Multiculturalism and Sharia

[Howey]

a. Earlier American presidents, Republicans and Democrats alike, agreed on two basic goals: teach the newcomers English and make them Americans. The clear aim was to strengthen our national identity--to reinforce the unum in e pluribus unum--by assimilating the new arrivals into American civilization.

Since the bolded highlights above are incorrect, I see no need to read the remainder of your fear mongering insanity.

First, we Americans were the first illegal immigrants. If your premise was true, we'd be speaking Navajo or some other native language and following their practices, religious and otherwise.

Secondly, we don't "make them Americans". They do that on their own. As one generation moves on to a newer one and so on, the children of those generations inherit both the traits of American life and language, but can and should retain the core of their own nationality. Just like you and I do ours. Many of our religions and ethnicities still employ practices handed down from their forebears.

What happened when our earliest settlers refused to adopt the ways of the original inhabitants of our land? Those original inhabitants were herded off to far away land or killed in masses. Let's not repeat the mistakes of our forebearers, let's learn from them.

Finally, your definition of e Pluribus Unum is horribly incorrect and more indicative what I taught you above. Educate yourself.

The center section of this shield has six symbols for "the Countries from which these States have been peopled": the rose (England), thistle (Scotland), harp (Ireland), fleur-de-lis (France), lion (Holland), and an imperial two-headed eagle (Germany).
Linked together around the shield are 13 smaller shields, each with the initials for one of the "thirteen independent States of America."...

Thomson explained that the motto E pluribus unum alludes to the union between the states and federal government, as symbolized by the shield on the eagle's breast. The thirteen stripes "represent the several states all joined in one solid compact entire, supporting a Chief, which unites the whole & represents Congress."

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you find multiculturalism and diversity so maddening why don't you go back to Korea,

one of the most proudly racist nations in the history of humankind.

I'm an American, and I love this country.

No you don't. You love a mythical rightwing mutant vision of this country, that, sorry to say, is never going to be.

I asked 'Now....what is someone like you still doing here?'

As you were afraid to answer, let me answer for you....


You love the antecedents of Liberal/Progressive doctrine: bowing down to some totalitarian regime that dictates what each person can do.....after all, 'you didn't build that.'




Olasky's got your number:

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010



So....you leaving for the Crimea after Sunday?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

And what are these Fundamental Changes I hear so much about? Equality for Gays? Health Insurance for everyone? What are these supposedly terrible and fundamental changes I should be afraid of?

First, my guess is that you wouldn't be afraid of fundamental changes. I suspect you'd like them very much.

Regardless, you'd have to ask Obama, or ask the millions who voted for him, or ask yourself, since I suspect you voted for him. He promised a zillion times to "fundamentally change" a country loved by millions. Quite a goal. What I pointed out was that the Right is not interested in "fundamentally changing" their country, regardless of the specifics.

At a macro level, I'd guess the goal is to see America two or three steps to the left of modern day France. I'd also guess that we will in fact be there within 20 or 25 years, so just be patient.

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I see, so is there anyone who can actually name these changes?

you really need to ask.....?

if you can open your eyes you should be able to see where Obama is fundamentally going.....Big Brother Government.....!

this includes your healthcare....your privacy.....your guns.....your education....your media.....your housing......your job......your car.....your food.....your lightbulbs......the dust blowing on your land....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

multiculturalism does not work for splinter religions, and it will not work for the masses of people, until a change occurs in the temperament of humans. Humans tend to socialize and hang with those that agree about how they interpret existence on the Earth...they fight (to the death) at times to assert their position.

Separatism is taught by culture, which means that the friction is already there for social confrontation.

which is why we should ban Islam in this country....it's much more than 'just' a religion...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

First, my guess is that you wouldn't be afraid of fundamental changes. I suspect you'd like them very much.

Regardless, you'd have to ask Obama, or ask the millions who voted for him, or ask yourself, since I suspect you voted for him. He promised a zillion times to "fundamentally change" a country loved by millions. Quite a goal. What I pointed out was that the Right is not interested in "fundamentally changing" their country, regardless of the specifics.

At a macro level, I'd guess the goal is to see America two or three steps to the left of modern day France. I'd also guess that we will in fact be there within 20 or 25 years, so just be patient.

.

I see, so is there anyone who can actually name these changes?

you really need to ask.....?

if you can open your eyes you should be able to see where Obama is fundamentally going.....Big Brother Government.....!

this includes your healthcare....your privacy.....your guns.....your education....your media.....your housing......your job......your car.....your food.....your lightbulbs......the dust blowing on your land....

Yes, I really need to ask because it seems no one can actually answer?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

multiculturalism does not work for splinter religions, and it will not work for the masses of people, until a change occurs in the temperament of humans. Humans tend to socialize and hang with those that agree about how they interpret existence on the Earth...they fight (to the death) at times to assert their position.

