Navy's Newest Ship To Be Named The USS Cesar Chavez?

[Sallow]

He does not belong among presidents, heros, or the great pioneers of america. This name is political only and has nothing to do with military tradition or reasoning. What next? The USS Andy Stern?

Chavez was a pioneer in terms of the rights of workers. He's done a great deal to help protect and enrich the lives of a great many people.

Damn right his name belongs on a ship.

Through collective thuggery. Face it. Its a political name for a ship to please leftists. It breaks with military tradition. There are thousands of those who are more worthy. Now his united farm workers are openly a socialist/marxist organization. Whats next huh? the USS Che Guvera?

What thuggery?

Oh..another ad hoc insult.

Got it.

 

[Publius1787]

Please. You started name calling in your OP, moron.

What union goons? Is that your problem? No, you see, my op is not an arguement or debate. It may be arguementattive in nature but I did not result to namecalling as a last resort after debating someone because I had nothing left as you do. See the difference? Well, Your attempt at assigning guilt through moral equvilency has failed. Mainly because you never think beyond the previous post. Which is why you also cant stick to the topic and resort to namecalling and profanity. What a country huh? Your welcome.

You make ad hoc insults and get whiny when you get insulted back.

Classic.

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

 

[Sallow]

What union goons? Is that your problem? No, you see, my op is not an arguement or debate. It may be arguementattive in nature but I did not result to namecalling as a last resort after debating someone because I had nothing left as you do. See the difference? Well, Your attempt at assigning guilt through moral equvilency has failed. Mainly because you never think beyond the previous post. Which is why you also cant stick to the topic and resort to namecalling and profanity. What a country huh? Your welcome.

You make ad hoc insults and get whiny when you get insulted back.

Classic.

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

 

[Ravi]

You make ad hoc insults and get whiny when you get insulted back.

Classic.

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

 

[Sallow]

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

Sorta "telling"..ain't it?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Navy's Newest Ship To Be Named The USS Cesar Chavez?

Not too long after naming a naval vessal after the Marine veteran and congressman, Jack Murtha, who slandered innocent Marines for the advancement of a political agenda, (See here > Michelle Malkin » JOHN MURTHA HANGS THE MARINES and here > Defend Our Marines ) the Secretary of the Navy, Ray Mabus, gave the OK for the Navy's newist supply ship to be named after hispanic labor activist and founder of the United farm Workers Union Cesar Chavez. As Black Five shows, this is certainly a change from honoring military hero's to making a political statement. Ray Mabus, who is in charge of naming these ships is a democratic politition who served two years in the navy from 1970-1972 and aside from that has never held a job in reguards to national defence. A picture of him "going hippie" and seriously taking advantage of the navys relaxed beard standards is below. Or you can see it here > ( The Scoop Deck ).

From Black Five BLACKFIVE: USS Cesar Chavez? The times they are a-changing

The Cesar Chavez will join the Lewis and Clark class of supply ships. Ships of this class are named after American explorers and pioneers:

•Lewis and Clark, famous explorers
•Sacagawea, interpreter and guide for Lewis and Clark
•Richard E. Byrd, naval officer and polar explorer
•Alan Shepard, naval aviator and first American in space
•Robert E. Peary, naval officer and first person to reach the North Pole
•Amelia Earhart, aviation pioneer
•Carl Brashear, the Navy's first black master diver (portrayed by Cuba Gooding, Jr. in the film Men of Honor)
•Wally Shirra, naval aviator and one of the Mercury astronauts
•Matthew Perry, naval commodore that achieved the opening of Japan
•Charles Drew, developed large-scale blood banks during World War II
•Washington Chambers, pioneer of naval aviation
•William McLean, developed the Sidewinder air-to-air missile
•Medgar Evers, World War II veteran and assassinated civil rights activist
The namesakes of both Lewis and Clark-class ships named during the Obama administration (Medgar Evers and Cesar Chavez) may meet the dictionary definition of "pioneer," but their pioneering field was civil and labor rights - a departure from those of military-related fields. Naming ships after activists seems about as odd as naming a civil rights department after Chesty Puller.

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties. You dont need to look far until you find out that Chavez is worsiped among the left as he is with the Democratic Socialists of America here > DSA Anti-Racism Editorial: Csar Chvez: Presente and here DSA 2001 Convention Keynote Address: Eliseo Medina
Or the Communist Party USA as shown here > What does Cesar Chavez mean to you? » cpusa and here > Report on Cesar Chavez Holiday » cpusa
Or Obama's SEIU buddies as shown here > SEIU UHW - Celebrating César Chavez Day

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CobTqFTLork]YouTube - ‪Unions Unite on Cesar Chavez Day‬‏[/ame]

For more information on the naming of the ship check here >>>
Navy's Plan to Name Ship for Cesar Chavez Sparks Another Ship-Naming Tempest - Battleland - TIME.com
Navy names ship for Cesar Chavez, but controversy hasn’t died down yet | Multi-American
Barbara Boxer | USNS Cesar Chavez | Ship Naming | The Daily Caller
BLACKFIVE: USS Cesar Chavez? The times they are a-changing
USS Cesar E. Chavez? | NBC San Diego

Your Current Secretary of the Navy ........................................... Cesar Chavez

Yet it is OK to name an aircraft carrier after Reagan???

You do realize Reagan was a two-term U.S. President, don't you?

 

[Publius1787]

You make ad hoc insults and get whiny when you get insulted back.

Classic.

