Nazi quotes just for fun!!

Just know this, that kind of talk cost the GOP the election in 2012 and it'll cost the GOP the election in 2016, mark my words. Wanna keep going with legitimate rape too?

Besides, your idea of history would be completely biased and I don't have time to fact-check.

Nice Red Herring.

I really wish people would be more honest in dialogue. You don't like the truth so you have to spin it to something stupid like those "legitimate rape" comments. Because you think you have a win there. But by doing so you completely ignore legitimate conversation because you don't like where it's going.

I'm not asking you to fact check. Im inviting you to get off your butt and learn something. History is important. Because where we were and how we got here from them has alot to do with determining where we are going.

We have thousands of years of human history at our disposal. I hope one of these days we will actually learn from it and not repeat previous mistakes.

Unfortunately, it's still true that those who fail to learn from history are doommed to repeat it. And those that do learn from history are doomed to watch mankind make the same mistakes.
 
Nazis were collectivists. Progressives are collectivists.

Winston Churchill once wrote, "The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his peers, is the highest degree of odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian governments whether Nazi or Communist".

Obama just signed the NDAA which gives the American government the power to do just that to it's citizens.


So you quoting a statement that says they are different, your also quoting a socialist, also you anaslsys od the ndaa is laughable

You know Luke, I had suspected you were a little daft, but your interpretation of the NDAA shows that you are completely INSANE!

Good job!!

Ah yes, win a debate by first dicrediting and mocking.

Do you even know what is in the legislation? Like most works of legislation, it covers a little bit of everything, but buried in the thousands of pages is Title X, Subtitle D entitled "counter-terrorism" which is the most controversial aspect of the bill. Esentially, it says that persons the government suspects........just suspects.........of involvement in terrorism can be held by the government indefinately without trial. Can you see the potential for abuse?

Then again, those in power are such swell guys they would never do such a thing, right? In fact, the collectivist FDR did not need this to lock away Japanese Americans, so I'm not even sure why they bothered to pass it.
 
The brightest minds in the world? You guys are quite hilarious.

But then, that is 100 years of progressive propaganda talking here. There is a reason the Nazi's studied the Progressives. They were good at what they did.

How o convince a fool he is a fool, last time I checked all people of credit in the field of social science say your wrong.......let me guess you think the world is 5000 years old too.

You mean progressive social scientists say he is wrong? Who would ever have thunk it?
 
The brightest minds in the world? You guys are quite hilarious.

But then, that is 100 years of progressive propaganda talking here. There is a reason the Nazi's studied the Progressives. They were good at what they did.

How o convince a fool he is a fool, last time I checked all people of credit in the field of social science say your wrong.......let me guess you think the world is 5000 years old too.

I don't presume to know how old the world is. Im not that arrogant and I am not that old. So I have no problem waiting to make sure everything is clear. The fact that you've closed your mind off to possibilities doesn't say much about your ability to correct yourself if you are wrong though. It's just never occured to me to take a dogmatic position on how old the world is when it really isn't that important and I have an Eternity to learn it all.

BTW I can see you didn't bother looking up the "Appeal to authority" Fallacy like I recommended. I presume you think Galileo was a fool for not accepting what the "experts" in the field were saying that the world wasn't heliocentric. Or that Columbus was a fool for wanting to sail West since the "experts" all knew the world is flat.

Those who seek the truth often buck what the experts try to claim. Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with challenging the status quo or conventional wisdom.

They just assume that if you are not a progressive then you must be a Christian right winged hack who thinks that God approves of women getting raped. It is easier than actually thinking that anyone with half a brain would challenge the status quo.
 
I don't think the brightest minds in the world are trying to fool anyone, too bad avatar you have fallen pray to the right wing idiot machine.

The brightest minds in the world? You guys are quite hilarious.

But then, that is 100 years of progressive propaganda talking here. There is a reason the Nazi's studied the Progressives. They were good at what they did.

