candycorn
Diamond Member
So every player on those winning teams should be Hall of Famers?
No. Not saying you are stating that as your only position but I have heard that argument before and I disagree with it.
Hall of Fame is about individual talent, not wins and losses. Now I do agree with you that stats should not be the only factor. And I also agree that system players that win should get a big star for that.
Try playing in different schemes with rotating coaches and see how hard it is to run up any decent stats, much less win!
But the main factor is stats. One of the few things I have liked about free agency, and there are only a few, is the fact that the criteria is what you have done, not how much you have won.
Yeah...thats how come I said "hall of distinguished". I don't know; I think you can make a case either way.
According to: Ken Stabler NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com:
An MVP; 4 Pro Bowls. Lead league in passing TD's twice .
28,000 Yards for the career puts him in the top 50 QBs.
Super Bowl Champion. All NFL several years.
But what I keep going back to...
Code:Year Age Tm G GS QBrec 1970 25 OAK 3 0 1971 26 OAK 14 1 1-0-0 1972 27 OAK 14 1 0-1-0 1973* 28 OAK 14 11 8-2-1 1974*+ 29 OAK 14 13 11-2-0 1975 30 OAK 14 13 10-3-0 1976* 31 OAK 12 12 11-1-0 1977* 32 OAK 13 13 10-3-0 1978 33 OAK 16 16 9-7-0 1979 34 OAK 16 16 9-7-0 1980 35 HOU 16 16 11-5-0 1981 36 HOU 13 12 5-7-0 1982 37 NOR 8 8 4-4-0 1983 38 NOR 14 14 7-7-0 1984 39 NOR 3 0 Career 184 146 96-49-1
He won 75 percent of his games. So if you want to say he's not HOF material, okay. If you want to say he is, okay. I think he's probably on top of the bubble.
I noticed Freddie B is in the HOF...wow; I didn't know that.
"Anytime a slow, skinny, wild eyed, scary looking white boy can get in it is a good thing."
And it was a black team mate of his that stated that.
But not at the ceremony!
Who was that?