Nevada to join National Popular Vote compact

[Meister]

The vote of the people went against Trump. I understand why you want to end that conversation and talk about states, and I do not sympathize.

What happened to the CRC support for states rights? It seems to have gone "poof!"

That is a very good question you should ask yourself.....what happened to states rights?
A state votes for one candidate, yet the electoral votes goes to the other candidate. Priceless.

That is what happens right now
If 49 percent of the voters vote for a candidate and 51 percent vote for another then the candidate with 51 gets ALL the EVs

The vote of the 49 percent are not counted

Is California and New York in on this? Of course eventually then the EC is moot point. Perhaps the deplorables can elect their own President and you can elect yours.

The popular vote is not moot
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote

I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.

 

[bodecea]

Looking at the post by BlackFlag you quoted....I don't see him saying "each state"....could you point out where he made that assertion, please? ....especially if you are using that comment as the basis for your saying it's a "stupid ass argument". TIA

Classic straw man argument Meister just made. However, I've already discovered he doesn't know what a straw man argument is.

You still haven't figured it out, darling. Make up another one of your scenarios for the win.

The Bill up for a vote won't fly in the courts and I really doubt with most level headed voters, either.

Per usual you have completely failed to make a point. Where in the constitution does it say that the states must distribute their ec votes?

Why do you have no idea how this works, mod? The NVC is not new

We'll have a wait and see in the courts, won't we? Now run along and fetch me a sammich, darling.

The courts will toss it as they should.

Based on what?

 

[BlackFlag]

What happened to the CRC support for states rights? It seems to have gone "poof!"

That is a very good question you should ask yourself.....what happened to states rights?
A state votes for one candidate, yet the electoral votes goes to the other candidate. Priceless.

That is what happens right now
If 49 percent of the voters vote for a candidate and 51 percent vote for another then the candidate with 51 gets ALL the EVs

The vote of the 49 percent are not counted

Is California and New York in on this? Of course eventually then the EC is moot point. Perhaps the deplorables can elect their own President and you can elect yours.

The popular vote is not moot
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote

I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.

People will elect the President. Why are you perseverating on states as if they are people?

We will still be a republic.

 

[bodecea]

our tent was widened with communists and socialists. Great example

You mean folks like Putin and KJU are now in the democratic tent???...........LOL

Bermie, Pocahantas and AOC are no where to be found in the republican tent......LOL!!!!

How are they involved in Nevada's vote on distribution of EC votes?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Lefties love mob rule. Matters not to them WHO is in the mob either.
Gotta give them space to riot ya know!

 

[bodecea]

Classic straw man argument Meister just made. However, I've already discovered he doesn't know what a straw man argument is.

You still haven't figured it out, darling. Make up another one of your scenarios for the win.

The Bill up for a vote won't fly in the courts and I really doubt with most level headed voters, either.

Per usual you have completely failed to make a point. Where in the constitution does it say that the states must distribute their ec votes?

Why do you have no idea how this works, mod? The NVC is not new

We'll have a wait and see in the courts, won't we? Now run along and fetch me a sammich, darling.

I'm sure there will be a court challenge. In the mean time you have completely failed to make your case. You resorted to name calling and a strawman argument.

You wouldn't know a strawman argument if it slapped you in the face.....obviously

Personal attacks?

 

[Meister]

our tent was widened with communists and socialists. Great example

You mean folks like Putin and KJU are now in the democratic tent???...........LOL

Bermie, Pocahantas and AOC are no where to be found in the republican tent......LOL!!!!

How are they involved in Nevada's vote on distribution of EC votes?

If you read the mini conversation you would understand.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The State cannot distribute Electoral Votes to someone that loses the election in that state.

Of course they can. Some states already do.

 

[HappyJoy]

Lefties love mob rule. Matters not to them WHO is in the mob either.
Gotta give them space to riot ya know!

Funny thing. A popular vote is not mob rule. Mob rule would be a mob say voting on the rights of minorities, or a direct democracy without a system of checks and balances like our constitution provides for.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not being represented very well, IMO.

Representatives are in congress, not the executive branch.

 

[bodecea]

Guess you aren't to bright.

What they are doing has nothing to do with The Constitution. So there is no allowing or not. However the EC is in the constitution.

That would be the 12th Amendment

As previously pointed out, the states get to decide how to distribute their EC votes and this does not violate the 12th.

Where were all these CRCs crying "UNCONSTITUTIONAL!" when some states chose to split their Electoral College votes?

Good question.

When it comes down to it, why are they afraid of the will of ALL people?

Sane people know...its the "will" of the wetbacks in Mexifornia.
But, but, but...RUSSIA!

Sure buddy "sane" people like you.

It's like a little boy tugging on the adults' pants and crying for attention.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

That is a very good question you should ask yourself.....what happened to states rights?
A state votes for one candidate, yet the electoral votes goes to the other candidate. Priceless.

That is what happens right now
If 49 percent of the voters vote for a candidate and 51 percent vote for another then the candidate with 51 gets ALL the EVs

The vote of the 49 percent are not counted

Is California and New York in on this? Of course eventually then the EC is moot point. Perhaps the deplorables can elect their own President and you can elect yours.