Separatism is taught by culture, which means that the friction is already there for social confrontation.

which is why we should ban Islam in this country....it's much more than 'just' a religion...

We don't ban politics or religion here, nor should we.

 

[Moonglow]

multiculturalism does not work for splinter religions, and it will not work for the masses of people, until a change occurs in the temperament of humans. Humans tend to socialize and hang with those that agree about how they interpret existence on the Earth...they fight (to the death) at times to assert their position.

Separatism is taught by culture, which means that the friction is already there for social confrontation.

which is why we should ban Islam in this country....it's much more than 'just' a religion...

Christianity does it also, as does Judaism. We should ban these religions also??

You don't need a religion to have a relationship with God.....

 

[HUGGY]

It probably isn't fair to generalize but... There are a lot of Koreans living up here in the Pacific NW and if they and the Koreans in Asia that we can see from afar are any indication of what DNA courses through PC's veins it is a high probability that she is a gone wackadoodle like the rest.

Why do ya spoz the N Koreans put up with their government?

Why are Koreans in general the most angry mofos on the planet?

I have witnessed several Korean women "going off" and believe me it isn't a pretty sight.

I have witnessed several Korean men "going off".

There is just something missing in their wiring.

Koreans function best apparently when they are told what to think and how to act.

When they latch on to a leader or ideology they are way past devout. No christian like a Korean christian.

I know this all sounds rascist and everything but if you are a caucasian and haven't been around "them" you have no clue how robotic they can be...that's the ticket..."angry robots"..

If PC whats society to be a certain way ..I suggest we(everyone that is not Korean) walk...no run...in the opposite direction.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

I see, so is there anyone who can actually name these changes?

you really need to ask.....?

if you can open your eyes you should be able to see where Obama is fundamentally going.....Big Brother Government.....!

this includes your healthcare....your privacy.....your guns.....your education....your media.....your housing......your job......your car.....your food.....your lightbulbs......the dust blowing on your land....

Yes, I really need to ask because it seems no one can actually answer?

i just did.....long night....?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

multiculturalism does not work for splinter religions, and it will not work for the masses of people, until a change occurs in the temperament of humans. Humans tend to socialize and hang with those that agree about how they interpret existence on the Earth...they fight (to the death) at times to assert their position.

Separatism is taught by culture, which means that the friction is already there for social confrontation.

which is why we should ban Islam in this country....it's much more than 'just' a religion...

Christianity does it also, as does Judaism. We should ban these religions also??

You don't need a religion to have a relationship with God.....

bullshit...

Christianity had a major hand in the founding of this country......its values are inherent in the Constitution.....

Islam is the sworn ENEMY of Christianity....and therefore of American values as well....

 

[Moonglow]

Reagan supported Brady Bill, Reagan signed into law that allows anyone to get care at a hospital, NSA spying occurred during Bush also, the media does not belong to anyone but the owners, housing loans law changes amount to nothing more than allowing only the financial institute to discuss the loan and not the real estate agent...people were put on part time work before the ACA, it was called a great recession. Corporate millionaires sold out employees by dumping them off their insurance and blame the govt.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

It probably isn't fair to generalize but... There are a lot of Koreans living up here in the Pacific NW and if they and the Koreans in Asia that we can see from afar are any indication of what DNA courses through PC's veins it is a high probability that she is a gone wackadoodle like the rest.

Why do ya spoz the N Koreans put up with their government?

Why are Koreans in general the most angry mofos on the planet?

I have witnessed several Korean women "going off" and believe me it isn't a pretty sight.

I have witnessed several Korean men "going off".

There is just something missing in their wiring.

Koreans function best apparently when they are told what to think and how to act.

When they latch on to a leader or ideology they are way past devout. No christian like a Korean christian.

I know this all sounds rascist and everything but if you are a caucasian and haven't been around "them" you have no clue how robotic they can be...that's the ticket..."angry robots"..

If PC whats society to be a certain way ..I suggest we(everyone that is not Korean) walk...no run...in the opposite direction.

people already do.....that garlic breath is awful......

 

[Moonglow]

which is why we should ban Islam in this country....it's much more than 'just' a religion...

Christianity does it also, as does Judaism. We should ban these religions also??

You don't need a religion to have a relationship with God.....

bullshit...

Christianity had a major hand in the founding of this country......its values are inherent in the Constitution.....

Islam is the sworn ENEMY of Christianity....and therefore of American values as well....

The values of killing the natives to take their land?
Christian values of enslavement of Africans into bondage?
The Christian values of killing to get your way about your form of govt.?

See your that little obedient slave. taught to think that christianity is a boon to a society when in history it was inhuman to humans..

