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I disagree.Not at all. It would not discourage the man whatsoever - such a law would not effect the 'player' in any shape or form.It will never fly. While I agree that the father should have some basic rights here there is really no denying that biology has dictated otherwise. The mother is the one carrying the child.
I wonder what they are going to say in cases where the mother claims a one night stand with someone she does not know and cannot find? That she cant get an abortion now? I do not think that this was even thought through - its enforcement and implications are essentially impossible.
I'm guessing it was thought through.
What a way to discourage one night stands by both women AND men.
Where would that legal document come from? You can do the same today (as the mother can extract child support from the father) and it is never done.I disagree.Not at all. It would not discourage the man whatsoever - such a law would not effect the 'player' in any shape or form.It will never fly. While I agree that the father should have some basic rights here there is really no denying that biology has dictated otherwise. The mother is the one carrying the child.
I wonder what they are going to say in cases where the mother claims a one night stand with someone she does not know and cannot find? That she cant get an abortion now? I do not think that this was even thought through - its enforcement and implications are essentially impossible.
I'm guessing it was thought through.
What a way to discourage one night stands by both women AND men.
True it would not discourage ALL the " "players" out there. But it would make some think twice about having their name on a legal document confirming a Trist / affair with a woman he might not want any such ties with.
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Agree to disagree, maybe.Where would that legal document come from? You can do the same today (as the mother can extract child support from the father) and it is never done.I disagree.Not at all. It would not discourage the man whatsoever - such a law would not effect the 'player' in any shape or form.It will never fly. While I agree that the father should have some basic rights here there is really no denying that biology has dictated otherwise. The mother is the one carrying the child.
I wonder what they are going to say in cases where the mother claims a one night stand with someone she does not know and cannot find? That she cant get an abortion now? I do not think that this was even thought through - its enforcement and implications are essentially impossible.
I'm guessing it was thought through.
What a way to discourage one night stands by both women AND men.
True it would not discourage ALL the " "players" out there. But it would make some think twice about having their name on a legal document confirming a Trist / affair with a woman he might not want any such ties with.
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There is no logical reason to think that this would reduce one night stands.
The question is why would it give you pause?Agree to disagree, maybe.Where would that legal document come from? You can do the same today (as the mother can extract child support from the father) and it is never done.I disagree.Not at all. It would not discourage the man whatsoever - such a law would not effect the 'player' in any shape or form.It will never fly. While I agree that the father should have some basic rights here there is really no denying that biology has dictated otherwise. The mother is the one carrying the child.
I wonder what they are going to say in cases where the mother claims a one night stand with someone she does not know and cannot find? That she cant get an abortion now? I do not think that this was even thought through - its enforcement and implications are essentially impossible.
I'm guessing it was thought through.
What a way to discourage one night stands by both women AND men.
True it would not discourage ALL the " "players" out there. But it would make some think twice about having their name on a legal document confirming a Trist / affair with a woman he might not want any such ties with.
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There is no logical reason to think that this would reduce one night stands.
Just speaking for myself, a law like this would give me some extra cause to think twice about such an encounter. But then, that is probably because I would never want a child of mine aborted in the first place. . . So. . .
Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.
I don't know why that wouldn't be obvious to you. Are you trolling or are you seriously not intuitive enough to see the conflict possibilities between a guy who doesn't want his children aborted and a gal who wants a one night stand and (if it becomes "nevessary") she also might want his written permission on a legal document to abort his child anyway?The question is why would it give you pause?Agree to disagree, maybe.Where would that legal document come from? You can do the same today (as the mother can extract child support from the father) and it is never done.I disagree.Not at all. It would not discourage the man whatsoever - such a law would not effect the 'player' in any shape or form.I'm guessing it was thought through.
What a way to discourage one night stands by both women AND men.
True it would not discourage ALL the " "players" out there. But it would make some think twice about having their name on a legal document confirming a Trist / affair with a woman he might not want any such ties with.
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There is no logical reason to think that this would reduce one night stands.
Just speaking for myself, a law like this would give me some extra cause to think twice about such an encounter. But then, that is probably because I would never want a child of mine aborted in the first place. . . So. . .
Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.
"Necessary" that is.I don't know why that wouldn't be obvious to you. Are you trolling or are you seriously not intuitive enough to see the conflict possibilities between a guy who doesn't want his children aborted and a gal who wants a one night stand and (if it becomes "nevessary") she also might want his written permission on a legal document to abort his child anyway?The question is why would it give you pause?Agree to disagree, maybe.Where would that legal document come from? You can do the same today (as the mother can extract child support from the father) and it is never done.I disagree.Not at all. It would not discourage the man whatsoever - such a law would not effect the 'player' in any shape or form.
True it would not discourage ALL the " "players" out there. But it would make some think twice about having their name on a legal document confirming a Trist / affair with a woman he might not want any such ties with.
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There is no logical reason to think that this would reduce one night stands.
Just speaking for myself, a law like this would give me some extra cause to think twice about such an encounter. But then, that is probably because I would never want a child of mine aborted in the first place. . . So. . .
Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.
Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.
And the children aborted don't have/ shouldn't have "equal" rights. . .In the end...there is only one person who's life will drastically change and who might lose her life in childbirth and that is the mother. Yes, a father's life can drastically change IF he steps up to the plate. But the woman is the one who bears ALL the RISKS including mortality - of childbirth. SHE is the one who might lose her job or drop out of school.
Sorry...but father's don't have equal rights because they don't have equal risks.
And the children aborted don't have/ shouldn't have "equal" rights. . .In the end...there is only one person who's life will drastically change and who might lose her life in childbirth and that is the mother. Yes, a father's life can drastically change IF he steps up to the plate. But the woman is the one who bears ALL the RISKS including mortality - of childbirth. SHE is the one who might lose her job or drop out of school.
Sorry...but father's don't have equal rights because they don't have equal risks.
Because. . .
Why?
Also, if you can quote the exact wording of the Constitution which supports your denial of their right to equal protections? Please do.
Show me an intellectually honest liberal and I will show you a Conservative in the making.
Intellectually honest...ok...what's your stance on the death penalty?
That kind of post does not belong in the CDZ.And if he wants a child and she does not?
I have no doubt that the rabid religious right would chain pregnant women to beds in order to force them to reproduce. And, as we all know, the anti-choice, anti-freedom folks only care about fetuses. They hate children and they hate single mothers.
As always, the answer to this is MYOB.
They do now. A woman can force fatherhood on a man without his permission..If they disagree he can adopt. Problem solved and a homeless child is saved. I understand that some people feel they don't want to raise other people's kids but no one has the right to force any man or woman to reproduce.
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No, we do not have that now. OTOH, a woman CAN force a man to reproduce.No one wants to take on the obvious question of -- What if they disagree? Who is up for forcing women to reproduce at the whim of men?
Oh wait, we already have that!
Nonetheless, this bill is impossible.
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Right now a man loses his reproductive freedom when the woman becomes pregnant. She can force fatherhood on him.Doesn't this violate the basic human right of the mother? No one can be forced to give birth and raise a child they don't want. And how well would they do the job?