I don't think that the progressives sat down to study them. I honestly think that it is a natural tendency to gravitate toward collectivism. Even since the ancients, like Plato, who wrote "The Republic" that outlined a utopia where the common man was governed by masterminds who dictated every aspect of human interaction we have had a myriad of attempts at utopia. It just so happens that the road to collectivism is a road well travelled. That is why they all appear to be so similar.

There is really nothing new under the sun, rather, there is just ignorance regarding the past. That is why I get a kick out of people presenting progressivism as some kind of new cutting edge philosophy that should replace an old tired US Constitution. Looking at human history, creating a society with relative equality, which is what the Founders accomplished, seems an odd ball experiment of sorts that has over the years been destroyed through progressive steps to centralize power. By in large, looking at the history of man, mankind has enslaved his fellow man on average. It is his nature.

There is nothing wrong with having a strong sense of the community. The problem comes when people start arbitrarily sacrificing individuals for the sake of the community. When we all learn to do our duty and fulfill our individual, family, and society responsibilities, societies are far more successful than when we sacrifice individuals for the collective.
 
And you all wonder why we have no civility in this country. Simply amazing.

Calling each other evil and all other manner of hateful shit then wondering why no one is willing to comprimise.


You know who's like nazi's?

NAZI'S



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Some idealogies are evil. Eugenics, for example, is evil. Calling it evil isn't uncivil. Nor is it unkind. Pretending that it is perfectly alright is what is unkind and uncivil.

I'm not even sure a progressive would even say evil exists. Then again, everyone agrees Hitler was evil. LOL.
 
You mean progressive social scientists say he is wrong? Who would ever have thunk it?

I know. But then, he didnt even say who was claiming it. As far as I know this "Harvard" social scientist might not even exist. (Another good reason citations are good when you are referencing someone else).

What I find insulting is this idea that if the "experts" say something is a certain way, we shouldn't have the audacity to think it out for ourselves and come to our own opinions. Where the heck would we be if every individual in society just blindly followed what the self proclaimed experts said?
 
So you quoting a statement that says they are different, your also quoting a socialist, also you anaslsys od the ndaa is laughable

You know Luke, I had suspected you were a little daft, but your interpretation of the NDAA shows that you are completely INSANE!

Good job!!

Ah yes, win a debate by first dicrediting and mocking.

Do you even know what is in the legislation? Like most works of legislation, it covers a little bit of everything, but buried in the thousands of pages is Title X, Subtitle D entitled "counter-terrorism" which is the most controversial aspect of the bill. Esentially, it says that persons the government suspects........just suspects.........of involvement in terrorism can be held by the government indefinately without trial. Can you see the potential for abuse?

Then again, those in power are such swell guys they would never do such a thing, right? In fact, the collectivist FDR did not need this to lock away Japanese Americans, so I'm not even sure why they bothered to pass it.

I think you're directing your comment at the wrong poster, I'm fully aware of the evil embedded in the NDAA.

Luke the Progressive is the one with brain block...
 
You mean progressive social scientists say he is wrong? Who would ever have thunk it?

I know. But then, he didnt even say who was claiming it. As far as I know this "Harvard" social scientist might not even exist. (Another good reason citations are good when you are referencing someone else).

What I find insulting is this idea that if the "experts" say something is a certain way, we shouldn't have the audacity to think it out for ourselves and come to our own opinions. Where the heck would we be if every individual in society just blindly followed what the self proclaimed experts said?


Read some history. The Nazis studied American Progressives? Absolute drivel.
 
Of course you can source all of these, right? I mean, you didn't just demonstrate the height of intellectual laziness and blindly parrot some email or blog entry you saw, right? Right?

How ironic would that be, considering one of those quotes says, "What luck for the rulers that men do not think". :lol:




Here's another thing Hitler said, "Heil Diversity!"

Another, "I hate it when a dildo gets stuck in my anus."







