My experience/views on black people... am I a racist?

[IM2]

You tell us why it’s not racist that you oppose these programs

May I?

A just society treats everyone the same based on merit

and does not treat people of one race better in order to create a preferred outcome

You do understand that whites have been treated better in order to created the preferred outcome of white supremacy don't you?

 

[Unkotare]

...You really hate liberals. ...

I really have disdain for racists and hypocrites like YOU.

 

[Unkotare]

...So you look down on these parents. Why do you think they are so ignorant? Because you clearly see them as ignorant

Your straw man is an offensive lie, you POS.

 

[IM2]

With all due respect, I do not think that people should criticize people of the ethnicity under discussion.

I think that people should understand that they have a unique history in our country: slavery, de facto and de jure segregation until the 1960s. Certain cultural aspects have been passed down through their families.

I am not a bleeding heart. I am 83 years old and have had many unpleasant experiences, mostly with their youth. So I am under no illusions. But I think that we should be as respectful to them as possible and at the same time do the best that we can under the circumstances. I believe, for example, that we should support the police (so long as they act in a humane manner), and we should avoid movements such as BLM. I personally am so disappointed that so many Caucasian youths have participated in those marches. I have no doubt that as they age and have more real-life experiences, they will come to rue the day that they gave support to BLM.

We are like the survivors in a lifeboat. We have to get along with one another as best as we can. There is no alternative.

The Left Wing Leaders, Press, Politicians and Pundits exploit Minorities to maintain their power
power = money
A Democrat Politician's worst nightmare is racial harmony

Actually it is the republicans nightmare, which is why you guys are in here trying to lie about America.

 

[IM2]

...You call people an idiot, ...

Not everyone, just the idiots like those who think that they - or the person they are pissing at - represent an entire 'race' of people. Any productive discussion has to at least recognize the absurd illogic of such thinking.

Did you say something? Nobody on this thread has claimed to represent either race to the best of my knowledge and belief. IM2 THINKS he speaks for the entire black community, but, only those with an IQ lower than their shoe size buys into his extremist B.S.

Actually I don't but I do speak to how blacks see things better than you do. Now charlie chumplock, provide an example of my black extremism. Because you're the one pushing a well known white supremacist belief about the 14th amendment.

I responded to this once before and then saw unkotare's reply to you wherein that POS wants to say negative things to me. Soooo... IN SEVEN PARAGRAPHS I AM GOING TO PROVE, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THAT IM2 IS AN UNEDUCATED IDIOT AND A BLACK SUPREMACIST OR A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Ever since I came onto USM, IM2 has maintained that white supremacists embrace my work on the 14th Amendment. Occasionally, a white supremacist will come along, realize that my work would lead to a much better political outcome for white people; however, my work on the 14th Amendment shows that the illegally ratified 14th Amendment did not give blacks any "rights," but rather repealed the Bill of Rights and it had little to do with race except that the United States Supreme Court did, in fact, rule prior to the 14th Amendment that the Constitution was not intended to cover the black race. What Roger Taney wrote in the Dred Scott v. Sanford ruling is fact and I cannot change that in order to make blacks people feel good about themselves. As an example that this issue of the 14th Amendment being illegally ratified, I direct your attention to the following post on this board:

If the Bill of Rights makes liberalism illegal how does liberalism survive? See my post # 38

Approximately FOUR DECADES ago, while in school, a law professor kept telling us about the "facts" of a case. My law professor found a "right to smoke cigarettes" and I challenged it. Where were the facts? It resulted in a disciplinary action that almost got me thrown out of school. Moral: Don't challenge law school presuppositions. So, it motivated me to study the subject of Rights. I uncovered the fact that whether by accident or design the government was attacking our unalienable Rights and by the passage of the illegally ratified 14th Amendment, they nullified any God given Rights we could claim as the above link will explain. The 14th Amendment DID create TWO distinct categories of citizenship: a Preamble Citizen and a 14th Amendment citizen. The man who pioneered that legal argument was Howard Freeman and here is his introduction to the subject so that you can see THAT was not predicated on any "racist" argument: The Two United States and the Law

My work was an extension of the research Freeman had begun. I discovered that through the use of the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment we had been reduced to absolute slavery. We no longer had unalienable Rights, but mere privileges with ownership papers making every person in America a slave. Oh, we have the illusion of Freedom and Liberty, but at the end of the day, we are owned and controlled by puppet masters. Those puppet masters control the Ds and the Rs so that it ends up being one hand washing the other.

IF white supremacists embraced my work, then have IM2 explain to you how the anti - immigrant Tea Party Republican, United States Congressman James Sensenbrenner, introduced not only the unconstitutional so - called "Patriot Act," but the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify B.S. that mandates all of you subjects to have a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again "Social Security Number" so that you can be tracked 24 / 7 / 365. If my work was about white supremacy, how in the Hell did the white supremacists end up supporting National ID? IM2 wants to credit my work with being part of white supremacy; however, if any of you have the courage to do the research, that is not the case. I've been at war with white supremacists, ESPECIALLY, the dumb asses on the anti - immigrant side who reversed almost 25 years of hard won court victories by imposing the SSN as a unique identifier on the American people. WITHOUT the SSN (which you were not required to have prior to National ID), you did not have to pay the income tax. Neither could the government lay claim to owning you as chattel property. Yes, it would have been of a major benefit to the white people, but that was just a natural outcome like building a park for kids results in giving birds healthy trees to nest in.

