My Candidate for President...Scott Walker....let me introduce you....

I admit I like how he backed CITIZENS of his state OVER union thugs.
I respect that.

You mean the Koch Brothers?

Yeah, let's look at that.

I am always amused how conservatives vilify unions.

Let's be honest what happened here. Once upon a time, the private sector had good wages because of unionization or the threat of unionization. The Wealthy paid a healthy share of the taxes, as they should. There were tariffs in place that protected our industries (vital to our national defense and economy) from unfair foreign competition. You had a vibrant middle class, Mom could stay home with the kids while Dad worked, people could enjoy vacations. Republicans and Democrats agreed this was a good thing, and for decades after World War II, we enjoyed prosperity.

Then these idiots went along with the Plutocrat's oky-dokes.

"Give up your unions, and your right to collectively bargain. We’ll recognize you for your hard work and merit. We’ll use nice sounding terms like ‘right to work’ and ‘At Will employment’ to describe this."

"Dooooooy, Oky-doke!" said the middle class.

So they find themselves working harder for less money, and eventually get put out on the street at 50 because the company can always find someone younger who'll work cheaper.


“Give up your Union Medical Plans, and go with these company Medical Plans instead!”


“Dooooy, Oky-doke”


They find themselves paying more every year for plans that cover less and less. HMO stands for Horrible Medical Options. And if they got too sick, they found they were usually the first to be let go during a downsizing.

"Give up your pensions, we'll let you get in on the Wall Street fun with something called a 401K. Then you can borrow against the value of a home you already paid off! Trust us!"

"Dooooy, Oky-Doke"

Now they find themselves with a busted 401K, an underwater mortgage in foreclosure AND no hope of ever actually retiring. Meanwhile the fat cats on Wall Street and the banks got a government bailout they paid for, and paid themselves bonuses out of it.

"Hey, hey, you know, we can get more business opportunities if we sign this free trade bill with third world rat-holes that don't have the safety, environmental and work rules we have."

"Doooooy, Oky-Doke"

And they act all surprise when the manufacturing jobs go to China, and the Customer Service jobs go to India, and when their POS Chinese made computer breaks down, they can call to Pradip… er, “Bobby” about how to fix it, but he doesn't understand English.

"Hey, let's give tax cuts to rich people!"

"Doooy, Oky-Doke!"

Oh, that means we increase taxes on working people. SUCKERS!!!


And of course, if someone might actually figure out that they’ve been had, we can distract them by talking about gay marriage, abortion, guns or some other issue that gets their blood boiling for no good reason.

The ironic thing is that the GOP has engaged in this obscene transfer of wealth, but instead of being angry at the people who perpetrated it, we are angry at the people in the unions who DIDN'T FALL FOR IT.

In short, someone burns down your house, and instead of wanting to punish the arsonist, you want them to burn down your neighbor's house instead.

"DOOOOOY, Oky-doke"

He went after PUBLIC SECTOR unions, which are an actual threat to government, even FDR thought so.

Public sector unions are no such thing, and it's one of the Right's biggest lies that they aren't after private sector unions.

Bullshit. The upcoming multiple disasters to be coming to a large blue city/state near you will give lie to that statement.
 
He went after PUBLIC SECTOR unions, which are an actual threat to government, even FDR thought so.

Did you miss the part where Walker went ahead and signed a right to work law that targeted private sector unions after he promised he wouldn't?

FDR also thought locking up 110,000 Japanese Americans was a nifty idea, Mr. Civil Libertarian.

Public Sector workers need unions for the same reason private sector employees do.

Because asshole will inevitably find their way into Management positions, and they will abuse the hired help given the opportunity.

If unions are so awesome, right to work laws should have no impact.

And Public sector unions are a disaster because there is no limiting control on how much money is given away to the union. In the private sector the unions know they can only push so far before the business becomes unprofitable. With public sector unions the "bosses" depend on the workers to keep them in office, and they both think they can just raid the taxpayer piggy bank whenever they see fit.
 
He went after PUBLIC SECTOR unions, which are an actual threat to government, even FDR thought so.

Did you miss the part where Walker went ahead and signed a right to work law that targeted private sector unions after he promised he wouldn't?

FDR also thought locking up 110,000 Japanese Americans was a nifty idea, Mr. Civil Libertarian.

Public Sector workers need unions for the same reason private sector employees do.

Because asshole will inevitably find their way into Management positions, and they will abuse the hired help given the opportunity.