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If you anything about history, you would not need references. You would just belittle the references anyway. But if you knew anything about history, you would know that all of these statements fits perfectly with who they were and what was going on, and yes, they claimed to be socialists. They also had a fiat system, they had a welfare system and the most progressive tax system in the world. Although they allowed private industry, they opposed capitalism devoid of central planning. Hitler's philosophy was to allow such private control so long as they could be controlled. Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeouis, and anti-capitalistic rhetoric, although such aspects were later down played in order to gain the support of industrial entities. In other words, Hitler cared neither for industry or for the people, he was only after control.

The NSDAP headed the welfare efforts in NAZI Germany. Many of the ministers, state secretaries, and advisers acted the part of traditional demagogues, constantly asking themselves how best to secure and consolidate general satisfaction and daily buying public approval or at least indifference. During the war the Nazi leadership tried to distribute food supplies in such a way that they were seen to be fairly allocating, but especially to the poor. They did all this to maintain the apparent stability of the Reichsmark to prevent any worrying reminder of the inflation of the 1914-1918 war or the collapse of the German currency in 1923. After all, their currency was a fiat currency and not based upon gold. Therefore, public confidence was vital to maintain the value of the currency. Hitler saw to it that the farmers, manual workers, white collar workers and lower class workers were not significantly burdened by taxes, however, the "rich" had to pay taxes out the ying yang. The exceptional tax of RM8abn that property owners were required to pay at the end of 1942 in Nazi Germany is but an example of the policy of such social justice.

Hitler said that the welfare of the German people, or the Deutsche Volk, was the supreme good, which is why the state took over medical care. Once the Nazis seized control they quickly required compulsary vaccination and sterilization of certain segments of the population that were regarded as genetically inferior. In fact, the Nazis were health nuts. Hitler became a vegetarian in 1931 and there were health campaigns to urge people to eat whole grain bread instead of white bread. In 1939 it was also found that smoking contributed to cancer, as regulations were put into place to forbid public smoking. The Nazis also promoted prevention of illness and declared a war on cancer. Robert Ley, the head of the Labor Front, urged workers to drink tea instead of their traditional beer, however, his anti-alcohol campaign suffered from his notorious drunken state.

In terms of PETA, the Nazis gave them a run for their money as well. Heinrich Hemmler made an effort to ban hunting of animals and on April 21, 1933, almost immediatly after the Nazi regime came to power the parliament began to pass laws for the regulation of animal slaughter and use in medical experiments. In fact, Nazi Germany was the first nation to ban vavisection. Hermann Goring proudly announced, "those who still think we can continue to treat animals as inanimate property will be sent to concentration camps." LOL.

I do know my history, fool, and anyone who thinks National Socialism is a leftist philosophy is an idiot. Such drivel is dangerous wishful thinking that is choosing to see only half the picture.

There isn't a person on this board who isn't a WN who has a better understanding of Nazis than me.


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Other fun Hitler quotes:


Hitler addresses and laughs his ass off at you dumbshits who think Nazism is a leftist philosophy:
For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!


See if this sounds identical to what we hear from the right these days about Obama's long term goals:

But even more: the Jew becomes suddenly also 'liberal' and he begins to rave of the necessary 'progress' of mankind.

Thus he gradually makes himself the spokesman of a new time.

Of course, he destroys then also more and more thoroughly the foundations of a truly useful national economy.

Pretty spooky, eh?


We chose the red color of our posters after exacting and thorough reflection, in order to provoke the leftists by this,to bring them to indignation and to induce them to come to our meetings, if only to break them up, so that in this way we were at least enabled to speak to these people.


All of these are from Mein Kampf.

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Chaim Weizman, Israel’s first president, and the Zionist advocate who had the most to do with lobbying the British for the Balfour Declaration of 1917:
each country can absorb only a limited number of Jews, if she doesn’t want disorder in her stomach. Germany already has too many Jews

… the determining factor in this matter is not the is solubility of Jews, but the solvent power of the country. … This cannot be looked upon as anti-Semitism in the ordinary or vulger sense of that word; it is a universal social and economic concomitant of Jewish immigration, and we cannot shake it off …

http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/the-zionist-nazi-collaboration/#identifier_1_45104


The document was entitled, “Proposal for the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the side of Germany.” The NMO, later to adopt the name Lohamamei Herut Yisrael, or lehi for short, was universally known by its British designation as the Stern ang.