Both the Ds and the Rs are being played and that is not about white supremacy. The white supremacists do not back my work, but are working hard for the far left. The far left socialists want back-ground checks on firearms. But, those would mean very little without the National ID that makes tracking and surveillance of all the government's subjects possible. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are making it easier for the government to control them. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are eliminating the Right to Privacy. I've shown to the white supremacists that Donald Trump's nutty wall idea was Bill Clinton's idea BEFORE Trump championed the idea. How did both the Ds and the Rs support the same, exact idea at different times... unless they were being controlled by forces they don't understand?

Some neo-Confederates make some lip service argument about illegitimacy regarding the 14th Amendment only to jump onto Trump's MAGA bandwagon and lobby for National ID and enforcing the draconian E Verify laws, proving they don't understand a damn thing about the arguments they make except to the extent that it tells them what they want to hear about a very narrow issue. At the end of the day, they end up helping the far left realize their goals and objectives while doing damage to the work I began many decades ago. IM2 doesn't have a freaking clue as to what he's talking about and now comes his opportunity to research the subject and find out he's been played by world powers operating in a capacity he cannot fathom. Will he do the right thing OR continue to misrepresent me?

Do you believe the income tax is unconstitutional? Ever see freedom to fascism?

I have referred many a person to that documentary. I worked with people like Tupper Saussy, Robert Clarkson, and Irwin Schiff back in the good old days, learning what worked and what didn't by reading their case files and what the courts were saying. That is how I learned about SSN based ID, adhesion contracts, and how the government used the race issue to destroy the concept of unalienable Rights. Still, with the facts on the table the Ds and the Rs allow themselves to be played and racial extremists are so wrapped up in their cause that they can't see the forest for the trees. The people like IM2 are claiming that it's about white supremacy while the white supremacists uphold the 14th Amendment and deny unalienable Rights because they live under a delusion that the immigration laws only allow "legal" Americans any rights (sic.) NEITHER the Ds nor the Rs; black racist or white racist sees any benefit of Rights that are above the reach of government - so they are all equally bound by the slave state they vote for.

You keep calling blacks racist and what is this based on?

You cannot deny unalienable rights if they are god given. You have declared America was made for whites and the 14th amendment which gave us citizenship was illegally ratified. But you don't claim anything about the 1790 Naturalization Act except that it's proof America is for whites. You do not see Judge Taneys decision are the usurpation of our unalienable rights as blacks. Instead it was another justification of America is for whites. So your belief in white supremacy is evident.

 

[Mac-7]

You do understand that whites have been treated better in order to created the preferred outcome of white supremacy don't you?

Thats past tense

no one can change the past but blacks have their future in their hands the same way everyone else does

 

[Porter Rockwell]

...You call people an idiot, ...

Not everyone, just the idiots like those who think that they - or the person they are pissing at - represent an entire 'race' of people. Any productive discussion has to at least recognize the absurd illogic of such thinking.

Did you say something? Nobody on this thread has claimed to represent either race to the best of my knowledge and belief. IM2 THINKS he speaks for the entire black community, but, only those with an IQ lower than their shoe size buys into his extremist B.S.

Actually I don't but I do speak to how blacks see things better than you do. Now charlie chumplock, provide an example of my black extremism. Because you're the one pushing a well known white supremacist belief about the 14th amendment.

I responded to this once before and then saw unkotare's reply to you wherein that POS wants to say negative things to me. Soooo... IN SEVEN PARAGRAPHS I AM GOING TO PROVE, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THAT IM2 IS AN UNEDUCATED IDIOT AND A BLACK SUPREMACIST OR A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Ever since I came onto USM, IM2 has maintained that white supremacists embrace my work on the 14th Amendment. Occasionally, a white supremacist will come along, realize that my work would lead to a much better political outcome for white people; however, my work on the 14th Amendment shows that the illegally ratified 14th Amendment did not give blacks any "rights," but rather repealed the Bill of Rights and it had little to do with race except that the United States Supreme Court did, in fact, rule prior to the 14th Amendment that the Constitution was not intended to cover the black race. What Roger Taney wrote in the Dred Scott v. Sanford ruling is fact and I cannot change that in order to make blacks people feel good about themselves. As an example that this issue of the 14th Amendment being illegally ratified, I direct your attention to the following post on this board:

If the Bill of Rights makes liberalism illegal how does liberalism survive? See my post # 38

Approximately FOUR DECADES ago, while in school, a law professor kept telling us about the "facts" of a case. My law professor found a "right to smoke cigarettes" and I challenged it. Where were the facts? It resulted in a disciplinary action that almost got me thrown out of school. Moral: Don't challenge law school presuppositions. So, it motivated me to study the subject of Rights. I uncovered the fact that whether by accident or design the government was attacking our unalienable Rights and by the passage of the illegally ratified 14th Amendment, they nullified any God given Rights we could claim as the above link will explain. The 14th Amendment DID create TWO distinct categories of citizenship: a Preamble Citizen and a 14th Amendment citizen. The man who pioneered that legal argument was Howard Freeman and here is his introduction to the subject so that you can see THAT was not predicated on any "racist" argument: The Two United States and the Law

My work was an extension of the research Freeman had begun. I discovered that through the use of the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment we had been reduced to absolute slavery. We no longer had unalienable Rights, but mere privileges with ownership papers making every person in America a slave. Oh, we have the illusion of Freedom and Liberty, but at the end of the day, we are owned and controlled by puppet masters. Those puppet masters control the Ds and the Rs so that it ends up being one hand washing the other.

