Native american and black entitled

[Godboy]

Don't you think the Indians were acting in self-defense for the most part... I know if that shit happened to me I'd be liable to scalp some mother fuckers too.

Any situation where Indians went into settlements and massacred every living person there... men, women and children, was a situation where they were not acting in self defense. That is offensive behavior, not defensive. If that happened to a neighborhood near you, you would go fucking apeshit and youd want every indian in the area to be destroyed so it wouldnt happen to YOUR neighborhood next time.

Want EVERY Indian destroyed? Isn't that the exact same overreaction they committed? Not all White people killed Indians, and not all Indians wanted to kill innocent White people. The problem was that (on both sides) one Indian or White person killing one of the other race led to a desire to kill ALL whites or all Indians.

We didnt kill every indian, in fact they are doing well on the reservations today. The money they generate from the Casinos is making all of them rich. Most of the indian population died because of small pox, and if you think we spread the small pox to them through blankets, you dont know the true history of indians and small pox.

Theres no proof that white men gave small pox infested blankets to them even a single time. That was simply rumors spread by indian sympathizers, based on some obscure mention of blankets in a low rankings soldiers diary from the time. You should go read up on the supposed evidence that says white people did this. Im certain that you will see that its based on nothing, and its not even realistic that it happened for many other reasons, including the fact that people werent aware of how disease was spread back in the day, so they wouldnt know to use blankets. You can also ask a disease expert today about the likelihood of catching small pox from using a blanket with small pox in it. Its near impossible.

 

[Maple]

NATIVE AMERICAN AND BLACK ENTITLED


To free healthcare but not for illegal aliens. Native Americans are victims of thief and broken treaties by the government and black are victims by their ancestors being brought here against their will and force into slave labor for 200 years and aided and abetted by the government. They are entitled to collect on the labor of their ancestors but they are not required to pay for routine medical care and catastrophic medical care for illegal aliens and their children while they and their own go without.
The illegal alien who entered this country when he was 15 and worked illegally for the same company for 20 years should not expect hospitals to give him free healthcare, but he do. When the center was closed where he was receiving free dialysis, they offered him a free ride back home and he refused saying; “No thank you”? what part of illegal really means illegally I this country? The company that employed him illegally for 20 years should be force to pay for his dialysis and his living expense and then he should be deported. Are illegal aliens entitled to the same benefits as an American citizens just because they have been in their county a “long” time?
Americans need to hold this country accountable.

" I'm in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." And you. Frank Lloyd Wright.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Goddamn Lonestar, the man was making a joke.

But if you want to hand out cash you can always throw some my way....

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Goddamn Lonestar, the man was making a joke.

But if you want to hand out cash you can always throw some my way....

He should leave the jokes to the professionals... the democratic party.

 

[California Girl]

Goddamn Lonestar, the man was making a joke.

But if you want to hand out cash you can always throw some my way....

He should leave the jokes to the professionals... the democratic party.

 

[Saladin]

Er...how do we break it to her that the majority of illegal immigrants are Native Americans? You'll notice that the political class of Mexico and other Latin American countries is dominated by criollos, direct descendants of Spanish immigrants. It's those of indigenous stock that endured and continue to endure racism enshrined in the Hispanic culture imported by the criollos' ancestors, and Native Americans that are most prevalent among the working class laborers that are displaced and forced to migrate by economic conditions.

 

[Angelhair]

One of the greatest things about this country is its open door policy. Don't like it here? Find a country where you would be happier. Problem solved.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Money slave owners made for free labor went to building this country and help to make it what it is today

Did you intend to write "Many" instead of "Money" ?

Have you heard of the American Civil War? Most of the slave owners lost most of their wealth during the war/reconstruction, so how can they be said to have benefited past that point? If the government had Bought those slaves (to free them) and had the owners been left with generations of accumulated capital, then you might have a better claim, but as it is, your assumption falls flat.

FYI - entitlement is a phrase used to entrap the entitled parties. For an example look at what Welfare did to the black communities of the 50's. Thriving people with a true future had it stolen by the horrid reality of welfare 'entitlement'
Just say no to Big Brother.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Compensation is not so rare. It is done all the time to people who have been unjustly incarcerated, after the Japanese were release from internment camps, and the government did not think is so ridiculous to compensate native americans. Jews were compensated for their lost during the war so why not compensate blacks whose ancestors were slaves for their 200 years of free labor the enriched this country and people are still benefiting from? Money slave owners made for free labor went to building this country and help to make it what it is today

the japs and the jews were still alive.....big dam difference.....

 

[AllieBaba]

my people were forced from hungary a little over 100 years ago. Is it time for me to go back there and demand our property back, and free healthcare, and restitution?


why not?


the earliest indians wiped out the woolly mammoth and wild horses in north america. I demand restitution on behalf of the animals they decimated!

what kind of animal are you?

The point is, they should return the land to the animals. After contributing money to genetically restore the mammoths and native horses.

 

[AllieBaba]

NATIVE AMERICAN AND BLACK ENTITLED


To free healthcare but not for illegal aliens. Native Americans are victims of thief and broken treaties by the government and black are victims by their ancestors being brought here against their will and force into slave labor for 200 years and aided and abetted by the government. They are entitled to collect on the labor of their ancestors but they are not required to pay for routine medical care and catastrophic medical care for illegal aliens and their children while they and their own go without.
The illegal alien who entered this country when he was 15 and worked illegally for the same company for 20 years should not expect hospitals to give him free healthcare, but he do. When the center was closed where he was receiving free dialysis, they offered him a free ride back home and he refused saying; “No thank you”? what part of illegal really means illegally I this country? The company that employed him illegally for 20 years should be force to pay for his dialysis and his living expense and then he should be deported. Are illegal aliens entitled to the same benefits as an American citizens just because they have been in their county a “long” time?
Americans need to hold this country accountable.