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

I have allready explained this. Your lack of english comprehension isnt my fault.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

Oh gee, the race card! How refreshing.

 

[Sallow]

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

I have allready explained this. Your lack of english comprehension isnt my fault.

You should learn the language before criticizing someone else for their lack of comprehension.

 

[Publius1787]

I would suggest you read the trail before you comment next time. But then again I know thats asking alot. Oh, and there is a difference in calling a union full of goons and thugs in the op and resulting to profanity and namecalling when you have absolutly nothing left in a debate. My previous post makes this position clear. The rest lies on your english skills. I wont keep my hopes up. See? That was a qualified insult. They sting more than blatiant profanity and namecalling.

Did you read your own OP?

Perhaps Barack Obama had a hand in the naming of this ship? After all, every year on the nonexistant national holiday of "Cesar Chavez Day" all the Obama supporting union goons come out with their red commie flags, SEIU t-shirts, Che Guvera shirts, socialist propaganda, and posters with fists on the that mimick the propaganda present during the times of Soveit Russia. And they come out for a whole host of issues from socialized medicine to welfare, to supporting illegal immmigration, and all the other issues favored by those who are upset that our Constitution is a document of negative liberties.

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

Here comes accusations of more racism. Cabt beat them? Call them racist! Do me a favor. Go to a united farm workers rally (founded by cesar chaves) and count the Che t-shirts!

 

[TheBrain]

Did you read your own OP?



It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

I have allready explained this. Your lack of english comprehension isnt my fault.

You should learn the language before criticizing someone else for their lack of comprehension.

A typo is not indicative of a lack of knowledge of the English language.

 

[Publius1787]

Did you read your own OP?



It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

I have allready explained this. Your lack of english comprehension isnt my fault.

You should learn the language before criticizing someone else for their lack of comprehension.

And there he goes pushing the subject further and further away from the op. Why am i not surprised. You would argue with a hole in the wall if you felt it insulted you. Me, on the other hand. I'm done talking about anything but the actual topic of this thread.

 

[Ravi]

Did you read your own OP?

It's also incorrect. Commies..much like Fascists..hate unions.

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

Here comes accusations of more racism. Cabt beat them? Call them racist! Do me a favor. Go to a united farm workers rally and count the Che t-shirts!

I can't think of any other reason that you would compare the two. It would be no different than you getting upset that MLK got a ship named after himself and you whining, what next, the USS OJ Simpson?

You're a fraud.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

Here comes accusations of more racism. Cabt beat them? Call them racist! Do me a favor. Go to a united farm workers rally and count the Che t-shirts!

I can't think of any other reason that you would compare the two. It would be no different than you getting upset that MLK got a ship named after himself and you whining, what next, the USS OJ Simpson?

You're a fraud.

Would Al Cowling be the Captain of the USS OJ Simpson?

 

[Sallow]

I have allready explained this. Your lack of english comprehension isnt my fault.

You should learn the language before criticizing someone else for their lack of comprehension.

And there he goes pushing the subject further and further away from the op. Why am i not surprised. You would argue with a hole in the wall if you felt it insulted you. Me, on the other hand. I'm done talking about anything but the actual topic of this thread.

You made a charge, chief. Then goofed in the very same post.

Ironic.

 

[Ravi]

Here comes accusations of more racism. Cabt beat them? Call them racist! Do me a favor. Go to a united farm workers rally and count the Che t-shirts!

I can't think of any other reason that you would compare the two. It would be no different than you getting upset that MLK got a ship named after himself and you whining, what next, the USS OJ Simpson?

You're a fraud.

Would Al Cowling be the Captain of the USS OJ Simpson?

 

[Publius1787]

Yep...and that he compares Chavez to Che Guevara makes me suspect his main objection is the latino name.

Which is why I asked him that question.

Here comes accusations of more racism. Cabt beat them? Call them racist! Do me a favor. Go to a united farm workers rally and count the Che t-shirts!

I can't think of any other reason that you would compare the two. It would be no different than you getting upset that MLK got a ship named after himself and you whining, what next, the USS OJ Simpson?

You're a fraud.

Does any organisation that supports MLK walk up and down the dtreets with OJ simpson shirts on? no. Does the united farm workers (founded by Chavez) walk up and down the streets with Che Guvera shirts on? Yes. End of story.

 

[Publius1787]

You should learn the language before criticizing someone else for their lack of comprehension.

And there he goes pushing the subject further and further away from the op. Why am i not surprised. You would argue with a hole in the wall if you felt it insulted you. Me, on the other hand. I'm done talking about anything but the actual topic of this thread.

You made a charge, chief. Then goofed in the very same post.

Ironic.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Sallow]

Here comes accusations of more racism. Cabt beat them? Call them racist! Do me a favor. Go to a united farm workers rally and count the Che t-shirts!

I can't think of any other reason that you would compare the two. It would be no different than you getting upset that MLK got a ship named after himself and you whining, what next, the USS OJ Simpson?

You're a fraud.

Does any organisation that supports MLK walk up and down the dtreets with OJ simpson shirts on? no. Does the united farm workers (founded by Chavez) walk up and down the streets with Che Guvera shirts on? Yes. End of story.

You know this, how, exactly?

 

[Sallow]

And there he goes pushing the subject further and further away from the op. Why am i not surprised. You would argue with a hole in the wall if you felt it insulted you. Me, on the other hand. I'm done talking about anything but the actual topic of this thread.

You made a charge, chief. Then goofed in the very same post.

Ironic.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I sleep fine regardless.