IF white supremacists embraced my work, then have IM2 explain to you how the anti - immigrant Tea Party Republican, United States Congressman James Sensenbrenner, introduced not only the unconstitutional so - called "Patriot Act," but the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify B.S. that mandates all of you subjects to have a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again "Social Security Number" so that you can be tracked 24 / 7 / 365. If my work was about white supremacy, how in the Hell did the white supremacists end up supporting National ID? IM2 wants to credit my work with being part of white supremacy; however, if any of you have the courage to do the research, that is not the case. I've been at war with white supremacists, ESPECIALLY, the dumb asses on the anti - immigrant side who reversed almost 25 years of hard won court victories by imposing the SSN as a unique identifier on the American people. WITHOUT the SSN (which you were not required to have prior to National ID), you did not have to pay the income tax. Neither could the government lay claim to owning you as chattel property. Yes, it would have been of a major benefit to the white people, but that was just a natural outcome like building a park for kids results in giving birds healthy trees to nest in.

Both the Ds and the Rs are being played and that is not about white supremacy. The white supremacists do not back my work, but are working hard for the far left. The far left socialists want back-ground checks on firearms. But, those would mean very little without the National ID that makes tracking and surveillance of all the government's subjects possible. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are making it easier for the government to control them. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are eliminating the Right to Privacy. I've shown to the white supremacists that Donald Trump's nutty wall idea was Bill Clinton's idea BEFORE Trump championed the idea. How did both the Ds and the Rs support the same, exact idea at different times... unless they were being controlled by forces they don't understand?

Some neo-Confederates make some lip service argument about illegitimacy regarding the 14th Amendment only to jump onto Trump's MAGA bandwagon and lobby for National ID and enforcing the draconian E Verify laws, proving they don't understand a damn thing about the arguments they make except to the extent that it tells them what they want to hear about a very narrow issue. At the end of the day, they end up helping the far left realize their goals and objectives while doing damage to the work I began many decades ago. IM2 doesn't have a freaking clue as to what he's talking about and now comes his opportunity to research the subject and find out he's been played by world powers operating in a capacity he cannot fathom. Will he do the right thing OR continue to misrepresent me?

Do you believe the income tax is unconstitutional? Ever see freedom to fascism?

I have referred many a person to that documentary. I worked with people like Tupper Saussy, Robert Clarkson, and Irwin Schiff back in the good old days, learning what worked and what didn't by reading their case files and what the courts were saying. That is how I learned about SSN based ID, adhesion contracts, and how the government used the race issue to destroy the concept of unalienable Rights. Still, with the facts on the table the Ds and the Rs allow themselves to be played and racial extremists are so wrapped up in their cause that they can't see the forest for the trees. The people like IM2 are claiming that it's about white supremacy while the white supremacists uphold the 14th Amendment and deny unalienable Rights because they live under a delusion that the immigration laws only allow "legal" Americans any rights (sic.) NEITHER the Ds nor the Rs; black racist or white racist sees any benefit of Rights that are above the reach of government - so they are all equally bound by the slave state they vote for.

What IM2 should understand is that while some whites in America are racist there are an awful lot of diversity programs and affirmative action programs that white corporate America and white private schools have designed to help minorities. We aren’t all bad.

Even a lot of you White people who don’t believe in affirmative action programs Would happily hire a person of color if they thought thatperson was qualified.

I just want guys like you to acknowledge that bias exists. That would be a step in the right direction

"Bias" is a natural phenomenon. Some people like think chicks; some like 'em thick. If someone prefers to be with white people, I fail to see how it is wrong. If another person wants this diversity B.S. that discriminates against whites, that's their thing and I pass no moral judgment on them. Neither will I allow them to denigrate me over what I prefer or do not prefer. Sometimes you may find yourself accepting what is available to get things done.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

...You call people an idiot, ...

Not everyone, just the idiots like those who think that they - or the person they are pissing at - represent an entire 'race' of people. Any productive discussion has to at least recognize the absurd illogic of such thinking.

Did you say something? Nobody on this thread has claimed to represent either race to the best of my knowledge and belief. IM2 THINKS he speaks for the entire black community, but, only those with an IQ lower than their shoe size buys into his extremist B.S.

Actually I don't but I do speak to how blacks see things better than you do. Now charlie chumplock, provide an example of my black extremism. Because you're the one pushing a well known white supremacist belief about the 14th amendment.

I responded to this once before and then saw unkotare's reply to you wherein that POS wants to say negative things to me. Soooo... IN SEVEN PARAGRAPHS I AM GOING TO PROVE, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THAT IM2 IS AN UNEDUCATED IDIOT AND A BLACK SUPREMACIST OR A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Ever since I came onto USM, IM2 has maintained that white supremacists embrace my work on the 14th Amendment. Occasionally, a white supremacist will come along, realize that my work would lead to a much better political outcome for white people; however, my work on the 14th Amendment shows that the illegally ratified 14th Amendment did not give blacks any "rights," but rather repealed the Bill of Rights and it had little to do with race except that the United States Supreme Court did, in fact, rule prior to the 14th Amendment that the Constitution was not intended to cover the black race. What Roger Taney wrote in the Dred Scott v. Sanford ruling is fact and I cannot change that in order to make blacks people feel good about themselves. As an example that this issue of the 14th Amendment being illegally ratified, I direct your attention to the following post on this board:

