed of yourself.

this thread isn't about, Booooooooooooooooosh

 

[tinydancer]

Typical pub cherry picking. I posted TRUE footage but of course, the willingly ignorant rw's poo-poo'd it. LOL

Fact is, it was bush who stuffed a football down his codpiece and pretended "mission accomplished". Another FACT is that Obama did not "spike" any football and that's a stupid image to conjure up to describe the wantiin murder of more than 3000 of our people.

You anti-American idiots should be ashamed of yourself.

Well the thread isn't about Bush, but if we want to make it about soldiers deaths then you can eat the figure of over 1200 US servicemen dead in Afghanistan on Obama's watch.

69% of all the US deaths in Afghanistan have occured since Obama was sworn it.

Yeah, the murder of over 1200 of "our people".

 

[tinydancer]

Except, al Qaeda did not begin until GHWB, after Reagan supported and armed the mujahideen......................

a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden sometime between August 1988[15] and late 1989.[16]

Yeah Osama and the brigades were ungrateful sons of bitches don't you think? We helped them get rid of the Soviets then asswipe Bin Laden wants to kill those that assisted them in getting their freedom.

Old Osama decides to go koo koo bye bye looking for more jihads.

ETA: Never forget that there's old Jimmah "the bunny killer" Carter who helped overthrow the Shah and look where that got him and the rest of America with Iran.

History seems to be continually repeating itself, n'est ce pas?

CARTER helped overthrow the Shah? You are joking, I hope:

Despite decades of pervasive surveillance by SAVAK, working closely with CIA, the extent of public opposition to the Shah, and his sudden departure, came as a considerable surprise to the US intelligence community and national leadership. As late as 28 September 1978 the US Defense Intelligence Agency reported that the Shah "is expected to remain actively in power over the next ten years."[37]

" The election of Mr. Carter as president of the United States in 1976, with his vocal emphasis on the importance of human rights in international affairs, was a turning point in US-Iran relations.

The Shah of Iran was accused of torturing over 3000 prisoners. Under the banner of promoting human rights, Carter made excessive demands of the Shah, threatening to withhold military and social aid.

Carter pressured the Shah to release "political prisoners", whose ranks included radical fundamentalists, communists and terrorists. Many of these individuals are now among the opponents we face in our "war on terrorism".

The Carter Administration insisted that the Shah disband military tribunals, demanding they be replaced by civil courts. The effect was to allow trials to serve as platforms for anti-government propaganda.

Carter pressured Iran to permit "free assembly", which encouraged and fostered fundamentalist anti-government rallies. The British government and its MI6 intelligence agency also heightened the Shah's precariousness.

The government-controlled BBC presented Iranians with a dossier of twenty hour newscasts detailing the location of all anti-Shah demonstrations and consistent interviews with the exiled outcast Ayatollah Khomeini, making a religious scholar few Iranians knew about into an overnight sensation.

When the Shah was unable to meet the Carter Administration and British demands, the Carter Administration reportedly ordered the Central Intelligence Agency to stop $4 million per year in funding to religious Mullahs who then became outspoken and vehement opponents of the Shah.

Unfortunately, the Shah's efforts to defuse the volatile situation in Iran failed, despite the grant even of free and democratic elections. Confronted with lack of US support and unleashed Mullah fury, the Shah of Iran fled the country.

Thank you Jimmah " the bunny killer" Carter! You gave us today's Iran. I hope you rot in hell.

I lived those days. I remember Carter's years very well, including A days and B days. Including nail biting hostage days. It was a nightmare.

I digress. Here's the link:

Archived-Articles: Jimmy Carter's Human Rights Disaster in Iran

 

[Annie]

Obama claims rights not only on going after bin Laden, but having caused it to happen. The Seals 'did it' and the intel was being gathered since Carter.

Carter? Okay, let's give President Carter credit.

