Muslims Defend Christians During Attack in Kenya

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    we will see what happens as far as the professors agreeing with Trump on exclusion of muslims 'Progressive' . Go Trump !!
     
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    It's apparent that you fail to appreciate the vast diversity that makes up our population. There are many cultures, value systems and religions that could arguably be said to deviate from traditional American views and practices. If you want to ban Muslims because they are different, because they don't share western values-whatever that is - you also have to consider banning Orthodox Jews, Coptic Christians, Sikhs, Hindu's, Budists and a whole bunch of others, but you wont endorse that so your reasons for wanting to ban Muslims doesn't wash. The fact is that you fear them. Your are xenophobic and provincial . And when you give into fear the terrorists win and when you express this narrow minded bigotry, they grow in numbers.
     
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    yeah , yeah , yeah !! Course I grew up right after IKES operation 'wetback' . I was born into this country in 1949 and the country was fine until the diversity started , probably in the 80s when I took note . I grew up making good money in good jobs and the country was less crowded and my Moms inauthentic chili , spaghetti and Chinese food was fine and dandy . Things were the same or better for my parents that raised 5 kids in good style with 'perks' and with private doctors and only my Dad worked for money . ---------- anyway Go Trump or Cruz 'Progressive !!
     
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    So what?

    Nobody is denying that there are some Muslims, especially outside the Middle East, with humane feelings but this does not change the fact that Islam is a ruthless, murderous religion if followed according to its pure original concepts.


    Any Muslim who does not follow these concepts can not really be considered as a true believer and certainly is not regarded as such by the current extremist in charge who are setting the standard for the whole religion.
     
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    and just a comment , I would ban 'ALL' immigration into the USA no matter race , religion or ethnicity Progressive !!
     
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    Perhaps we have some things in common. I was born in 1947 in New York City to a mother whose family had recently immigrated from Italy and a father who was first generation Irish/ Hungarian. My community was somewhat diverse-at least religiously- I had Jewish and Christian friends- but was not exposed to other cultures until later. The difference between us is that you seem to be hostile towards and even frightened by diversity. I am not afraid and in fact I embrace it, and quite frankly, I don’t understand what your problem is.

    My attitude towards minorities emanates largely from my father’s acceptance of them. One Christmas season, while I was still young, he invited a group of black and Latino coworkers to the house. My mother and others on her Italian side were mortified. They were the racists and the xenophobes but I loved the music and the exposure to this foreign culture. I’m a better person for it.

    Every ethnic, racial and religious group to come to this country that has been built on immigration has been met with bigotry and fear. My mother-who was from Sicily and a little on the dark side- was called the N word. Unfortunately, that did not inspire her to be empathetic towards others .but rather hardened to against them

    Arabs/Muslims are experiencing that now but will one day be accepted as well. The main difference, as I see it, is the terrorist factor that is being used to demonize them, but let’s not forget that the Italians and to a lesser extent the Irish were derided to their criminal enterprises.

    Now, I have a brother-in-law who is Guatemalan, earned his citizenship after coming in undocumented and is a responsible family man and productive member of the community. We are better for the diversity and contributions of people from other countries, cultures and religions. You really need to think more deeply about what it is that you believe in and the implications of what you advocate.
     
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    Nobody is denying that there are some Christians, with humane feelings but this does not change the fact that Christianity is a ruthless, murderous religion if followed according to its man made dogmatic tenants.

    To many Christians, those who do not follow these concepts can not really be considered as a true believer and certainly is not regarded as such by the current extremist in charge who are setting the standard for the whole religion.

    Christianity and Islam alike have been hijacked by extreme and brutal elements but those factions do not represent the true nature of either religion.
     
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    "So what?"
    These Muslims risked their lives while protecting the Christians. That's a pretty big "what"
    Based on the several threads filled with all the hate towards all Muslims, by the many posters who paint all Muslims with a broad brush as radicals who want to kill us all. I guarantee not too many USMB posters would risk their lives to save Muslims. The really disturbing part is, many of these same folks like to portray themselves as Christians.
    Does that answer your "so what?" question?
     
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    ---------------------- I just see no reason to accept diversity if a guy like Trump can stop the muslim diversity . I'm 66 and reduced voting power as 1 consequence of third world imported won't bother me in 10 - 20 years so mostly I'm just thinking of the future where pandering to muslims will be as common place as pandering to 'hispanics' today in the upcoming elections . Implications of what I advocate , I advocate a society of smaller numbers than we now have . I'd like to see 200 million that think of themselves as Americans . Europeans blended into America , muslims won't and don't Progressive !!
     
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    and like I said , ban ALL immigration except allowing 1 or 2 of the best highly regarded people with special skills . America and Americans have no duty to even allow immigration no matter what that lefties poem on the base of the 'copper clad statue' says Progressive !!
     

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