 

[KNB]

Christianity did not have any role in the foundation of the US Constitution.

When did Jesus advocate slavery?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

which is why we should ban Islam in this country....it's much more than 'just' a religion...

Christianity does it also, as does Judaism. We should ban these religions also??

You don't need a religion to have a relationship with God.....

bullshit...

Christianity had a major hand in the founding of this country......its values are inherent in the Constitution.....

Islam is the sworn ENEMY of Christianity....and therefore of American values as well....

Christianity had very little to do, essentially nothing, with founding this nation, there's no religious freedom in Christianity and no one gets to vote on laws or leaders, and both Islam and Christianity have the same goal, which is to make everyone a believer.

The key difference is Christianity easily allows for a secular government because it believes its Kingdom to be elsewhere. Islam believes the Kingdom to be here but tolerates a secular government so long as it supports and does not harm the faith. Islam is much more integrated when it comes to Church and State but when it is ignored as readily as Christianity is here by the Christians, it will happily go about the business of the real American religion, Capitalism.

 

[Foxfyre]

What is 'the left?"

In a nutshell it include all who wholly or in part represent:

1. Those who deny and reject most of the principles upon which the Founders established the Constitution and a new nation, and justify that rejection because all modern concepts or values were not included. To them the Constitution is valid only when it supports what they want to support.

2. Those with a Marxist mentality--the belief that nobody should really own or control property but that it all belongs to all to be divided according to the needs of each.

3. Those who would force one group/demographic to give up their cherished values and principles in favor of 'more noble' concepts, with the Left of course dictating to the whole what those 'more noble' concepts will be.

4. Those who see motive as more important than conduct or consequences.

5. Those who look to government as the enabler, protector, and benefactor of all society and all that should be.

6. Those who see America as inferior to other nations that they think have better values, attitudes, and lifestyles.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Christianity does it also, as does Judaism. We should ban these religions also??

You don't need a religion to have a relationship with God.....

bullshit...

Christianity had a major hand in the founding of this country......its values are inherent in the Constitution.....

Islam is the sworn ENEMY of Christianity....and therefore of American values as well....

The values of killing the natives to take their land?
Christian values of enslavement of Africans into bondage?
The Christian values of killing to get your way about your form of govt.?

See your that little obedient slave. taught to think that christianity is a boon to a society when in history it was inhuman to humans..

and you think NON-Christians weren't inhuman to inhumans..?
have you noticed how many tens of millions the NON-Christians killed just the last century....?

society has grown and overcome many of its past mistakes.....why make them all over again.....?

 

[Moonglow]

6. Those who see America as inferior to other nations that they think have better values, attitudes, and lifestyles.

So that is why conservatives always side with Pootin'!

 

[Moonglow]

bullshit...

Christianity had a major hand in the founding of this country......its values are inherent in the Constitution.....

Islam is the sworn ENEMY of Christianity....and therefore of American values as well....

The values of killing the natives to take their land?
Christian values of enslavement of Africans into bondage?
The Christian values of killing to get your way about your form of govt.?

See your that little obedient slave. taught to think that christianity is a boon to a society when in history it was inhuman to humans..

and you think NON-Christians weren't inhuman to inhumans..?
have you noticed how many tens of millions the NON-Christians killed just the last century....?

society has grown and overcome many of its past mistakes.....why make them all over again.....?

all humans are like that because their religion does not change them, it is a mask of acceptance in a society .

 

[Foxfyre]

And on the English as the official language of the land issue:

. . . .Why didn't the founders make English the official language? It simply may not have occurred to them. This is not as far-fetched as it may sound. It was not until near the end of the Constitutional Convention that someone suggested something as essential as a Bill of Rights, and the Convention decided against that proposal as unnecessary.

All fifty-five delegates to the Constitutional Convention spoke English. They took it for granted English was the language of this country. Since the overwhelming majority of the American population spoke English, the founders may not have thought it necessary to declare in law what existed in fact.

Those who say the founders favored a multilingual government for the United States point to documents published in French and German during the American Revolution. But the fact remains that after the Constitution of 1789 created our present form of government, there is not a single example of Congress approving multilingual publications during the time of the founders.

Just six years after the Constitution took effect, Congress deliberately rejected a request to publish copies of federal laws in German. (From this incident arose the myth that, by one vote, German failed to become our national language.) Two years later, Congress rejected a similar request. The debates cited the cost of printing in multiple languages and the confusion that might result from problems in translation–concerns as valid today as two hundred years ago.

In 1811, President James Madison signed the Louisiana Enabling Act, establishing the conditions under which Louisiana could become a state. It required the laws, records, and written proceedings of the new state to be in English. . . .
What about the Founding Fathers?