If unions are so awesome, right to work laws should have no impact.

And Public sector unions are a disaster because there is no limiting control on how much money is given away to the union. In the private sector the unions know they can only push so far before the business becomes unprofitable. With public sector unions the "bosses" depend on the workers to keep them in office, and they both think they can just raid the taxpayer piggy bank whenever they see fit.

That's nonsense. The taxpayers have to fund public sector operations. They get to vote.
 
As a lifelong resident of the state of Wisconsin, he has been successful in sticking it to both private and public sector unions. I will give him credit for that. I voted for him twice. Now that he wants to give public tax dollars to the milwaukee bucks, he has lost my support. Now that he has cut the UW system, he has lost my vote, and alot others. He is a radical in the pockets of the corporatists who want to take it to the working person. Those corporatists could care less about their employees or other working class folks. In a big turnout, he may very well not carry his own state. BTW, he did try really hard to get rid of the open documents laws we have here. Good try though.
 
Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is 'God's Plan' - See more at: Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is God s Plan Right Wing Watch


Not real big on the separation of church and state.......
“My relationship with God drives every major decision in my life,” starts the note, which is clearly designed to appeal to Religious Right voters who make up a major part of the GOP base vote, particularly in the early primary states Iowa and South Carolina.

The letter goes on to talk about Walker’s faith as “the guiding force of my life in both politics and in private” and promotes opposition to reproductive choice and marriage equality. “A lifelong supporter of the pro-life movement, my work defending the unborn goes back to my college days where I was a leader of Marquette Students for Life,” he writes, bragging about signing into law new restrictions on access to abortion and pledging to do the same as president. He calls the Supreme Court’s marriage equality decision a “grave mistake” and calls for a constitutional amendment to overturn it. And he pledges to nominate Supreme Court justices who share his approach to the Constitution. - See more at: Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is God s Plan Right Wing Watch
There's no such thing as "separation of church and state." It is nowhere in any founding document.
 
Nope. He isnt a radical corporate shill. Kasich makes sense. Plus he is educated. I will gladly use medicare if I need it. GLADLY. Why deny your people some help?
 
If unions are so awesome, right to work laws should have no impact.

.

You mean people wouldn't take benefits without paying for them?

Hey, guy, how about just taking whatever business you have, and saying, "Pay me what you think is fair!" Betcha a lot of guys just walk off with your shit.

Same deal with "Right to Work". People would take union wages without paying their dues, until the Union can't really effectively fight for them anymore.

Now, I think there are criticisms that can be made

And Public sector unions are a disaster because there is no limiting control on how much money is given away to the union. In the private sector the unions know they can only push so far before the business becomes unprofitable. With public sector unions the "bosses" depend on the workers to keep them in office, and they both think they can just raid the taxpayer piggy bank whenever they see fit.

Sure there's a limit. It's called "an Election".

What worries you is that the PUblic Service Unions will make the rich pay their fair share to make sure stuff is paid for.

As I said on my longer essay, the thing is, Public Service Unions are not making obscene amounts of money. They are making a fair, living wage. It's what EVERYONE should make. they just have the political power to make that happen.
 
Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is 'God's Plan' - See more at: Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is God s Plan Right Wing Watch


Not real big on the separation of church and state.......
“My relationship with God drives every major decision in my life,” starts the note, which is clearly designed to appeal to Religious Right voters who make up a major part of the GOP base vote, particularly in the early primary states Iowa and South Carolina.

The letter goes on to talk about Walker’s faith as “the guiding force of my life in both politics and in private” and promotes opposition to reproductive choice and marriage equality. “A lifelong supporter of the pro-life movement, my work defending the unborn goes back to my college days where I was a leader of Marquette Students for Life,” he writes, bragging about signing into law new restrictions on access to abortion and pledging to do the same as president. He calls the Supreme Court’s marriage equality decision a “grave mistake” and calls for a constitutional amendment to overturn it. And he pledges to nominate Supreme Court justices who share his approach to the Constitution. - See more at: Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is God s Plan Right Wing Watch
There's no such thing as "separation of church and state." It is nowhere in any founding document.


It is always funny to hear the lefty statists talk about separation of church and state, considering it comes from the one Founder who they hate the most, Jefferson.....and of course it comes from a personal letter, and like you pointed out, nothing from our official founding documents.
 
Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is 'God's Plan' - See more at: Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is God s Plan Right Wing Watch


Not real big on the separation of church and state.......
“My relationship with God drives every major decision in my life,” starts the note, which is clearly designed to appeal to Religious Right voters who make up a major part of the GOP base vote, particularly in the early primary states Iowa and South Carolina.

The letter goes on to talk about Walker’s faith as “the guiding force of my life in both politics and in private” and promotes opposition to reproductive choice and marriage equality. “A lifelong supporter of the pro-life movement, my work defending the unborn goes back to my college days where I was a leader of Marquette Students for Life,” he writes, bragging about signing into law new restrictions on access to abortion and pledging to do the same as president. He calls the Supreme Court’s marriage equality decision a “grave mistake” and calls for a constitutional amendment to overturn it. And he pledges to nominate Supreme Court justices who share his approach to the Constitution. - See more at: Scott Walker Says His Presidential Bid Is God s Plan Right Wing Watch
There's no such thing as "separation of church and state." It is nowhere in any founding document.


It is always funny to hear the lefty statists talk about separation of church and state, considering it comes from the one Founder who they hate the most, Jefferson.....and of course it comes from a personal letter, and like you pointed out, nothing from our official founding documents.


We all know that the words separation of church and state do not appear in the constitution. But maybe you can tell us- if it does not mean that the government may not show favoritism towards a particular religion and allow it to influence law and public policy, what does it mean? Religious freedom is a two way street. You and I cannot have religious freedom unless we are also free of the religious influences of others, and that includes the Imposition of religious values by the hand of government. The founders understood that regardless of their personal beliefs. JFK Understood that. These ass hat Republicans today do not. Consider this:
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The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/12/08/the-christian-right-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-this-day/

The Christian Right has made religious freedom the ideological phalanx of its current campaigns in the culture wars. Religious freedom is now invoked as a way of seeking to derail access to reproductive health services as well as equality for LGBTQ people, most prominently regarding marriage equality.

But history provides little comfort for the theocratic visions of the Christian Right. And that is where our story begins.

For all of the shouting about religious liberty — from the landmark Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case, to the passage of the anti-gay Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Mississippi, and more — there is barely any mention, let alone any observance, of the official national Religious Freedom Day, enacted by Congress in 1992 and recognized every January 16 by an annual presidential proclamation.

The day commemorates the enactment of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786.

The bill, authored by Thomas Jefferson and later pushed through the state legislature by then member of the House of Delegates, James Madison, is regarded as the root of how the framers of the Constitution approached matters of religion and government, and it was as revolutionary as the era in which it was written. It not only disestablished the Anglican Church as the official state church, but it provided that no one can be compelled to attend any religious institution or to underwrite it with taxes; that individuals are free to believe as they will and that this “shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.” As a practical matter, this meant that what we believe or don’t believe is not the concern of government and that we are all equal as citizens. - See more at: The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day Political Research Associates
 
And now he is in the race.......a Republican who knows how to defeat the most rabid of democrats......

Scott Walker Meet the Conservative Everyman - Breitbart

In a Monday campaign video, Walker said he stands out as a conservative leader who won three elections in four years in a blue state without sacrificing his conservative principles.


“In the Republican field, there are some who are good fighters, but they haven’t won those battles,” said Walker. “And there are others who’ve won elections, but haven’t consistently taken on the big fights. We showed you we can do both.”


Walker added, “We did it by leading. Now, we need to do the same thing for America.”


Walker’s humble, middle-class roots have helped propel him to broad support as a sort of “everyman” ordinary Americans can connect with. A passionate communicator, Walker’s record of turning Wisconsin’s $3.6 billion deficit into a surplus—all while cutting taxes by $2 billion—has found favor with fiscal conservatives. Social conservatives, on the other hand, have been encouraged by Walker’s defunding of Planned Parenthood and enactment of pro-life legislation. The combination, say Walker supporters, is precisely what the Republican Party needs to unite the party and defeat Democrats.


“If our conservative reforms can work in a blue state like Wisconsin, they can work anywhere in America,” said Walker on Monday in a statement titled, “Why I’m running for President.”
I believe Impairing in the Obligation of Contracts should have been declared unConstitutional for any State in our Republic.
 
I'm confused

"Take Union pay without paying Union dues"
"The Union could not effectively fight for them any more"

The Union does not pay anyone. The employer does. If the Union is no longer 'effective' then it is probably due to most workers are satisfied with their conditions.

The Union should go dormant when the workers are satisfied with their work conditions. If not, it could run amok.
 

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