If the Bill of Rights makes liberalism illegal how does liberalism survive? See my post # 38

Approximately FOUR DECADES ago, while in school, a law professor kept telling us about the "facts" of a case. My law professor found a "right to smoke cigarettes" and I challenged it. Where were the facts? It resulted in a disciplinary action that almost got me thrown out of school. Moral: Don't challenge law school presuppositions. So, it motivated me to study the subject of Rights. I uncovered the fact that whether by accident or design the government was attacking our unalienable Rights and by the passage of the illegally ratified 14th Amendment, they nullified any God given Rights we could claim as the above link will explain. The 14th Amendment DID create TWO distinct categories of citizenship: a Preamble Citizen and a 14th Amendment citizen. The man who pioneered that legal argument was Howard Freeman and here is his introduction to the subject so that you can see THAT was not predicated on any "racist" argument: The Two United States and the Law

My work was an extension of the research Freeman had begun. I discovered that through the use of the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment we had been reduced to absolute slavery. We no longer had unalienable Rights, but mere privileges with ownership papers making every person in America a slave. Oh, we have the illusion of Freedom and Liberty, but at the end of the day, we are owned and controlled by puppet masters. Those puppet masters control the Ds and the Rs so that it ends up being one hand washing the other.

IF white supremacists embraced my work, then have IM2 explain to you how the anti - immigrant Tea Party Republican, United States Congressman James Sensenbrenner, introduced not only the unconstitutional so - called "Patriot Act," but the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify B.S. that mandates all of you subjects to have a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again "Social Security Number" so that you can be tracked 24 / 7 / 365. If my work was about white supremacy, how in the Hell did the white supremacists end up supporting National ID? IM2 wants to credit my work with being part of white supremacy; however, if any of you have the courage to do the research, that is not the case. I've been at war with white supremacists, ESPECIALLY, the dumb asses on the anti - immigrant side who reversed almost 25 years of hard won court victories by imposing the SSN as a unique identifier on the American people. WITHOUT the SSN (which you were not required to have prior to National ID), you did not have to pay the income tax. Neither could the government lay claim to owning you as chattel property. Yes, it would have been of a major benefit to the white people, but that was just a natural outcome like building a park for kids results in giving birds healthy trees to nest in.

Both the Ds and the Rs are being played and that is not about white supremacy. The white supremacists do not back my work, but are working hard for the far left. The far left socialists want back-ground checks on firearms. But, those would mean very little without the National ID that makes tracking and surveillance of all the government's subjects possible. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are making it easier for the government to control them. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are eliminating the Right to Privacy. I've shown to the white supremacists that Donald Trump's nutty wall idea was Bill Clinton's idea BEFORE Trump championed the idea. How did both the Ds and the Rs support the same, exact idea at different times... unless they were being controlled by forces they don't understand?

Some neo-Confederates make some lip service argument about illegitimacy regarding the 14th Amendment only to jump onto Trump's MAGA bandwagon and lobby for National ID and enforcing the draconian E Verify laws, proving they don't understand a damn thing about the arguments they make except to the extent that it tells them what they want to hear about a very narrow issue. At the end of the day, they end up helping the far left realize their goals and objectives while doing damage to the work I began many decades ago. IM2 doesn't have a freaking clue as to what he's talking about and now comes his opportunity to research the subject and find out he's been played by world powers operating in a capacity he cannot fathom. Will he do the right thing OR continue to misrepresent me?

Do you believe the income tax is unconstitutional? Ever see freedom to fascism?

I have referred many a person to that documentary. I worked with people like Tupper Saussy, Robert Clarkson, and Irwin Schiff back in the good old days, learning what worked and what didn't by reading their case files and what the courts were saying. That is how I learned about SSN based ID, adhesion contracts, and how the government used the race issue to destroy the concept of unalienable Rights. Still, with the facts on the table the Ds and the Rs allow themselves to be played and racial extremists are so wrapped up in their cause that they can't see the forest for the trees. The people like IM2 are claiming that it's about white supremacy while the white supremacists uphold the 14th Amendment and deny unalienable Rights because they live under a delusion that the immigration laws only allow "legal" Americans any rights (sic.) NEITHER the Ds nor the Rs; black racist or white racist sees any benefit of Rights that are above the reach of government - so they are all equally bound by the slave state they vote for.

You keep calling blacks racist and what is this based on?

You cannot deny unalienable rights if they are god given. You have declared America was made for whites and the 14th amendment which gave us citizenship was illegally ratified. But you don't claim anything about the 1790 Naturalization Act except that it's proof America is for whites. You do not see Judge Taneys decision are the usurpation of our unalienable rights as blacks. Instead it was another justification of America is for whites. So your belief in white supremacy is evident.

Citizenship is not an unalienable Rights. I've been pretty well consistent in my posts, opposing all this B.S. that you need to be an American citizen in order for unalienable Rights to apply. As far as I'm concerned:

* If you can find a job with a willing employer, you've got a job - If, OTOH, you need the government to force a private employer to hire you or guarantee you a job, then that is wholly unconstitutional

* If a church wants to be all white or all black, or rainbow, that is up to them

* Buying, selling, renting and otherwise doing business should be voluntary transactions and the government should NEVER be involved

The American people didn't change the Constitution so as make unalienable Rights available to all of us. They took them away. As I see it, your primary disconnect is not understanding that you do not have a legal right of any kind to force your way into the body politic. You've managed to do it, but the manner you've done it in makes both you and I slaves. Again, unalienable Rights do not guarantee you will become a part of the body politic. OTOH, laws that prevent you from engaging in the free market and exercising unalienable Rights are equally deplorable.

 

[sealybobo]

... while some whites in America are racist ...

Like YOU, hypocrite. Like far too many democrat hypocrites like YOU.

Nope not like me....

Exactly like you. YOU have posted racist bullshit on this very thread, hypocrite.

I know I have. I admit it. I apologize and I’m open to acknowledging how this country treats blacks like 2Nd class citizens.

are you?

 

[sealybobo]

...You call people an idiot, ...

Not everyone, just the idiots like those who think that they - or the person they are pissing at - represent an entire 'race' of people. Any productive discussion has to at least recognize the absurd illogic of such thinking.

Did you say something? Nobody on this thread has claimed to represent either race to the best of my knowledge and belief. IM2 THINKS he speaks for the entire black community, but, only those with an IQ lower than their shoe size buys into his extremist B.S.

Actually I don't but I do speak to how blacks see things better than you do. Now charlie chumplock, provide an example of my black extremism. Because you're the one pushing a well known white supremacist belief about the 14th amendment.

I responded to this once before and then saw unkotare's reply to you wherein that POS wants to say negative things to me. Soooo... IN SEVEN PARAGRAPHS I AM GOING TO PROVE, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THAT IM2 IS AN UNEDUCATED IDIOT AND A BLACK SUPREMACIST OR A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Ever since I came onto USM, IM2 has maintained that white supremacists embrace my work on the 14th Amendment. Occasionally, a white supremacist will come along, realize that my work would lead to a much better political outcome for white people; however, my work on the 14th Amendment shows that the illegally ratified 14th Amendment did not give blacks any "rights," but rather repealed the Bill of Rights and it had little to do with race except that the United States Supreme Court did, in fact, rule prior to the 14th Amendment that the Constitution was not intended to cover the black race. What Roger Taney wrote in the Dred Scott v. Sanford ruling is fact and I cannot change that in order to make blacks people feel good about themselves. As an example that this issue of the 14th Amendment being illegally ratified, I direct your attention to the following post on this board:

If the Bill of Rights makes liberalism illegal how does liberalism survive? See my post # 38

Approximately FOUR DECADES ago, while in school, a law professor kept telling us about the "facts" of a case. My law professor found a "right to smoke cigarettes" and I challenged it. Where were the facts? It resulted in a disciplinary action that almost got me thrown out of school. Moral: Don't challenge law school presuppositions. So, it motivated me to study the subject of Rights. I uncovered the fact that whether by accident or design the government was attacking our unalienable Rights and by the passage of the illegally ratified 14th Amendment, they nullified any God given Rights we could claim as the above link will explain. The 14th Amendment DID create TWO distinct categories of citizenship: a Preamble Citizen and a 14th Amendment citizen. The man who pioneered that legal argument was Howard Freeman and here is his introduction to the subject so that you can see THAT was not predicated on any "racist" argument: The Two United States and the Law

My work was an extension of the research Freeman had begun. I discovered that through the use of the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment we had been reduced to absolute slavery. We no longer had unalienable Rights, but mere privileges with ownership papers making every person in America a slave. Oh, we have the illusion of Freedom and Liberty, but at the end of the day, we are owned and controlled by puppet masters. Those puppet masters control the Ds and the Rs so that it ends up being one hand washing the other.

IF white supremacists embraced my work, then have IM2 explain to you how the anti - immigrant Tea Party Republican, United States Congressman James Sensenbrenner, introduced not only the unconstitutional so - called "Patriot Act," but the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify B.S. that mandates all of you subjects to have a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again "Social Security Number" so that you can be tracked 24 / 7 / 365. If my work was about white supremacy, how in the Hell did the white supremacists end up supporting National ID? IM2 wants to credit my work with being part of white supremacy; however, if any of you have the courage to do the research, that is not the case. I've been at war with white supremacists, ESPECIALLY, the dumb asses on the anti - immigrant side who reversed almost 25 years of hard won court victories by imposing the SSN as a unique identifier on the American people. WITHOUT the SSN (which you were not required to have prior to National ID), you did not have to pay the income tax. Neither could the government lay claim to owning you as chattel property. Yes, it would have been of a major benefit to the white people, but that was just a natural outcome like building a park for kids results in giving birds healthy trees to nest in.

Both the Ds and the Rs are being played and that is not about white supremacy. The white supremacists do not back my work, but are working hard for the far left. The far left socialists want back-ground checks on firearms. But, those would mean very little without the National ID that makes tracking and surveillance of all the government's subjects possible. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are making it easier for the government to control them. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are eliminating the Right to Privacy. I've shown to the white supremacists that Donald Trump's nutty wall idea was Bill Clinton's idea BEFORE Trump championed the idea. How did both the Ds and the Rs support the same, exact idea at different times... unless they were being controlled by forces they don't understand?

Some neo-Confederates make some lip service argument about illegitimacy regarding the 14th Amendment only to jump onto Trump's MAGA bandwagon and lobby for National ID and enforcing the draconian E Verify laws, proving they don't understand a damn thing about the arguments they make except to the extent that it tells them what they want to hear about a very narrow issue. At the end of the day, they end up helping the far left realize their goals and objectives while doing damage to the work I began many decades ago. IM2 doesn't have a freaking clue as to what he's talking about and now comes his opportunity to research the subject and find out he's been played by world powers operating in a capacity he cannot fathom. Will he do the right thing OR continue to misrepresent me?

Do you believe the income tax is unconstitutional? Ever see freedom to fascism?

I have referred many a person to that documentary. I worked with people like Tupper Saussy, Robert Clarkson, and Irwin Schiff back in the good old days, learning what worked and what didn't by reading their case files and what the courts were saying. That is how I learned about SSN based ID, adhesion contracts, and how the government used the race issue to destroy the concept of unalienable Rights. Still, with the facts on the table the Ds and the Rs allow themselves to be played and racial extremists are so wrapped up in their cause that they can't see the forest for the trees. The people like IM2 are claiming that it's about white supremacy while the white supremacists uphold the 14th Amendment and deny unalienable Rights because they live under a delusion that the immigration laws only allow "legal" Americans any rights (sic.) NEITHER the Ds nor the Rs; black racist or white racist sees any benefit of Rights that are above the reach of government - so they are all equally bound by the slave state they vote for.

What IM2 should understand is that while some whites in America are racist there are an awful lot of diversity programs and affirmative action programs that white corporate America and white private schools have designed to help minorities. We aren’t all bad.

Even a lot of you White people who don’t believe in affirmative action programs Would happily hire a person of color if they thought thatperson was qualified.

I just want guys like you to acknowledge that bias exists. That would be a step in the right direction

"Bias" is a natural phenomenon. Some people like think chicks; some like 'em thick. If someone prefers to be with white people, I fail to see how it is wrong. If another person wants this diversity B.S. that discriminates against whites, that's their thing and I pass no moral judgment on them. Neither will I allow them to denigrate me over what I prefer or do not prefer. Sometimes you may find yourself accepting what is available to get things done.

Fair enough.

 

[sealybobo]

... I support diversity programs and affirmative action programs. ...

"Support" how, exactly? What form does this "support" take for you, personally?

What are you doing to make a difference?

 

[sealybobo]

... You have to show restraint and can’t say what you really want to say in real life ...

I always say what I really want to say, chickenshit.

You don’t say shit. So you must be simple minded aka slow

 

[sealybobo]

You tell us why it’s not racist that you oppose these programs

May I?

A just society treats everyone the same based on merit

and does not treat people of one race better in order to create a preferred outcome

Yea so we should stop treating whites better. And to speed up fairness corporations are going out of their way to find diverse candidates because up until now it’s been all white men.

Women benefitted most from affirmative action. Was it a mistake to let so many of them into the executive boardrooms?

 

[sealybobo]

With all due respect, I do not think that people should criticize people of the ethnicity under discussion.

I think that people should understand that they have a unique history in our country: slavery, de facto and de jure segregation until the 1960s. Certain cultural aspects have been passed down through their families.

I am not a bleeding heart. I am 83 years old and have had many unpleasant experiences, mostly with their youth. So I am under no illusions. But I think that we should be as respectful to them as possible and at the same time do the best that we can under the circumstances. I believe, for example, that we should support the police (so long as they act in a humane manner), and we should avoid movements such as BLM. I personally am so disappointed that so many Caucasian youths have participated in those marches. I have no doubt that as they age and have more real-life experiences, they will come to rue the day that they gave support to BLM.

We are like the survivors in a lifeboat. We have to get along with one another as best as we can. There is no alternative.

The Left Wing Leaders, Press, Politicians and Pundits exploit Minorities to maintain their power
power = money
A Democrat Politician's worst nightmare is racial harmony

Are you kidding me? The right has convinced poor whites they should vote republican based on wedge issues like racism, god, gays, guns.

If not for these social issues you’d have no reason to vote republican. Unless you are rich?

So you’re the one who’s being conned dummy

 

[sealybobo]

...You really hate liberals. ...

I really have disdain for racists and hypocrites like YOU.

I told you you’re the one person here who I can’t stand and do you care? So I hope I make your blood boil bitch

 

[sealybobo]

...You call people an idiot, ...

Not everyone, just the idiots like those who think that they - or the person they are pissing at - represent an entire 'race' of people. Any productive discussion has to at least recognize the absurd illogic of such thinking.

Did you say something? Nobody on this thread has claimed to represent either race to the best of my knowledge and belief. IM2 THINKS he speaks for the entire black community, but, only those with an IQ lower than their shoe size buys into his extremist B.S.

Actually I don't but I do speak to how blacks see things better than you do. Now charlie chumplock, provide an example of my black extremism. Because you're the one pushing a well known white supremacist belief about the 14th amendment.

I responded to this once before and then saw unkotare's reply to you wherein that POS wants to say negative things to me. Soooo... IN SEVEN PARAGRAPHS I AM GOING TO PROVE, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THAT IM2 IS AN UNEDUCATED IDIOT AND A BLACK SUPREMACIST OR A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

Ever since I came onto USM, IM2 has maintained that white supremacists embrace my work on the 14th Amendment. Occasionally, a white supremacist will come along, realize that my work would lead to a much better political outcome for white people; however, my work on the 14th Amendment shows that the illegally ratified 14th Amendment did not give blacks any "rights," but rather repealed the Bill of Rights and it had little to do with race except that the United States Supreme Court did, in fact, rule prior to the 14th Amendment that the Constitution was not intended to cover the black race. What Roger Taney wrote in the Dred Scott v. Sanford ruling is fact and I cannot change that in order to make blacks people feel good about themselves. As an example that this issue of the 14th Amendment being illegally ratified, I direct your attention to the following post on this board:

If the Bill of Rights makes liberalism illegal how does liberalism survive? See my post # 38

Approximately FOUR DECADES ago, while in school, a law professor kept telling us about the "facts" of a case. My law professor found a "right to smoke cigarettes" and I challenged it. Where were the facts? It resulted in a disciplinary action that almost got me thrown out of school. Moral: Don't challenge law school presuppositions. So, it motivated me to study the subject of Rights. I uncovered the fact that whether by accident or design the government was attacking our unalienable Rights and by the passage of the illegally ratified 14th Amendment, they nullified any God given Rights we could claim as the above link will explain. The 14th Amendment DID create TWO distinct categories of citizenship: a Preamble Citizen and a 14th Amendment citizen. The man who pioneered that legal argument was Howard Freeman and here is his introduction to the subject so that you can see THAT was not predicated on any "racist" argument: The Two United States and the Law

My work was an extension of the research Freeman had begun. I discovered that through the use of the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number," and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment we had been reduced to absolute slavery. We no longer had unalienable Rights, but mere privileges with ownership papers making every person in America a slave. Oh, we have the illusion of Freedom and Liberty, but at the end of the day, we are owned and controlled by puppet masters. Those puppet masters control the Ds and the Rs so that it ends up being one hand washing the other.

IF white supremacists embraced my work, then have IM2 explain to you how the anti - immigrant Tea Party Republican, United States Congressman James Sensenbrenner, introduced not only the unconstitutional so - called "Patriot Act," but the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify B.S. that mandates all of you subjects to have a Socialist Surveillance Number ... there I go again "Social Security Number" so that you can be tracked 24 / 7 / 365. If my work was about white supremacy, how in the Hell did the white supremacists end up supporting National ID? IM2 wants to credit my work with being part of white supremacy; however, if any of you have the courage to do the research, that is not the case. I've been at war with white supremacists, ESPECIALLY, the dumb asses on the anti - immigrant side who reversed almost 25 years of hard won court victories by imposing the SSN as a unique identifier on the American people. WITHOUT the SSN (which you were not required to have prior to National ID), you did not have to pay the income tax. Neither could the government lay claim to owning you as chattel property. Yes, it would have been of a major benefit to the white people, but that was just a natural outcome like building a park for kids results in giving birds healthy trees to nest in.

Both the Ds and the Rs are being played and that is not about white supremacy. The white supremacists do not back my work, but are working hard for the far left. The far left socialists want back-ground checks on firearms. But, those would mean very little without the National ID that makes tracking and surveillance of all the government's subjects possible. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are making it easier for the government to control them. BOTH the Ds and the Rs are eliminating the Right to Privacy. I've shown to the white supremacists that Donald Trump's nutty wall idea was Bill Clinton's idea BEFORE Trump championed the idea. How did both the Ds and the Rs support the same, exact idea at different times... unless they were being controlled by forces they don't understand?

Some neo-Confederates make some lip service argument about illegitimacy regarding the 14th Amendment only to jump onto Trump's MAGA bandwagon and lobby for National ID and enforcing the draconian E Verify laws, proving they don't understand a damn thing about the arguments they make except to the extent that it tells them what they want to hear about a very narrow issue. At the end of the day, they end up helping the far left realize their goals and objectives while doing damage to the work I began many decades ago. IM2 doesn't have a freaking clue as to what he's talking about and now comes his opportunity to research the subject and find out he's been played by world powers operating in a capacity he cannot fathom. Will he do the right thing OR continue to misrepresent me?

Do you believe the income tax is unconstitutional? Ever see freedom to fascism?

I have referred many a person to that documentary. I worked with people like Tupper Saussy, Robert Clarkson, and Irwin Schiff back in the good old days, learning what worked and what didn't by reading their case files and what the courts were saying. That is how I learned about SSN based ID, adhesion contracts, and how the government used the race issue to destroy the concept of unalienable Rights. Still, with the facts on the table the Ds and the Rs allow themselves to be played and racial extremists are so wrapped up in their cause that they can't see the forest for the trees. The people like IM2 are claiming that it's about white supremacy while the white supremacists uphold the 14th Amendment and deny unalienable Rights because they live under a delusion that the immigration laws only allow "legal" Americans any rights (sic.) NEITHER the Ds nor the Rs; black racist or white racist sees any benefit of Rights that are above the reach of government - so they are all equally bound by the slave state they vote for.

You keep calling blacks racist and what is this based on?

You cannot deny unalienable rights if they are god given. You have declared America was made for whites and the 14th amendment which gave us citizenship was illegally ratified. But you don't claim anything about the 1790 Naturalization Act except that it's proof America is for whites. You do not see Judge Taneys decision are the usurpation of our unalienable rights as blacks. Instead it was another justification of America is for whites. So your belief in white supremacy is evident.

Citizenship is not an unalienable Rights. I've been pretty well consistent in my posts, opposing all this B.S. that you need to be an American citizen in order for unalienable Rights to apply. As far as I'm concerned:

* If you can find a job with a willing employer, you've got a job - If, OTOH, you need the government to force a private employer to hire you or guarantee you a job, then that is wholly unconstitutional

* If a church wants to be all white or all black, or rainbow, that is up to them

* Buying, selling, renting and otherwise doing business should be voluntary transactions and the government should NEVER be involved

The American people didn't change the Constitution so as make unalienable Rights available to all of us. They took them away. As I see it, your primary disconnect is not understanding that you do not have a legal right of any kind to force your way into the body politic. You've managed to do it, but the manner you've done it in makes both you and I slaves. Again, unalienable Rights do not guarantee you will become a part of the body politic. OTOH, laws that prevent you from engaging in the free market and exercising unalienable Rights are equally deplorable.