Just so we are clear, what exactly is this 'free healthcare' of which you speak? 'Free healthcare' doesn't exist - anywhere on the planet.

And if you are not intelligent to know the difference between 'free' and 'free at the point of delivery' then you are too stupid to debate about anything more complex than the oft dicussed 'coke or pepsi' debate.

Oh, and no one is entitled to 'free' anything that forces someone else to pay for it. I don't give a shit what race, color or creed they are.

I vote that she's too stupid to debate. Including the coke or pepsi debate.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Compensation is not so rare. It is done all the time to people who have been unjustly incarcerated, after the Japanese were release from internment camps, and the government did not think is so ridiculous to compensate native americans. Jews were compensated for their lost during the war so why not compensate blacks whose ancestors were slaves for their 200 years of free labor the enriched this country and people are still benefiting from? Money slave owners made for free labor went to building this country and help to make it what it is today

LilOidiot, blacks have already been compensated. They were allowed to be a part of the greatest country in the world, they have entitlements that blacks in other countries only dream of. And what about the Debt Blacks Owe to America? If not for the sacrifices of white soldiers and a white American president…blacks in America would still be slaves, denied …the greatest freedoms, and the most thoroughly protected individual rights anywhere. Where is the acknowledgment of black America and its leaders for those gifts?


The most famous statement of the arguments against reparations comes from David Horowitz, who took out a series of advertisements in college newspapers in the spring of 2001. His advertisement, entitled, "Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Slavery are a Bad Idea and Racist, Too," established the basis for the arguments against reparations. Horowitz' ten points are:

1. There Is No Single Group Clearly Responsible For The Crime Of Slavery

2. There Is No One Group That Benefitted Exclusively From Its Fruits

3. Only A Tiny Minority Of White Americans Ever Owned Slaves, And Others Gave Their Lives To Free Them

4. America Today Is A Multi-Ethnic Nation and Most Americans Have No Connection (Direct Or Indirect) To Slavery

5. The Historical Precedents Used To Justify The Reparations Claim Do Not Apply, And The Claim Itself Is Based On Race Not Injury

6. The Reparations Argument Is Based On The Unfounded Claim That All African-American Descendants of Slaves Suffer From The Economic Consequences Of Slavery And Discrimination

7. The Reparations Claim Is One More Attempt To Turn African-Americans Into Victims. It Sends A Damaging Message To The African-American Community.

8. Reparations To African Americans Have Already Been Paid

9. What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

10. The Reparations Claim Is A Separatist Idea That Sets African-Americans Against The Nation That Gave Them Freedom.

 

[AllieBaba]

NATIVE AMERICAN AND BLACK ENTITLED


To free healthcare but not for illegal aliens. Native Americans are victims of thief and broken treaties by the government and black are victims by their ancestors being brought here against their will and force into slave labor for 200 years and aided and abetted by the government. They are entitled to collect on the labor of their ancestors but they are not required to pay for routine medical care and catastrophic medical care for illegal aliens and their children while they and their own go without.
The illegal alien who entered this country when he was 15 and worked illegally for the same company for 20 years should not expect hospitals to give him free healthcare, but he do. When the center was closed where he was receiving free dialysis, they offered him a free ride back home and he refused saying; “No thank you”? what part of illegal really means illegally I this country? The company that employed him illegally for 20 years should be force to pay for his dialysis and his living expense and then he should be deported. Are illegal aliens entitled to the same benefits as an American citizens just because they have been in their county a “long” time?
Americans need to hold this country accountable.

The new correct way to refer to Injuns is "American Indians" not "Native Amercians"....since they aren't native, after all.

Call them Indians, for God's sakes. It's what they call themselves. Or, if you prefer slang, NJNs.....or just Indians. Or Native. Give up the Native American shit.

 

[Navy1960]

The human cost of these civil liberties violations was high. Families were disrupted, if not destroyed, reputations ruined, homes and belongings lost. By the end of the war, 11,000 persons of German ancestry, including many American-born children, were interned.

Pressured by the United States, Latin American governments collectively arrested at least 4,050 German Latin Americans. Most were shipped in dark boat holds to the United States and interned. At least 2,000 Germans, German Americans and Latin American internees were later exchanged for Americans and Latin Americans held by the Third Reich in Germany.
Internment of German Americans in the United States during World War II

So if one group of Americns are entitled, so then should all Americans of all races based on past history. Some seem to think that only one race or another has had issues in the past in this nation, well thats simply is not the case. Our nations history with treatment of people(s) of all ethnic backgrounds from white to brown to black and everything in between has been checkered. To go back and then compensate one group over another would be taking many steps back and not steps forward.

 

[Saladin]

The new correct way to refer to Injuns is "American Indians" not "Native Amercians"....since they aren't native, after all.

Call them Indians, for God's sakes. It's what they call themselves. Or, if you prefer slang, NJNs.....or just Indians. Or Native. Give up the Native American shit.

And yet, the "Injuns" aren't from India. And come to think of it, native "Europeans" are actually "native" to Africa in the long run, aren't they? I'd suggest not entering the naming dispute.