Except, al Qaeda did not begin until GHWB, after Reagan supported and armed the mujahideen......................

a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden sometime between August 1988[15] and late 1989.[16]

Really? The mujaheddin was in place under Carter. As for al Queda:

Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

* 1 Early 1990s
o 1.1 February 1993 World Trade Center
o 1.2 1994 Bojinka, Philippine Airlines Flight 434
* 2 1998 U.S.-embassy bombings
* 3 2000 USS Cole bombing
* 4 September 11, 2001, attacks
* 5 October 2002 Bali bombings
* 6 November 2003 Istanbul attacks
* 7 February 2004 SuperFerry 14 bombing
* 8 March 11, 2004 Madrid train bombings
* 9 May 2004 Khobar massacre
* 10 July 7, 2005 London transport bombings
* 11 July 23, 2005 Sharm el-Sheikh attacks
* 12 November 9, 2005 Amman hotel bombing
* 13 April 2007 Algiers bombings
* 14 February 2008 Kandahar bombing
* 15 June 2, 2008 Danish-embassy bombing
* 16 June 2009 Little Rock recruiting office shooting
* 17 December 2009 Northwest Airlines Flight 253
* 18 Dec 30, 2009
* 19 October 2010 cargo plane bomb plot
* 20 Iraq attacks
o 20.1 August 2003 Imam Ali Mosque bombing
o 20.2 February 2004 Irbil bombings
o 20.3 March 2004 Iraq Ashura bombings
o 20.4 April 2004 Basra bombings
o 20.5 July 2005 Musayyib bombing
o 20.6 September 2005 Baghdad bombings
o 20.7 November 2005 Khanaqin bombings
o 20.8 April 2006 Buratha Mosque bombing
o 20.9 November 2006 Sadr City, Iraq bombings
o 20.10 February 2007 Baghdad market bombing
o 20.11 March 2007 Tal Afar bombings
o 20.12 April 2007 Baghdad Iraq bombings
o 20.13 August 14, 2007 Yazidi community Iraq bombing
o 20.14 August 2009 Baghdad bombings
o 20.15 October 2009 Baghdad bombings
o 20.16 April 2010 Baghdad bombings
o 20.17 May 2010 Iraq attacks
o 20.18 November 2010
o 20.19 January 2011 Iraq suicide attacks
* 21 Notes
* 22 References
* 23 External links

 

[Vidi]

All we have to do is play back Obama's own words.


He is toast.

Seriously. Please do.

I have yet to see him either say he wont "spike the football" or him actually "spiking the football" LOTS of articles about both, but not actual video. If its out there please post it.

This is not a challenge like " He never said it prove it!" Its a request, so I can see for myself.

Here you go. It was in a CBS interview. 60 minutes with Steve Kroft.

In explaining his choice not to release the photo, Mr. Obama said that "we don't need to spike the football." He said that "given the graphic nature of these photos it would create a national security risk."

And here's your link.

Obama: I won't release bin Laden death photos - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

and were those photos released?

again not a challenge but a request

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Lakhota

Carter? Okay, let's give President Carter credit.

Yep - Carter tried. The pubs wouldn't be bothered with even looking for our worst enemy, the man who masterminded the murder of many many more than just the 3000+ who died on 9/11.

Isn't interesting that its 'honorable' for the pubs to play golf or "clear brush" while it is not honorable for our president to TRY to free our captives.

The GObP/pubs/bags/rw's have emerged as the most anti-American group our country has seen in a long long time.

 

[Annie]

Lakhota

Carter? Okay, let's give President Carter credit.

Mass killings under Communist regimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yep - Carter tried. The pubs wouldn't be bothered with even looking for our worst enemy, the man who masterminded the murder of many many more than just the 3000+ who died on 9/11.

Isn't interesting that its 'honorable' for the pubs to play golf or "clear brush" while it is not honorable for our president to TRY to free our captives.

The GObP/pubs/bags/rw's have emerged as the most anti-American group our country has seen in a long long time.

I was going to delete all the 'off shoots', but after a minutes thought, went nah.


Under-count for certain:

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Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 million.[1] Scholarship focuses on the causes of mass killings in single societies, though some claims of common causes for mass killings have been made. Some higher estimates of mass killings include not only mass murders or executions that took place during the elimination of political opponents, civil wars, terror campaigns, and land reforms, but also lives lost due to war, famine, disease, and exhaustion in labor camps. There are scholars who believe that government policies and mistakes in management contributed to these calamities, and, based on that conclusion combine all these deaths under the categories "mass killings", democide, politicide, "classicide", or loosely defined genocide. According to these scholars, the total death toll of the mass killings defined in this way amounts to many tens of millions; however, the validity of this approach is questioned by other scholars. As of 2011, academic consensus has not been achieved on causes of large scale killings by states, including by states governed by communists. In particular, the number of comparative studies suggesting causes is limited. The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[dubious – discuss][2] There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries....