Netanyahu Cancels Visit as White House Regrets Loss of Life Following Israel Flotilla

[Kalam]

If only people would be willing to actually be objective, they might be able to see through all the lies, misleading articles and outright propaganda being put out by the haters of Israel.

We're well aware of the source of the propaganda in this conflict.

Richard Silverstein: The Israeli foreign ministry itself is asking volunteers to flood news websites with pro-Israel arguments and information | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Government to add English hasbara site
Latest hasbara weapon: 'Army of bloggers'
Israel recruits 'army of bloggers' to combat anti-Zionist Web sites - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
Thought-police is here - Israel Opinion, Ynetnews

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

One of the Americans sailing with the Freedom Flotilla was a decorated Navy vet Joe Meadors. On June 8, 1967 Joe was sailing on the USS Liberty when Israel killed 34 of his shipmates in a deliberate and unprovoked attack.

You are mentally ill, as there is massive evidence of it being an accident.

How come the jew hating dogshit like you never whines about other attacks on the US by allies, like the USS Stark in 1987?

If you have any evidence of "accidents" in Israel's assault of Liberty post it.

It would come as a big surprise to former Liberty crewman Terry Halbardiar who won a Silver Star sliding across a napalm-greased deck to rig an antenna and call for help.

"...US intelligence intercepted Israeli conversations at the time that showed the attacks were deliberate, and their nature and persistence showed clear intent to sink the Liberty and leave no survivors."

That's from Ray McGovern's article.
He spent almost 30 years as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and CIA analyst.

What about you?
RNC?

U.S. Agency Confirms Sinking of USS Liberty was Accident
http://www.nsa.gov/liberty
USS Liberty: Israel Did Not Intend to Bomb the Ship

 

[ekrem]

If only people would be willing to actually be objective, they might be able to see through all the lies, misleading articles and outright propaganda being put out by the haters of Israel.

We're well aware of the source of the propaganda in this conflict.

Richard Silverstein: The Israeli foreign ministry itself is asking volunteers to flood news websites with pro-Israel arguments and information | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
Government to add English hasbara site
Latest hasbara weapon: 'Army of bloggers'
Israel recruits 'army of bloggers' to combat anti-Zionist Web sites - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
Thought-police is here - Israel Opinion, Ynetnews

I just have to say, that the process is being watched by Turkey.
Such claims are meant to ridiculate Turkish deaths.
So everyone should watch her step.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

They've lived there for thousands of years.

American Indians didn't have a country. That doesn't mean it wasn't their land.

Well the jews have been living on that land for thousands of years, It isnt thiers?

so have non-jews from CANAANITES (how did it work out the FIRST time zionism ripped the land from indigenous hands?) to palis. It isn't THEIRS?


funny how it only seems to work for one and not the other, eh?

Yeah they took the land from the cannibals .
Im not sympathetic to their plight, sorry.

 

[Kalam]

You are mentally ill, as there is massive evidence of it being an accident.

How come the jew hating dogshit like you never whines about other attacks on the US by allies, like the USS Stark in 1987?

If you have any evidence of "accidents" in Israel's assault of Liberty post it.

It would come as a big surprise to former Liberty crewman Terry Halbardiar who won a Silver Star sliding across a napalm-greased deck to rig an antenna and call for help.

"...US intelligence intercepted Israeli conversations at the time that showed the attacks were deliberate, and their nature and persistence showed clear intent to sink the Liberty and leave no survivors."

That's from Ray McGovern's article.
He spent almost 30 years as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and CIA analyst.

What about you?
RNC?

U.S. Agency Confirms Sinking of USS Liberty was Accident
http://www.nsa.gov/liberty
USS Liberty: Israel Did Not Intend to Bomb the Ship

Who would expect the US government to clean up after its handler with a misinformation campaign?

All of the men who saw their fellows slaughtered that day know the truth.

More "accidents":
Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jonathan Pollard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ben-ami Kadish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lawrence Franklin espionage scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kalam]

Well the jews have been living on that land for thousands of years, It isnt thiers?

so have non-jews from CANAANITES (how did it work out the FIRST time zionism ripped the land from indigenous hands?) to palis. It isn't THEIRS?


funny how it only seems to work for one and not the other, eh?

Yeah they took the land from the cannibals .
Im not sympathetic to their plight, sorry.

No, goyim living in Palestine aren't "chosen" enough for Zionists' sympathy. If we're to believe their slanderous account of the life of Musa (AS), Israel has a legacy of genocide:

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - Numbers 31:15-18​

 

[Oscar Wao]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu canceled plans to visit the White House on Tuesday after Israeli commandos killed at least 10 activists aboard a flotilla heading toward Gaza overnight with aid and arms in violation of an Israeli blockade.

The White House is taking a cautious approach before chastising Israel as it awaits more details on what happened in the conflict. The United Nations was preparing an emergency session that would most likely end in condemnation.

Netanyahu had been expected to arrive in Washington, D.C., Tuesday after leaving Canada, where he's been meeting with officials there. Instead, he is headed back to Israel.

White House spokesman Bill Burton said Monday the United States "deeply regrets the loss of life and injuries sustained" in the incident.



FOXNews.com - Netanyahu Cancels Visit as White House Regrets Loss of Life Following Israel Flotilla Conflict


but chastaize them they will.. you can count on it.. Good for Benjamen. he stays put when it's important.. and secondly he will have someone to eat his dinner with in Israel.

Why do some Americans treat Israel as if IT is our country right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

 

[georgephillip]

According to his 1981 book Weapons Russell Warren Howe asserts that "...200 feet below the (Liberty) on a parallel course, was its shadow-- the Polaris strategic submarine the Andrew Jackson, whose job it was to take out all of Israel's long range missile sites in the Negev if Tel Aviv decided to attack Cairo, Damascus, or Baghdad."

"This was in order that Moscow not have to perform this task itself and thus trigger World War Three."

Howe claims ol Hickory filmed the entire assault through its periscope but was prevented by its mission from taking action.

Scholars and critics from Noam Chomsky in 1983 to James Bamford in 2001 have come to the conclusion the attack on Liberty was deliberate, either because Liberty snooped on Israeli plans to attack Syria's Golan Heights or mass killings of Arab civilians and captured Egyptian troops near El- Arish.

Every known survivor of the Liberty's crew feels exactly the same way.

Who's more likely to be lying? (USS Liberty Incident)

 

[CMike]

One of the Americans sailing with the Freedom Flotilla was a decorated Navy vet Joe Meadors. On June 8, 1967 Joe was sailing on the USS Liberty when Israel killed 34 of his shipmates in a deliberate and unprovoked attack.

You are mentally ill, as there is massive evidence of it being an accident.

How come the jew hating dogshit like you never whines about other attacks on the US by allies, like the USS Stark in 1987?

If you have any evidence of "accidents" in Israel's assault of Liberty post it.

It would come as a big surprise to former Liberty crewman Terry Halbardiar who won a Silver Star sliding across a napalm-greased deck to rig an antenna and call for help.

"...US intelligence intercepted Israeli conversations at the time that showed the attacks were deliberate, and their nature and persistence showed clear intent to sink the Liberty and leave no survivors."

That's from Ray McGovern's article.
He spent almost 30 years as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and CIA analyst.

What about you?
RNC?

Complete lie.

A NSA spy plane got transcripts of Israeli pilots which showed that the Israeli pilots thought that first it was an Egyptian warship, and then an Egyptian cargo ship.

In fact, when Israeli finally realized it was American they were the first ones there to rescue the Americans.

Here is the actual document of the transcript.

http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/liberty.pdf

Page 3 the Israeli command said it's postively identified as Egptian.

Page 5 they thought it was an egyptian cargo ship

This transcript completely vindicates Israel. It was gotten from a US spy plane, and declassified.

 

[CMike]

At least six US government investigations all concluded it was an accident.

This is from the US Naval Inquiry. All the testimony and conclusions are public documents, and I will put the link.

USS LIBERTY COURT OF INQUIRY

FINDINGS OF FACT

1. Available evidence combines to indicate the attack on
LIBERTY on 8 June was in fact a case of mistaken
identity.
2. The calm conditions and slow ship speed may well have
made the American Flag difficult to identify.

3. The ship's westerly heading at the time of attack - in
the general direction of Egyptian ports may have
reinforced elements of doubt in the minds of the several
Israeli pilots who looked the ship over in the forenoon.

4. The colors were shot down early in the action and were
replaced prior to the PT attack.

5. The immediate confusion milling around astern followed
by peaceful

[161]

overtures by the attacking surface forces after launching
only two torpedoes of the six presumed available (two on
each PT boat), indicate these craft may well have identified
the colors for the first time when they got in close enough
to see clearly through the smoke and flames billowing, at
times above the mast head.

6. There are no available indications that the attack was
intended against a U. S. Ship.

7. LIBERTY'S position at the time of the attack has been
previously ordered changed farther to seaward by JCS;
however, the messages relating to these changes were not
known to the ship before the attack took place. The reasons
these messages were not known to the ship can be determined
in all instances except for one. Since LIBERTY records and
knowledgeable personnel were lost in the action, it is
impossible to determine the disposition of the message.

8. The communication delays and mis-routing errors which
caused these several non-deliveries combined with delays in
initiating follow-up actions on operational instructions
received, all contributed to the ship itself being unaware
of plans and decisions made for her repositioning. A
detailed accounting of the five pertinent messages are
attached as appendices one through five.

 

[CMike]

Conclusions of all official government investigations.

The USS Liberty Attack

U.S. Reports
U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry, June 18, 1967
" Available evidence combines to indicate the attack on the Liberty on 8 June was in fact a case of mistaken identity."

CIA Report, June 13, 1967
The attack was a mistake. In 1978, in a response to an inquiry, Director of Central Intelligence Stansfield Turner wrote: "It remains our best judgment that the Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was not made in malice toward the United States and was a mistake."

Joint Chiefs of Staff, Russ Report, June 9-20, 1967 General Russ did not make any findings about the actual attack. The report compiled all message traffic and contains no evidence that the attack was not a mistake.

Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Clifford Report, July 18, 1967
"The information thus far available does not reflect that the Israeli high command made a premeditated attack on a ship known to be American…. "

National Security Agency, 1981
"Liberty was mistaken for an Egyptian ship as a result of miscalculation and egregious errors."

Israeli Report
Ram Ron Commission of Inquiry, June 16, 1967
"[T]he attack on the ship by the Israeli Defense Forces was made neither maliciously nor in gross negligence, but as a result of a bona fide mistake."

 

[CMike]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu canceled plans to visit the White House on Tuesday after Israeli commandos killed at least 10 activists aboard a flotilla heading toward Gaza overnight with aid and arms in violation of an Israeli blockade.

The White House is taking a cautious approach before chastising Israel as it awaits more details on what happened in the conflict. The United Nations was preparing an emergency session that would most likely end in condemnation.

Netanyahu had been expected to arrive in Washington, D.C., Tuesday after leaving Canada, where he's been meeting with officials there. Instead, he is headed back to Israel.

White House spokesman Bill Burton said Monday the United States "deeply regrets the loss of life and injuries sustained" in the incident.



FOXNews.com - Netanyahu Cancels Visit as White House Regrets Loss of Life Following Israel Flotilla Conflict


but chastaize them they will.. you can count on it.. Good for Benjamen. he stays put when it's important.. and secondly he will have someone to eat his dinner with in Israel.

Why do some Americans treat Israel as if IT is our country right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

Who do some "Americans" treat arab terrorists as if THEY was their own people right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love arab terrorists more than their own country.

 

[CMike]

U.S. Agency Confirms Sinking of USS Liberty was Accident

The documents, originally defined as top secret, were made public by Florida Judge Jay Cristol, who has been investigating
the Liberty incident for years and published a book on the subject last year. On Monday, the NSA gave him a transcript of
conversations held by two Israeli Air Force helicopter pilots who were hovering over the Liberty as it was sinking, and these
tapes confirm Israel's claim that the sinking of the ship, which killed 34 American servicemen and wounded 171, was a tragic
error.

After the Liberty was bombed by both the Israel Air Force and the Israel Navy, the two helicopter pilots were summoned
from their base to assess the damage and evaluate the possibility of recuing the surviving crew members. An American spy
plane, which had been sent to the area as soon as the NSA learned of the attack, recorded their conversations, which took place
between 2:30 and 3:37 P.M. on June 8, the third day of the war.

The spy plane also recorded the orders radioed to the pilots by their supervisor at Hatzor Base, which instructed them to
search for Egyptian survivors from the "Egyptian warship" that had just been bombed - thus supporting Israel's claim that it
had believed the ship was Egyptian when it ordered it attacked. "Pay attention. The ship is now identified as Egyptian," the
pilots were told.

Nine minutes later, Hatzor informed the pilots that it was not an Egyptian warship, but an Egyptian cargo ship. Only at
3:07 were the pilots first informed that the ship might not have been Egyptian at all: Hatzor told them that if they found
Arabic-speaking survivors, they should be taken to El-Arish, but if they found English-speaking survivors, they should be
taken to Lod. "Clarify by the first man that you bring up, what nationality he is, and report to me immediately," the
supervisor instructed, according to the transcript. "It's important to know."

Then, at 3:12, one of the pilots informed Hatzor that he saw an American flag flying over the wounded ship. He was asked
to investigate and determine whether it was really an American ship.
This is not the first time such transcripts have been made public: Israel gave its own recordings of the pilots' conversations to
the British television station Thames in 1987. But conspiracy theorists charged that Israel had doctored the tapes before
handing them over to the station in order to hide the fact that it sank the Liberty intentionally. No such imputation can be
made about these new transcripts, as they were never in Israeli hands.

Israel has always said it attacked the Liberty, which America sent to the region to gather intelligence on the progress of the
war, because it believed it was an Egyptian supply ship ferrying supplies to the Egyptian troops that Israel was then fighting.
When it discovered the error, it immediately informed the Americans, apologized and paid compensation to the victims'
families.

The incident was investigated by inquiry commissions in both Israel and the United States, and both concluded that it had,
indeed, been a tragic error. .

 

[bodecea]

Why do some Americans treat Israel as if IT is our country right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

Who do some "Americans" treat arab terrorists as if THEY was their own people right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love arab terrorists more than their own country.

I would love to bet you...quite a bit. Lets see if we can come up with an accurate form of measuring.


Oh wait, that's right. You can't.

 

[CMike]

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

Who do some "Americans" treat arab terrorists as if THEY was their own people right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love arab terrorists more than their own country.

I would love to bet you...quite a bit. Lets see if we can come up with an accurate form of measuring.


Oh wait, that's right. You can't.

Thanks for sharing

 

[georgephillip]

"During the morning of the attack, early June 8, the ship (Liberty) was overflown by Israeli Air Force (IAF) aircraft including a Nord Noratlas and Mirage III jet fighters eight times. At least some of those flybys were from close range...

"When the Nord landed and its naval observer debriefed the ship was further identified as the USS Liberty based on its GTR-5 markings.

"Many of the Liberty crewmen gave testimony one of the aircraft flew so close to the Liberty that its propellers rattled the deck plating of the ship, and the pilots waved to the crew of Liberty, and the crewmen waved back."

Who's lying?
The crew of Liberty or those who were paid to cover up Israel's crime?

USS Liberty Incident

 

[CMike]

"During the morning of the attack, early June 8, the ship (Liberty) was overflown by Israeli Air Force (IAF) aircraft including a Nord Noratlas and Mirage III jet fighters eight times. At least some
"When the Nord landed and its naval observer debriefed the ship was further identified as the USS Liberty based on its GTR-5 markings.

"Many of the Liberty crewmen gave testimony one of the aircraft flew so close to the Liberty that its propellers rattled the deck plating of the ship, and the pilots waved to the crew of Liberty, and the crewmen waved back."

Who's lying?
The crew of Liberty or those who were paid to cover up Israel's crime?

USS Liberty Incident

 

[Nik]

Why do some Americans treat Israel as if IT is our country right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

Who do some "Americans" treat arab terrorists as if THEY was their own people right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love arab terrorists more than their own country.

I'll take that bet. Lets see you find links to us "arab terrorist lovers" as you so idiotically call it justifying terrorist attacks against Americans.

As for you Israeli obsessed asshats justifying attacks against Americans...

See Rachel Corrie.

See Furkan Dogan.

Yes. Thats right. The raid you assholes are defending killed an American.

 

[CMike]

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

Who do some "Americans" treat arab terrorists as if THEY was their own people right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love arab terrorists more than their own country.

I'll take that bet. Lets see you find links to us "arab terrorist lovers" as you so idiotically call it justifying terrorist attacks against Americans.

As for you Israeli obsessed asshats justifying attacks against Americans...

See Rachel Corrie.

See Furkan Dogan.

Yes. Thats right. The raid you assholes are defending killed an American.

Your arab terrorist brethern are linked together.

If you support Hamas, you are supporting Al Qaida.

It's the same shit.

 

[CMike]

I bet those you speak of love Israel more than their own country.

Who do some "Americans" treat arab terrorists as if THEY was their own people right or wrong?

I bet those you speak of love arab terrorists more than their own country.

I'll take that bet. Lets see you find links to us "arab terrorist lovers" as you so idiotically call it justifying terrorist attacks against Americans.

As for you Israeli obsessed asshats justifying attacks against Americans...

See Rachel Corrie.

See Furkan Dogan.

Yes. Thats right. The raid you assholes are defending killed an American.

He wasn't an American. He was a turkish arab terrorist, and he deserved to die. Fucker.