Ok fine but then if a corporation wants to win government contracts they have to prove they are diverse. If they aren’t then they just can’t bid on government jobs.

No opine is forcing your small business to be diverse or affirmative action on you.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

With all due respect, I do not think that people should criticize people of the ethnicity under discussion.

I think that people should understand that they have a unique history in our country: slavery, de facto and de jure segregation until the 1960s. Certain cultural aspects have been passed down through their families.

I am not a bleeding heart. I am 83 years old and have had many unpleasant experiences, mostly with their youth. So I am under no illusions. But I think that we should be as respectful to them as possible and at the same time do the best that we can under the circumstances. I believe, for example, that we should support the police (so long as they act in a humane manner), and we should avoid movements such as BLM. I personally am so disappointed that so many Caucasian youths have participated in those marches. I have no doubt that as they age and have more real-life experiences, they will come to rue the day that they gave support to BLM.

We are like the survivors in a lifeboat. We have to get along with one another as best as we can. There is no alternative.

The Left Wing Leaders, Press, Politicians and Pundits exploit Minorities to maintain their power
power = money
A Democrat Politician's worst nightmare is racial harmony

Are you kidding me? The right has convinced poor whites they should vote republican based on wedge issues like racism, god, gays, guns.

If not for these social issues you’d have no reason to vote republican. Unless you are rich?

So you’re the one who’s being conned dummy

Republican Voters are middle class and upper class voters.
And, the Liberals regularly ridicule poor white people in our Movies and TV shows.
Liberals are not compassionate.
I would not be surprised if they don't vote Democrat.
White Voters have less than a 10% poverty rate, so even if they voted 100% Republican is would only be a small percentage of the GOP voter base.

 

[sealybobo]

With all due respect, I do not think that people should criticize people of the ethnicity under discussion.

I think that people should understand that they have a unique history in our country: slavery, de facto and de jure segregation until the 1960s. Certain cultural aspects have been passed down through their families.

I am not a bleeding heart. I am 83 years old and have had many unpleasant experiences, mostly with their youth. So I am under no illusions. But I think that we should be as respectful to them as possible and at the same time do the best that we can under the circumstances. I believe, for example, that we should support the police (so long as they act in a humane manner), and we should avoid movements such as BLM. I personally am so disappointed that so many Caucasian youths have participated in those marches. I have no doubt that as they age and have more real-life experiences, they will come to rue the day that they gave support to BLM.

We are like the survivors in a lifeboat. We have to get along with one another as best as we can. There is no alternative.

The Left Wing Leaders, Press, Politicians and Pundits exploit Minorities to maintain their power
power = money
A Democrat Politician's worst nightmare is racial harmony

Are you kidding me? The right has convinced poor whites they should vote republican based on wedge issues like racism, god, gays, guns.

If not for these social issues you’d have no reason to vote republican. Unless you are rich?

So you’re the one who’s being conned dummy

Republican Voters are middle class and upper class voters.
And, the Liberals regularly ridicule poor white people in our Movies and TV shows.
Liberals are not compassionate.
I would not be surprised if they don't vote Democrat.
White Voters have less than a 10% poverty rate, so even if they voted 100% Republican is would only be a small percentage of the GOP voter base.

I don’t follow your logic or know if what you’re saying is true.

lots of poor white republicans in kentucky

 

[Mac-7]

corporations are going out of their way to find diverse candidates because up until now it’s been all white men.

Corporations have been practicing reverse descrimination for decades which explains the decline in performance we have seen

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

With all due respect, I do not think that people should criticize people of the ethnicity under discussion.

I think that people should understand that they have a unique history in our country: slavery, de facto and de jure segregation until the 1960s. Certain cultural aspects have been passed down through their families.

I am not a bleeding heart. I am 83 years old and have had many unpleasant experiences, mostly with their youth. So I am under no illusions. But I think that we should be as respectful to them as possible and at the same time do the best that we can under the circumstances. I believe, for example, that we should support the police (so long as they act in a humane manner), and we should avoid movements such as BLM. I personally am so disappointed that so many Caucasian youths have participated in those marches. I have no doubt that as they age and have more real-life experiences, they will come to rue the day that they gave support to BLM.

We are like the survivors in a lifeboat. We have to get along with one another as best as we can. There is no alternative.

The Left Wing Leaders, Press, Politicians and Pundits exploit Minorities to maintain their power
power = money
A Democrat Politician's worst nightmare is racial harmony

Are you kidding me? The right has convinced poor whites they should vote republican based on wedge issues like racism, god, gays, guns.

If not for these social issues you’d have no reason to vote republican. Unless you are rich?

So you’re the one who’s being conned dummy

Republican Voters are middle class and upper class voters.
And, the Liberals regularly ridicule poor white people in our Movies and TV shows.
Liberals are not compassionate.
I would not be surprised if they don't vote Democrat.
White Voters have less than a 10% poverty rate, so even if they voted 100% Republican is would only be a small percentage of the GOP voter base.

I don’t follow your logic or know if what you’re saying is true.

lots of poor white republicans in kentucky

Whites have about a 10% poverty rate and I doubt that the majority of poor White people vote Democrat