The document read:

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people, Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historical boundaries … The NMO, which is well acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a New Order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed volkish-national Hebrium would be possible; and,

3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, and bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East.

Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom movement, are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively take part in the war on Germany’s side [italics mine].

This offer by the NMO … would be connected to the military training and organization of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.

The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New Order in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity with the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of all humanity.19
 
Chaim Weizman, Israel’s first president, and the Zionist advocate who had the most to do with lobbying the British for the Balfour Declaration of 1917:
each country can absorb only a limited number of Jews, if she doesn’t want disorder in her stomach. Germany already has too many Jews

Do you have the full text of that speech? That sentence is conveniently truncated, which makes it very suspicious.


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Am I calling an unknown person wrong? Yes. Yes I am.

See if we are on a left right spectrum, the left being in favor of more government, the right in favor of less, than Nazi's as totalitarians would be on the far left. Anarchists would be far right.

But then, I get the impression that you don't really care for accurate classifications. You just want to say the right is a bunch of nazis to excuse yourself from debating any one on the issues.

Once again your education is off a match box, the statement that Harvard university stands by and stakes it's reputation on as an institution of higher learning, suggests you are utterly and very wrong. By the way, prinston released a statement that backs Harvard. I will digit up give me a moment.

Are you familiar with the "appeal to authority" fallacy? Look it up sometime.

You are the one who needs to look it up.

Appeal to authority is only a fallacy when the authority is speaking outside their area of expertise. The Harvard sociology department is a valid authority on the subject of the political orientation of Nazis.

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Anyway, Hitler himself identified himself as being opposite the leftists. He laughed his ass off at the idiots who thought Nazis were on the left end of the spectrum.

I showed you his own words.

"For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!"

Hitler is laughing at you dipshits.

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Anyway, Hitler himself identified himself as being opposite the leftists. He laughed his ass off at the idiots who thought Nazis were on the left end of the spectrum.

I showed you his own words.

"For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!"

Hitler is laughing at you dipshits.

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Certain elements of the GOP seem to have done quite a job of rewriting history.
 
Anyway, Hitler himself identified himself as being opposite the leftists. He laughed his ass off at the idiots who thought Nazis were on the left end of the spectrum.

I showed you his own words.

"For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!"

Hitler is laughing at you dipshits.

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Well if we are to believe our leftist friends the political spectrum changed sides some where around LBJ so even if Hitler didn't identify with leftists groups THEN certainly if we are to believe the leftist liberals today they certainly would identify with Hitler TODAY. Or doesn't it work that way?
 
Anyway, Hitler himself identified himself as being opposite the leftists. He laughed his ass off at the idiots who thought Nazis were on the left end of the spectrum.

I showed you his own words.

"For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!"

Hitler is laughing at you dipshits.

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Certain elements of the GOP seem to have done quite a job of rewriting history.

I don't see a revision of history. What I see is quotes from Hitler that sounds very, very much like what we hear out of the left today.
 
Anyway, Hitler himself identified himself as being opposite the leftists. He laughed his ass off at the idiots who thought Nazis were on the left end of the spectrum.

I showed you his own words.

"For even today these heads have not understood the difference between Socialism and Marxism. Especially when, in addition, they discovered that in our meetings we principally did not address ladies and gentlemen' but only 'fellow citizens,' and that among ourselves we spoke only of party members, the Marxist ghost seemed to be proved for many of our enemies. How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal!"

Hitler is laughing at you dipshits.

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Certain elements of the GOP seem to have done quite a job of rewriting history.

I don't see a revision of history. What I see is quotes from Hitler that sounds very, very much like what we hear out of the left today.
Like Hitler's hatred of Socialists, Unions, and homosexuals?
 

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