The popular vote is not moot
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote

I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.

People will elect the President. Why are you perseverating on states as if they are people?

We will still be a republic.

No we wouldn't. You clearly don't understand the difference between a true democracy (mob rule and what you are advocating for) or our current system.

Yall can't make up your minds.....socialism, democracy, republic. Seems you change positions on the fly based on the subject at hand

 

[miketx]

The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor.

Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senateon a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote.

If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.

Nevada Senate passes National Popular Vote bill on party-line vote

That’s 2 new states in less than 2 months. The NPV keeps chugging along.

Treason runs high within the dim crime family.

 

[HappyJoy]

our tent was widened with communists and socialists. Great example

You mean folks like Putin and KJU are now in the democratic tent???...........LOL

Bermie, Pocahantas and AOC are no where to be found in the republican tent......LOL!!!!

How are they involved in Nevada's vote on distribution of EC votes?

If you read the mini conversation you would understand.

No, you don't make a lot of sense and your arguments seem to be based on your feelings alone.

 

[bodecea]

You bed wetters can't win according to the rules, so you have to change them.

It will fail as soon as it ends up in a court with non-bed wetter judges.

IF you had ever read the Constitution....Article II in particular....you would have known that it is the states that determine how to distribute Electoral College votes. IF you had ever read the Constitution, you would have known this is totally Constitutional. IF.

How is allowing people outside the State determine the State's vote for President a "Republican Form of Government", Something that the Federal Constitution guarantees under Article 4, Clause 1?"

It probably also falls foul of the 14th amendment, requiring equal protection under the law. How does transferring a whole States vote to another voting block provide equal protection?

States Rights to determine how they distribute their Electoral Votes....if the people of that state don't like it that way, they vote in state legislators who set up the state's distribution of Electoral Votes to their liking.

And how does this go against Equal Protection Under the Law? Explain, please.

The States are still bound by the Constitution.

It's the same thing that killed things like the Board of Estimates in NYC, where each Boro had representation regardless of population. The 14th guarantees 1 person, 1 vote. Now a person's vote in a State is meaningless with regards to the IN STATE election for electors, because the outcome would be determined by people OUTSIDE the State.

Exactly...the states are still bound by the Constitution. Now show how this would be against the Constitution.

 

[BlackFlag]

That is what happens right now
If 49 percent of the voters vote for a candidate and 51 percent vote for another then the candidate with 51 gets ALL the EVs

The vote of the 49 percent are not counted

Is California and New York in on this? Of course eventually then the EC is moot point. Perhaps the deplorables can elect their own President and you can elect yours.

The popular vote is not moot
EVERY vote would be registered for each candidate
EVERY vote would count as one vote

I'm assuming that you want to take this country from a republic to a democracy, RW.
Five or six states can elect a president, and the rest of the states just has to pound sand?
Not being represented very well, IMO.

People will elect the President. Why are you perseverating on states as if they are people?

We will still be a republic.

No we wouldn't. You clearly don't understand the difference between a true democracy (mob rule and what you are advocating for) or our current system.

Yall can't make up your minds.....socialism, democracy, republic. Seems you change positions on the fly based on the subject at hand

Are we going to stop electing Senators and Representatives? No? Then it’s YOU who doesn’t know what a republic is. Every election but one is done by popular vote. If you don’t like this, pass an amendment taking away state’s right to allocate their electoral votes.

 

[bodecea]

The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor.

Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senateon a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote.

If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.

Nevada Senate passes National Popular Vote bill on party-line vote

That’s 2 new states in less than 2 months. The NPV keeps chugging along.

Treason runs high within the dim crime family.

Oh...now it's treason is it?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Seems you change positions on the fly based on the subject at hand

I.e, what smart people do.

 

[HappyJoy]

As previously pointed out, the states get to decide how to distribute their EC votes and this does not violate the 12th.

Where were all these CRCs crying "UNCONSTITUTIONAL!" when some states chose to split their Electoral College votes?

Good question.

When it comes down to it, why are they afraid of the will of ALL people?

Sane people know...its the "will" of the wetbacks in Mexifornia.
But, but, but...RUSSIA!

Sure buddy "sane" people like you.

It's like a little boy tugging on the adults' pants and crying for attention.

If that little boy kept screaming something akin to the n-word in a crowded mall, sure.

 

[bodecea]

As previously pointed out, the states get to decide how to distribute their EC votes and this does not violate the 12th.

That's nice. Suppose the voters all vote for one candidate and the State award the votes to the other. They would totally disenfranchise the voters in their State.

Give me a past exmaple where California's votes would have gone ot the popular vote winner even though California voted for the other candidate. Have fun.

So far all we have is the electoral college picking the loser, twice within 20 years.

Look it up yourself.

It's never happened, at least not in over 100 years. However twice the popular vote winner which California voted for lost the electoral college. But you guys don't care about that.

I'm a firm believer in the EC.

If not for the EC all elections would be decided by California, New York and the other high population states.

Less populous states votes wouldn't count at all.

So you are against the people deciding on our President.