My problem with the NFL re: National Anthem

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bonzi, Sep 25, 2017.

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    It's mostly about handling fame, money, and stress in both cases. For Gawds sakes, at LEAST finish college before you join the NFL. Condition your life to be a "hero". All those jersey sales are to people that look up to you. Get your team members under control. And I don't mean the kind of hazing that goes on with the rookies. Have a plan for when you retire in 15 years.

    Organize for positive change. Don't take the easy way to protest, just because you can. That applies to the fluff heads in Hollywood as WELL as the NFL. The NFL has made it quite clear what the expectations are in player rules and contracts. It's not asking much for working 7 months a year and getting trainloads of cash.

    Or doing 2 movies a year and spending the rest of your time blowing thru piles of cocaine and accumulating bling an wardrobes.
     
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    Colin K thought it OK to wear a Fidel Castro shirt to a photo op. That's actually a political statement that is not gonna endear him to the business that he is in. Poor JUDGEMENT of any kind -- really disqualifies you as a public icon. It's divisive for the sake of being divisive. It doesn't transmit any kind of COHERENT MESSAGE. So -- it's also not really speech. It's shouting also.

    This is what Twitter has brought us. A lot of incoherent rage and shouting. And YET -- it gets the same status as "real news". Leaders focus on messaging. Bullies and megalomaniacs shout and Tweet.
     
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    Message Boards are the ORIGINAL form of "social media". They were supposed to promote coherent topical discussions. Some of us still believe that's a wise use of the Internet. Wouldn't disturb me at all to be losing some of "megaphones" that tech has created that only increase the noise and the shouting and cultural rot and division. Maybe folks will get enough of the tribal conflict -- before it turns into a hot war.
     
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    I agree, Trump is a bully and a megalomaniac...

    What does this have to do with Kapenick and a t-shirt?
     
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    “Why do you not respect the flag or our country.”

    Engaging in peaceful, lawful protest is to respect the flag or our country, and what that flag stands for.
     
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    Wrong.

    One is honoring all those who fight and have fought for our country and built it.

    Protest, dissent, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances are fundamental tenets of the American Nation.
     
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    Same kind of instigation of division. No difference. Bad judgement on C.K.'s part as well. What he was doing was shouting. Not actually speech or conversation..
     
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    . Listen, when you want to hold an adult conversation, then you come on back and let me know. I'm tired of you on the left spinning and spinning and spinning like an out of control rinse, wash, and repeat cycle of an old worn out washing machine. No matter how much you use it, your mess still comes out dirty.
     
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    It's only an "instigation" because white people don't want to admit to themselves this is still a problem.

    No matter how many videotapes they are shown of police brutalizing black folks.

    It's been 25 years since Rodney King. Why is this still a problem?
     
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    Right wing, "hate on the poor"; it is what black codes were all about.
     

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